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Let's take a deeper look at Sigi's Arrow. We shall examine my interpretation of the system as the Sounders ended the season, both on offense and defense. How they countered the deep ball, and how they established a bit of width.

Graham calls it a 4-1-Diamond-1, I have called it a 2-3-3-2.  Early on I saw a league of MLS' caliber as one that tends to use four band systems, because there are so many specialists, and due to pace at the Forward there must be systems designed for to defend the counter.  Four bands also tend to demonstrate the ability of "defensive" players to get into the attack as a libero, CDM, or wingback they all get forward a bit and this should be recognized.

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I put the two wingbacks (Gonzalez and Riley) nearly as forward as Alonso because they do enter the attack quite a bit. Usually only when the ball comes up on their side, as you will rarely see them receive a switch when running up the far side. Sometimes they will come up though when the ball advances centrally, but only if both Central Midfielders stay back with Alonso and Hurtado shifting wider to prevent a counter.

That's a first key.  In nearly all circumstances there will remain two layers of defense with four players back ready for the counter.  Marshall or Alonso will tend to be the player that wins that first ball depending on depth, while Hurtado and one of Riley, Gonzalez or Evans will snag that second ball.

Depending on where and how the ball comes up the pitch in a build-up mode the formation can collapse with at least 6 and up to 9 behind the ball. One of the Freddayain will always be advanced and ready for the outlet. Often you will see the attacking midfielders (Zakuani, Ljungberg and Jaqua) act as harriers not allowing the opposition time to patiently advance the ball.

Offensively the point of the arrow does not act as a target - not as a conventional target, nor as a holding forward with their back to the goal. They are there for an outlet, or to slowly advance the ball waiting for runs off of their forward facing position. For this reason it is key that the Sounders most forward player (I still use TF for designation) must have above average passing skills and vision.

Wide play is provided by either the wingbacks or by the wide midfielders but is not of the booming cross variety regardless of the side of pitch. Instead the team prefers low threaded passes or diagonal runs into the box by the player with the ball.

This does tend to lead to a clogged 18-yard box, and the passing up of many shots by the attacking midfielders, though it does lead to late run opportunities by the central midfielders particularly the man in Evans position. That clogged box also leads to improper shot selection, almost a refusal to shoot due to worry about a wasted shot OFF goal.

While it is generally not preferable to take shots that don't challenge a keeper, the Sounders need to be more aggressive in their shooting. A shot blocked by a centerback throwing their body to the carpet is a perfect opportunity for a rebounded garbage goal.

Sigi seemed to me to put the philosophy in place overtime, but it counts on the ability of the CDM, CM and CAM/WF to all work as pivots in play at various points in ball advancement. This allows Sounder to switch the flow by either the long aerial pass, or through a pivot. It also lets the pivot work the ball in three advancing directions as there are available passes forward, up-left and up-right.

To sum up: the formation uses a triple pivot, short rapid passing and multiple threats in the box while allowing for depth in defense against the counter as well as harrying players available to interupt the lateral pass or patient dribbler.

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I wonder if they're be willing to use an asymmetric system.

Move Jaqua to CF as the point, push up Riley even more, and put Montero as right-sided half striker. Seems like it’d be a more efficient use of the right side of the pitch than having Jaqua there as the outside mid.

by Graham on Jan 6, 2010 7:27 PM PST reply actions  

Monter and Jaqua in the arrow

I actually think it would work much better with Jaqua up top and Montero at the Right Attacking Mid/ RIght Wing. He needs space for his 27 stepover move, has the vision though not the speed of a winger as well.

Jaqua can hold the ball up and direct well with his head, but does defend better than Montero. The main problem with Jaqua up in the Target role is that the team tries to force him to head it into the net in a traditional cross and nod system. He isn’t that guy, and they don’t have those kind of wings.

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by Dave Clark on Jan 6, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

the "nominal right"

While they would certainly line up with Jaqua at the right side postiion, during the flow of play, I noticed he would often return to his usual spot up top, with either Montero or Ljungberg working from the right. To agree with Graham, I think the Sounders WERE asymmetrical, if not in theory then at least in practice, because they never really had the Zakuani equivalent on the right (as I mentioned in the comments for the Evans entry). I’m working off little more than my anecdotal memory of just watching many Sounders games, so I’m willing to be proven wrong, but the “nominal right side” position seemed to constantly be in flux, not only from match-to-match but even within the match.

I guess the next question to ask is what is what was Zakuani’s impact on all this. It became clear to me from early on he was not going to be, nor was he asked to be, a traditional left mid. Instead, he followed in the recent global trend of players who are ostensibly lined up wide in order to find space, but primarily interested in attacking towards the goal (Clint Dempsey plays the same way from the right for Fulham, but struggles with the National team where he is tasked with playing a more traditional 4-4-2 style right mid.)

So, I’m waiting for the Zakuani review, Dave!

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by malcontentjake on Jan 7, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

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What is notable is that even when the Sounders interchanged Zakuani would switch less than others, the RW was much more in flux, through the season and in matches, certainly.

Ljungberg when on the right plays it similar to Zakuani, and I think that is what Montero would do, if he were there and didn’t do 27 step-overs when he had space.

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by Dave Clark on Jan 7, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

5-4-1!!??

I had this sudden rush a few hours ago when I realized that you could call the Sounders ’ formation a 5-4-1. Five Defenders in 2 banks, a diamond midfield, and a lone striker.

I f I told most casual fans “the Sounders play a 5-4-1” I’d get shouted out of the room, and rightfully so, because that sounds like something Greece played in Euro 2004! However, as JW says, “formations are neutral.”

This also means I need something else to think about. When does the season start again!!??

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by malcontentjake on Jan 7, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

That was my thought as well.

Ljungberg played semi-similar to Zak, although Freddie as noted would switch and Zak mostly stayed out wide.

I have to say on another note, this offseason has been boring. I think because of the labor situation, things have mostly slowed to a crawl as far as personnel moves around the league.

I think if it stays this way, perhaps it could help the Sounders provided Ljungberg and Montero are here and don’t leave if there is a lockout. I still believe the Sounders will improve more this offseason from just knowing each other better and the places each likes to have the ball and where each player locates himself.

I just hope both sides don’t end up shooting themselves in the foot in labor negotiations.

by Coug1990 on Jan 7, 2010 8:06 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I agree with your analysis of the conservative approach to shooting the Sounders have. I would like to see more shots taken from our mid-fielders at range if they find themselves with space like Alonso in the 3-3 DC United draw.

by reesebw on Jan 6, 2010 11:15 PM PST reply actions  

Thanks Dave!

That helped clear things up for me! Excellent breakdown of the Arrow

by jacobcda on Jan 7, 2010 7:42 AM PST reply actions  

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