The Designated Player - MLS needs more
Not just because stars sell (see the 80s/90s for NBA, 90s for MLB), not just to improve overall quality, but the fact is that there are Europeans that want to player soccer in America, to live here. To enjoy the USA, but not quite enough to take massive paycuts, only small ones.
I'm not crazy. Ljungberg confirmed today.
I think what they’re trying to do is make it more appealing for the big players to come and build interest and get the game going. For me, when Beckham came it showed that M.L.S. is serious about to building properly with good players. I think they are sincere in what they were doing but they need to be doing it more in the coming years. People from back home are calling loads of time, asking how it is and about the prospects of playing here. Yes, they have this designated player thing, but one of the things I can’t understand is why all the teams don’t have one.
Of course, I can’t speak for those teams, but here in Seattle it has worked really, really well. But at the end of the day it is up to the owners and what they want to do. I know it is a way different system than in Europe because here the league owns everything.
Added emphasis is my own.
The good news is that during the All-Star Game lead-up the Board of Governors met and discussed the DP and how to get more of them. There are many ways that they could reduces the risks, and honestly, any of them would be good for the league.
Any that reduce the financial hit for the Sounders are good for Sounders, and if they get crazy and either add another slot, or just encourage teams unwilling to have them to deal them that's better for the league "haves" as well.
The DP is part of what makes this MLS 3.0, and the future is only getting better.
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What happens when clubs get gutted by signing DP’s that get hurt and then eventually decide they don’t want to play here. Case in Point Gallardo at DCU last season? Total bust and it didn’t leave much room for improvement in the summer transfer window. While clubs like Columbus and Seattle have reaped the benefits other clubs have gotten screwed.
by dadryan on Jul 29, 2009 7:50 PM PDT reply actions
dadryan, the second link discusses some of the concepts that the Board of Governors are likely discussing. All ideas put forward are to reduce the risk and cap hit of the DP.
But any player can get injured or decide they don’t like the league. Being a DP doesn’t guaruntee anything.
by Dave Clark on Jul 29, 2009 9:05 PM PDT reply actions
It seems to me like having a second DP could help mitigate Gallardo problems by at least giving the team a second chance at getting a success.
That being said, there’s no rule in the world that will keep people from making stupid signings.
by sammysounder on Jul 29, 2009 11:52 PM PDT reply actions
I would love to see both a higher cap and a second DP. I am a fan of salary caps, but the MLS has a rediculously low cap. The owners have been comfortable with the status quo for too long. If the cap was raised, maybe it would force some owners to really market their product like Toronto and Seattle have done.
Just reading the comments from other teams bloggers, the Seattle management is light years ahead of some teams as far as how the business end is run.
Same thing goes with DP players. We don’t want the same situation that lead to the ruin of the NASL, but there has to be a middle ground somewhere.
by Coug1990 on Jul 30, 2009 10:25 AM PDT reply actions
I would love to see all teams allowed three DP’s, with a cap hit of 100,000 or so. Teams don’t have to use all three. So it wouldn’t ruin teams that can’t afford. Just because a team like Seattle will most likely use all three, that doesn’t garantee they won’t get hurt or leave. Teams still would have to make prudent decisions. Allowing three would also, open up the possibilities of smaller clubs signing guys in the 5-800,000 area, injecting not only aging superstars, but quality that is better than the current middle to higher end player in the MLS. Right now teams have one chance to make a splash. Opening up more slots allows for more flexability on who to bring in.
by TL on Jul 30, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions
As an aside, I think it’s kind of funny to hear Ljungberg talk about how the DP thing has worked so well in Seattle. It true that is has, but the “I’m so awesome” aspect of it is a little funny, especially since Ljungberg is not at all a conceited guy.
Anyway, as we all know, the twin concerns are financial stability and parity. In a completely unregulated league, teams that are taking money in hand over fist (Seattle, Toronto, … ?) could become neo-Cosmos and drive the league to extinction by forcing the rest of the teams to either spend more money than they have or face guaranteed defeat on the field as they face super-squads packed full of superior talent.
I think a combination of three things would do the job: raising the cap, a slight increase in roster size, and a luxury tax. First, because of the awesomeness of Adrian Hanauer, we’re getting the talents of Jhon Kennedy Hurtado for a ridiculously low price, but given that he’s proving himself to be a star in this league, we can’t expect to keep paying him fast food wages and keep him around, especially now that he has a new baby. At some point, he’s got to do what’s right for his family and that means earning as much as he can in the short time frame of most athletic careers. An increased salary cap would allow us to increase pay overall, and keep JKH and players like him around longer. Second, a modest increase in roster size will allow teams competing in multiple competitions to field a competitve squad for every match. I’m not talking that much of an increase, maybe to a total of 30 players overall. Third, a luxury tax that would force a team exceeding the cap would allow the league to subsidize the markets that aren’t good earners, but still allow ambitious, well-earning teams to build good squads. Parity will suffer somewhat, but I don’t think it’s a horrible thing to have an elite group separate itself a little bit from the crowd. Since MLS is a league with playoffs, the elite aren’t necessarily just passing the championship back and forth among one another. They’ll be in the playoffs consistently, but playoffs being playoffs, a team outside the elite can have a good run and win a championship.
by CarlosT on Jul 30, 2009 11:56 AM PDT reply actions
I’m huge on the luxury tax concept.
As for rosters, I think 24 Senior roster slots and an “Academy/Reserve” team of 15 that are U-23s (this would mean they could play in ProPDL), and treated as developmental players are now would be ideal, but there are teams that don’t fly their injured players out for matches in order to save costs. So I don’t think the rosters can expand much yet.
And yes, Playoffs do help clubs that aren’t in the haves.
by Dave Clark on Jul 30, 2009 7:29 PM PDT reply actions
Both you and CarlosT make good points. There is that old saying that you have to “Spend money to make money.” MLS does need to invest money into a development program, as in the long run it saves money.
Dave, you know this from baseball, you can’t constantly go out and sign free agents, as it can get expensive.
I do like the luxury tax concept and I like being able to go over the cap (within reason) to try to keep your own free agents, like basketball does.
Anyway, keep up the outstanding work. Thanks
by Coug1990 on Jul 31, 2009 12:17 PM PDT reply actions
Dave, I think the luxury tax could fund the roster expansion. So, if the Seattles fo the league are putting money in by building a more expensive roster, then the Dallases of the league would be able to use that money to fill out their rosters. Seattle and teams like it would still be at a competitive advantage, but at least the other teams would have somewhat of a shot.
by CarlosT on Jul 31, 2009 6:39 PM PDT reply actions
Chickens/Eggs really.
At some point the haves are going to have to increase their funding of the nots. I think the luxury tax would be a better way than adding DP slots, or reducing the salary cap impact of te DPs.
by Dave Clark on Jul 31, 2009 6:49 PM PDT reply actions
CarlosT…don’t know where you came up with the luxury tax idea, but I think it is brilliant!
by Casey on Aug 2, 2009 9:09 AM PDT reply actions
I don’t know that CarlosT was reading my thoughts way back but here and here I mentioned the concept.
It would seem that many Sounders fans want model five from that first link, probably because we follow a team of haves.
Model Five: Cash-Rich Single Entity – Remain Single Entity, but inflate the cap significantly and use luxury taxes to balance out the teams with Designated Players
This would actually combine the SPL and NASL models and likely involve greater expansion. While cost-containment would be an option there would also be superclubs that would use their wealth to not only build great teams, but also to help support the lower level clubs. This would be the most difficult situation to create legally, as it would take a rework of the CBA, league rules, and ownership, but would likely result in the most entertaining league play. There would be incentive if this were the style of league to grab expansion sites now while the fee is high, yet affordable to give clubs the monies to establish excellent academies and start the explosion of the cap over a five year stretch. If this worked the league could probably pass the FMF for overall quality.
by Dave Clark on Aug 2, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions

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