US Open Cup Final - filling holes
Hurtado is out due to his Card situation. Now today we find out that Marshall and Graham are out as well.
So the Sounders in their quest for their first Cup in year one MLS have a significant situation. Three of their four CB are out, the central midfield has passing issues and the Interchange is broken. On top of these issues a team that is nominally better than they, and with a more significant history (12 Trophies as an MLS team v 7 trophies as a USL/ALeague team) stands in their way.
The environment will be hostile, of the original clubs DC is probably the best for having supporters and not just fans. Tomorrow at 4:30 PM Pacific Seattle Sounders will do something they have not done before, they will take the pitch with an out of position defender, or a three man back line.
What is the solution?
Yep, that's me suggesting that Zach Scott start at centerback and that both Montero and Jaqua sit.
The issues with the suggestion come in thee parts.
Defense
Leo, Riley and Ianni are all obvious. The only discussion is about Scott v Wahl. Based on Scott's performance against Barcelona, his +/- per 90 and his history with the Open Cup the weight has to be on his capable shoulders. Since Scott's defense is based on positioning and attitude more than footspeed he should be a solid fill-in CB. His performance in the early season when healthy earned him a Plus/Minus per 90 of 0.91. The highest of any player on the squad.
Midfield
This is where people will likely call me crazy, but after seeing Alonso in strong attacking role for those last 30 minutes it would makes sense to get him involved again. He also knows DC better than most players on this team from his performance at RFK in the Open Cup Final last year. The only question was hot to keep he and Evans on the pitch but in Central Midfield roles. For me that means a 4-3-3 (in the 4-1-2-3 mode).
Peter Vagenas is the only one to slot in that defensive role. With two solid tactical outlets forward and two wide he shouldn't have that pass-back tendencies that the 'net have labeled him, but more crucial is that he is a better defensive mid than King.
Attack
If the Interchange doesn't work, if the Freddyain can't play centrally at the same time, if Sebastien Le Toux is one of the best active players in the US Open Cup the real issue is how to play the maximum talent possible to win this one match. This isn't a change for the future, but for now.
Zakuani needs to stay in for the offensive speed and his knowledge of a three man front. Ljungberg needs to be central but as a forward because in his best matches and best efforts have been in that role. As he would play flexible in that free ranging spot it is even better considering that he has rest for the next two full weeks.
Radical? Yes.
Possible? Maybe.
DC United will be in a 3-5-2. This alone would test Sounders FC, but with the speed of the Rave Green wingbacks they should be able to handle the wide play of United. The real key is controlling the center, something that Seattle does better with Alonso and Evans side by side. With Vagenas the next most tactically sound player also in a central role United's options would be rather clogged.
Offensively Sounders would have a 3 v 3 opportunity. Two fast players, two technically skilled players, two players with great work rate. Sure, each of Zakuani, Le Toux and Ljungberg lack in one of those attributes they would still be able to test United in ways that most teams couldn't.
Honestly, surprise is a part of it. It would be a departure, and risk. I would do it.
Notes
The team flew a charter and ALL of their players. Not just the 18. This is unique in MLS, but expected a bit in a Cup Final. They can only take one more charter this season. Sounders will be flying into Boeing Field early Thursday morning (2A-3A) if all works as it should.
I will be watching at Fado. Because they are close to work, but also because they sent Steve Clare to the Final.
The 4-3-3 as outlined v a 4-1-3-2 totals 0.99 more +/- per 90. 5.77 to 4.78. Seriously, the offense and defense should be better.
Seattle has four healthy players with Cup Final experience. Alonso, Riley with one. Jaqua with two. Vagenas with four.
Only four Cup Finals have had more than 10,000 in attendance. The top number was 19,164 back in 2000.
Bonus points to whoever finds the date I put together that lineup by the way.
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While I don’t think we’d see your lineup, it is an interesting one. I think Scott would be serviceable and probably our best choice, but I think to put too much weight on his +/- is sketchy since he played in our early wins and then dropped out as we began trending toward inconsistency.
Does Alonso count as an international for USOC? If so, it looks like we’d have no Montero and no Nyassi on the bench. Is that right by your reckoning? What does your bench look like?
8/30/09?
by Cornchops on Sep 1, 2009 9:51 PM PDT reply actions
Who do you have starting in goal? :)
As long as Ljungberg is not playing wing mid, I love it!
by Peter on Sep 1, 2009 10:16 PM PDT reply actions
Cornchops, yes all of Scott’s play was during that initial run when we all hoped for the best. While he wasn’t likely the cause, he was possibly one of the causes. But without three other CBs who else could be paired with Ianni? This wasn’t an idea built out of the numbers, but that corresponds with them.
Honestly any three of the five forwards could start in a 4-3-3. But each should only focus on their one role.
Alsono does not count as an international.
For this match I have the following internationals – Ljungberg, Le Toux, Leo, Zakuani and Montero (on bench).
The bench would be
Montero
Jaqua
Eylander
King
Wahl
Levesque
Sturgis
And yes, Cornchops, the 30th was when I thought this crazy thing up.
by sounderatheart on Sep 2, 2009 7:23 AM PDT reply actions
I agree on the centerback pairing. Scott is the obvious choice. Whoever we have back there this will be their first real in game experience together.
Your midfield setup is interesting. I had never really thought of Alonso/Evans both moving forward with Pete behind them. My only fear is that we’d end up with three holding in the midfield and we have three forwards either standing around getting no service or dropping way back to find the ball and we have 11 in our own half and look like the Galaxy.
by foreleft on Sep 2, 2009 8:29 AM PDT reply actions
I know MLS limits teams to two charters a year, but that shouldn’t apply to the Cup final, right? This is a non-league match.
by Michael on Sep 2, 2009 9:16 AM PDT reply actions
Michael, while your statement makes logical sense. I only know what I know on this subject. This is one of the two charters.
Foreleft, I would love for Sounders FC to look like the Galaxy of the last ten matches.
by sounderatheart on Sep 2, 2009 9:47 AM PDT reply actions
As far as cup experience, Freddie L. has played in FA Cup finals and Keller has a couple of League Cup finals (one win) from his days at Leicester City. At least one of them (guess?) should be a cool head in a big event.
by Alan Hudson on Sep 2, 2009 12:43 PM PDT reply actions
If we are to believe what they told us about the formation before the match, Ljungberg was right mid. Game time he played in the middle (of course), but (and a big BUT) LeToux moved out to right mid, we effectively played a 4-4-1-1 (both Ljungberg and Montero in the middle) and it worked great! US Open Cup Champs!!!
by Peter on Sep 2, 2009 6:59 PM PDT reply actions
Peter, I’m going to rewatch before I give full thoughts on formations etc.
I felt like it was a 4-3-3, but I was looking too hard. Let’s see what I see tomorrow. When I classify the role of a player I always do it after watching the match twice, and base it on where they spend most of their time.
Starting formation isn’t as important as how the team plays.
by Dave Clark on Sep 2, 2009 7:07 PM PDT reply actions

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