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Many will like to look at this match and say the Sounders played better than Chivas and so deserved to win. I'm a results focused guy though, they tend to actually wind up in the standings and the trophies.

Teams either earn results or they don't.

In this case Zach Thorton earned the results. He wasn't brilliant, but he was certainly good. While I said previously that the Sounders would need to challenge him, the tended to kick it right to him. He stretched a few times, but still it was the Chivas keeper that earned those points from yesterday's match.

Guess what? He's currently got the best numbers of any keeper in the league. He is the reason why Chivas with their poor offense is as likely as any club to finish with the Supporters Shield. It may be simplistic, but in this case their keeper is the cause for the results.

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Video "highlights" so you can relive the pain.

Today on MatchFitUSA radio I mentioned that the offense has some significant issues, but the biggest one is the one that readers here are quite familiar.

How does Sigi play all of these offensive threats at once, while getting them to each perform at their peak?

I still think that the 4-1-3-2 with Vagenas as the DM is a start. I also think that Zakuani, Alonso and Ljungberg should be the attacking midfielders with Montero and Jaqua up top. How many corners need to go without a goal until Nate is at least on the pitch to draw the double-team? Once upon a time Sounders scored on nearly 5% of their corner kick opportunities, well over twice the league average.

Now, they are down to 3.3%. With an offense like this, that tends to shoot and get blocked, or just pull a Marshall and run out the endline, it is key for the Corner Kicks to convert at a high rate. Jaqua helps that, even if indirectly. But if they are going to continue to be the most fouled team and to earn the second most corners the set-play issue must be addressed. Still.

Sometimes the blog seems like it is skipping.

Today, we are again with the Freddyain and how that effects the offensive mix, and set-plays. In fact I think those two topics have come up in every loss or draw.

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Lastly, someone once said that the Playoffs are a crap-shoot. Step one is to actually make them though. The first round is a two leg aggregate series. Lower seed hosts the first match. If goals are tied at the end of match two there will be OT and then PKs.

Conference Finals are a one off match hosted by the higher of the two seeds. If a team has to cross conferences they can not host the Conference Final.

The MLS Cup Final is here in Seattle.

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I have decided that we do not have any home field advantage. Teams like to play here because it is loud and fun, and like most Seattle sports fans, we are nice. There is no aggression in our crowd that makes it difficult for opposing teams. I think visitors get amped up to play here. I know, I know, we are a good team at home PPG. I’m just stating what I feel.
However, I found Preki’s (Perki) comments sensible, and realized that maybe a lot of teams do come here looking to draw, which makes it hard to counter, as Sigi said, when they’re not even trying to score.
Seba still can’t finish. His point-blank shot found the only 2-foot-by-6-foot area that could have possibly resulted in a save.
I’ve run out of partial season tickets now. We bought the opener separately. In the games I attended the Sounders won v. NYRB, won v. RSL, drew v. Crew, drew v. DC, drew v. Chicago, drew v. TFC, drew v. Chivas. The last time I personally witnessed a league win was March 28. Thank goodness I went to Portland in July. I will get playoff tickets.
Corners. Blegh.

by Cornchops on Sep 20, 2009 9:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I last saw a home goal on July 11th – and I’ve been to every match. This is simply not accepatable.

I’m wondering if there’s something about the surface they play on that causes them difficulties? I have no other explanation for why they cannot score.

This looks like an average to slightly above average team right now. There are some major weaknesses, primarily in midfield but they also really need a big, mobile forward that can dominate the penalty area. Jacqua is 6-4 but he plays more like 5-4.

Unfortunately, as we all know, the salary cap means that these big crowds will result in more profit for the ownership group but not necessarily any better product on the field. And the playing side needs some improvement.

by Wiggen on Sep 21, 2009 11:36 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It is hard not to be frustrated. It would be one thing if we were being dominated by better sides, but the truth is we continue to play better ball by almost every measure except the one that counts (goals and wins) at home. The team is entertaining but there are some fundamental problems when a team this talented doesn’t score one goal at home for some 400 minutes.

Thanks for keeping us focused on improvement, Dave. It would be easy to just chalk this up to an all world keeper shutting us out (though he was certainly extremely impressive) — but the reality is that this is hardly an isolated incident.

I read the same thing into Preki’s comments, Cornchops. It does seem that part of the home dynamic for the Sounders is that their opponents are largely playing a more defensive, conservative game shooting for a draw. This style frustrates the Rave Green’s strength as counter attackers who jujitsu an overly aggressive opponent. This seems to be part of it — along with the the Freddyain issue, the set play malaise, etc.

What do you make of that, Dave?

by Zach on Sep 21, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Zach, if a team can’t figure out how to run its own offense when the other team becomes a bunker it isn’t a good team. If this is true it means that the Sounders were built from the backline forward, and yet any one looking from outside of Cascadia would see a Sounders team where the stars are on offense.

Sounders did NOT build from the back forward (except for Keller), they built as an offense first. Their issue is really about the lack of an assist guy. Maybe in MLS the “secondary” assist man. Carlos Valderama is the dream. Give me a CAM that can get 15+ assists (primary or secondary) and the Sounders become a perrenial contender.

Combatting a bunker is science, it is about ball movement and communication. It is about putting the opposition on their heels and not allowing them to dictate pace.

by Dave Clark on Sep 21, 2009 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not to sound harsh/rude/mean, but you start your write-up off saying you are a results guy but then proceed to say “it was the Chivas keeper that earned those points from yesterday’s match.” Chivas walked away with the same point (singular) that Seattle walked away with, yet if I had read your opening without having seen the result, I would have guessed that Chivas took 3 points.

by McKenzie Clark on Sep 21, 2009 12:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

McKenzie, to me a nil-nil draw at home are points lost by the home team. In a parity league (like MLS) home field is an advantage, and the Sounders didn’t have that.

The ONLY player that earned points for his club was Thorton.

Seattle left them sitting in the corners.

by sounderatheart on Sep 21, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not having completely atrocious passing would help a lot too. We kept giving the ball away in midfield over and over again, throwing away opportunities to pressure Chivas. I don’t know if I saw a string of three passes all game.

by CarlosT on Sep 21, 2009 6:28 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

right, to get to three passes you actually need four players who can recieve and pass.

Zakuani
Ljungberg
Alonso

For the most of that game.

I really think a 4-5-1 variant is the future. Be it the Dallas system of 4-1-4-1, or the 4-2-3-1 I don’t care. Either can be done with advanced players in the back.

They just need another attacking midfielder.

Neil McCann is out of contract, but can’t be added here until after the Cup Final.

by Dave Clark on Sep 21, 2009 6:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

If the Chivas and Toronto (2nd half) games are any indication of the success of a team trying to phalanx around its goal, the real stat to look at is shots, not goals. Once you’ve put a shot on goal, the defense is irrelevant, it’s the just the GK you’re playing against.
Against Toronto we put 10 shots on goal and against Chivas we had 11 shots (5 on goal). Overall, we average 10.5 (4) … so our opponents’ strategy to play for a draw hasn’t hurt our offensive production (it’s slightly helped in fact).

by Ajas on Sep 21, 2009 6:36 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

BTW, did anyone else notice Zak moving over to a right wing forward position for significant portions of the game? There were several periods where it looked like we were playing 4-3-3.

by Ajas on Sep 21, 2009 6:37 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Ajas, I actually credited Zakuani with a play at RW this time rather than LW. I felt that he spent basically as much time there, but his time there was significant.

by Dave Clark on Sep 21, 2009 6:55 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the reply, Dave. Makes sense to me. Bring on the CAM!

by Zach on Sep 22, 2009 12:54 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

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