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MLS/MLSPU Get the Damn CBA DONE!

Sure, I may be sounding like a broken record, but let's look at a few stories that are out there right now, and then think about why MLS is not able to take advantage of the situation.

Landon Donovan is likely to loan out to Everton.  That's great news, but for many US players things are actually kind of ugly over there in Europe.  They just aren't playing.  If MLS and the MLSPU got their act together had some minor compromises and offered American talent as much as they do English, Swedish, Mexican and Argentine talent the league would suddenly get much better.

How much better? Take a look at who is available.

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Freddy Adu I just talked about yesterday.  Was he a good MLS player? Yes. Was he overpaid? Yes. Would he be a starter in MLS? Yes.  He had 13 goals in his 98 matches between ages 15-18 in MLS. Yeah, he'd be good here, if he came back.

But let's not limit the dream to the former US MNT savior.

Eddie Johnson is available from Fulham. Sure he doesn't play much there, sure he's been loaned down while there. But if a CBA was around that offered him close to the same money, his 41 goals in 127 matches might be back. Maybe it isn't all about money, but he doesn't really play. And he can't make the World Cup roster until he does.

Portsmouth and Crystal Palace are both about to fall apart. Portsmouth is on their second rich Arab in 6 months and still can't pay their bills. CP hasn't paid their players in a few weeks.  Both of them have talent at an MLS level (or much better), but no CBA means that they won't be coming here.

DaMarcus Beasley looks to head away from the place he doesn't play as well.  Maybe he wouldn't come back to MLS, but you know what, no CBA means no damn chance.

Lee Nguyen is available on a Free, and looking for a club. But again, no agreement, no dice. He spent some time training with Dallas meaning the chances are good that he would be in MLS if he could, but there's that little CBA thing in the way.

The list of Americans that are just collecting paychecks and only training in Europe is fairly long. But they get paid for doing it. One could argue that they aren't players right now, just practicers. And the lack of a CBA is part of the reason why. Getting the fringe US MNT talents back is vital to our nation's future, and the future of MLS.

Why?

Go read the DMB link again.  Teams (or the league in MLS case) gets real cash money for players that participate in the World Cup. In Scotland's case it will mean that several teams will make payroll in a year where they were likely to not do so. In MLS case, it would mean that they could further afford to expand the Salary Cap and the quality of play in our home nation.

Heck, if MLS had a deal done they could even pick up Reserve depth from all the players getting cut due to the USL/NASL disaster.

Get the Damn CBA Done. Our Players need to Play.

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The leagues long term interests are better served if the players win

But will the owners be willing to make the short term concessions? The thing is some teams would also benefit much more than others from a less restrictive CBA. Will the league be willing to hurt parity even if its better for the league in the long run?

by CarlosT on Dec 9, 2009 9:42 PM PST reply actions  

Great points all. I wonder if the players have considered what higher salary’s would really mean to them. Sure some of them would see a boost in wages, but a lot of them will be out of a job and better players will be brought in as their replacements. Hopefully the players are also working on convincing ownership that a reserve league of some sort needs to be brought back as well so they still have a place to play.

by DarthGreedo on Dec 10, 2009 9:23 AM PST reply actions  

absolutely agree

Adu, Beasley, and Johnson all just need to come back home and find MLS clubs, as i see it its the only way to resurrect their careers. Having said that, it can’t hurt them to try to find playing time this winter — although its a tricky situation with MLS clubs starting to train again in February…

...that's MISTER Keller to you!!!

by malcontentjake on Dec 10, 2009 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

West Ham joins Palace and Portsmouth

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/west-ham-set-to-turn-down-rescue-package-1838053.html

Two men are getting a 50% share in the club just for paying player’s salaries.

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by Dave Clark on Dec 11, 2009 4:50 PM PST reply actions  

Really?

So Landon is the highest paid non-DP in MLS and has made almost a million a year for the last 5 years. I wouldn’t ever start a statement that US players in MLS need more money using him as an example, sorry he has tried Europe twice and not cut it and come back. The league has made exceptions for him for the last 4 years to not count against LA’s salary cap the full amount. You plan would get the league on the fast road to broke and out of business, first understand that teams do not sign players so owners have little say in anything this is the Don Garber league and he says what goes and what doesn’t.

The league does need to figure out the CBA, the top priority has to be ending the developmental contracts and paying each player a min of $40,000 a year. The top of the pay scale will take care of itself but when you have players making under 20K a year it simply is a shame.

I love how you imagine that every team has rich owners that are willing to lose money, I believe this year there will be 4 MLS teams that actually made money, so thinking that just spending more will help is simply a mistake. Yes I would love to see the cap increase but that is a lot less about the CBA than it is a league decision.

by denz on Dec 13, 2009 9:17 AM PST reply actions  

I respectfully disagree with the money making

Even that first 2007 report had three teams making money and they ignored two key things.

They ignored TFC entirely.

And then they ignored that every team owns a share of the league and of SUM, and each of those shares was worth about 10M$ in 2007, which did not feature the “Summer of Soccer.”

In 2009 with the increase in revenue controlled stadiums, and counting shares in MLS and SUM at a minimum the following teams will have been profitiable – SSFC, TFC, LAG, RSL, FCD, Fire, Dynamo, RedBullNY. Columbus and New England may also be there. NE does funky tax write-off stuff, so impossible to judge.

As for my “plan,” I didn’t present one. I will in the future, but I have yet to do so. The only plan I present is that American players would be better if they actually play games. And denz, the teams tell the league who to sign, but the league conducts the negotiations. It wasn’t MLS that found Sanna Nyassi, Hurtado and Montero. It was the Sounders.

The plan I present will still be socialist in nature, and actually involves getting rid of the DP.

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by Dave Clark on Dec 13, 2009 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

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