What Happened to Wide Play v Galaxy?
Every single pundit said the Seattle Sounders would have the speed advantage against the Los Angeles Galaxy. Part of this was because David Beckham is not fast, not really mobile even. Part of it was because of Todd Dunivant was expected to be the left back. Part of it was because LA is a much better offensive team with Donovan as a withdrawn forward.
The Sounders wide men were expected to dominate, but instead Bruce Arena out-coached Sigi Schmid with some minor changes, and Seattle wasted its few great opportunities from width.
Los Angeles first shift was to put Landon Donovan out wide as a left midfielder. This lineup change shut down most of the width on the right side. Not because he shut down Sanna Nyassi, but because of where Seattle's best width arises.
The other shift was the injury to Dunivant, which led to veteran Eddie Lewis starting. Seattle should have dominated pure match-up of Sanna Nyassi v Lewis, and in the second half v Steve Zakuani.
Third was the shift to being a much more defensive posture. LA went to a bunker system and turned its best two attacking midfielders into nearly wide defenders.
Sigi addressed that third item with Jeremiah during practice yesterday
On freeing up outside players: I think they did a good job. They were very disciplined defensively. Beckham and Donovan, you have to take your hats off to them. They sacrificed a lot of their offensive games to get back and help defend. If they do that again, we just have to be a little bit better at breaking them down. The most important thing is that when we do break them down, because we did break them down a few times, we have to finish the goal. If you finish the goal, everything changes, the whole game changes.
A coach that is willing to turn David Beckham and Landon Donovan into a primarily line of defense changes the tenor of the game. Seattle's wide offense had both fullbacks and wide mids to contend with while LA also had two centerbacks and CDM around to limit the effect of Nkufo and Montero.
Sure that turned the Galaxy into a bunker and counter team, despite their great offensive season. It would limit a majority of their attacks to long balls to Edson Buddle (one that scored) and a speedy Donovan breaking out either on the wing or centrally.
Seattle used both diagonals and straight balls to feed Sanna, but because he plays like an inverted winger diving inside early. This exposed an issue with Seattle's offensive width on the right. Often the threat of service comes from James Riley, but when the best offensive American player is his match up he can't get forward as often. Riley had to be ready to respond to those long penetrating runs, and even with the ball at his feet Landon is fast enough that he can get space.
With Riley not entering that wide space along the elbow as often as he usually does that placed Sanna in situations where he didn't have the outlet to width, instead only able to retreat with a backpass to a worse angle, to attempt a cross in tight coverage or to try and force the ball through a double team on the dribble. All three tactics were attempted. None were particularly successful from the right.
Lewis was particularly good at baiting Seattle into those diagonal passes to Nyassi, knowing that those would lead to turnovers. He could give some space to Nyassi knowing that he could close and he'd have at least one player (Landon, A.J. DeLaGarza or Dema Kovalenko) able to close in a heart beat. Knowing that he would be physically beat, he instead forced the young speedster into situations where Sanna had to make proper footballing decisions.
That didn't happen.
But let's not forget. The left side wasn't much help offensively either, at least not when Steve Zakuani was out there. Seattle used a lot of balls in tight space to spring Zakuani, but with Beckham tight and Sean Franklin loose it packed things in so that the normal interplay between Leo Gonzalez and our favorite former GA left wing couldn't occur at speed. The young Congolese couldn't make his dynamic runs because the entry passes were framed.
Much of what struggled in the first half was again due to the coaching decision that caught Zakuani off guard.
I was a bit surprised. Probably their two best players were playing so defensive. David on one side and Landon on the other. It also reminded me how important these games are. We have to find different ways to beat them. It will be the same at Home Depot. We just have to find a way to be better. Myself, Sanna, Fredy, Blaise and all of that. They can be broken down. We had our chances. We’ve watched tape. We know exactly what we can do. In that game, we still could have scored 2 or 3 goals. Going down there, we need to be patient. They are going to try to frustrate us and they have guys that are there just to frustrate us. It’s just about being patient. When we get one goal, it changes their approach too. So that’s our aim.
Many of Seattle's threats came not when Steve was out wide, but instead when Blaise Nkufo got the ball out there and played with Zakuani on a darting run across a 45 degree angle from the elbow and Montero at the spot ready for a short lob.
That worked well, so maybe having Blaise drift wide to enable Seattle to explore long diagonals to the left side. Whether that results in a Nkufo header to a running Zakauni or the padawan running the ball down as the defense mistakenly plays to the mentor there are chances to be created.
There will be an intense bunker, as it worked in Leg One, and it was a particular way to shut down Seattle's biggest advantages. Pushing the success on the left side early should grant Seattle the opportunity to shift the game tactically and force the more natural open game of both sides.
ESPN2 and MLS would be happy to see it. Both sides play great soccer, with a mix of ball-on-floor and well placed long balls. Sigi would like it too.
I think it matters how the game goes early on. We will get a good taste and we will get a good feel for it. We will see if they are a little more offensively inclined at home. If they are going to play the same way that’s something we will determine early on in the game and then the rest of the game will flow out of that.
Shifting that flow early to a game that Seattle loves to play will lead to Beckham in a central position more often, granting Zakuani more freedom. With Landon Donovan up top (his best position) his responsibility shifts to the center mids and allows Riley to give wide service and maybe add another assist to his total.
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I agree
Dave summed it up perfectly. Lewis had a great game because he knew that Nyassi would screw up if he was forced into making good decisions. Flaco has shown he is a better passer and desicion maker then Nyassi.
Very insightful
Excellent breakdown down of what was actually taking place on the field Dave. Arena was by far the better tactical coach at the outset, and the necessary adjustments were not made to counter those. It was very clear LA had skewed itself defensively. And it was working given how Zak and Nyassi were taken out of their games, and the continual frustration you could see from them and Nkufo.
Per Sigi’s comments, I hope he reacts quick enough by incorporating positional changes between the wings and forwards and by utilizing his 2 primary offensive bench weapons in time. I would guess Arena would stick with the same game plan. Our vulnerability is obviously on counters if he does (or Buddle moon shots), but chances will have to be taken.
If we don’t make the goal up by halftime, and force them out of their bunker, those changes need to come then.
The question is, who are the real “cool cumbers” at playoff time??
If we play long ball, we're done.
Plain and simple. L.A.’s back line is much better than we are in the air. That was demonstrated for the better part of the 2nd half in the 1st leg.
We have to be patient, keep it on the floor and dissect them. It’s the only way we’re going to win this tie.
I worry if Jeff Parke isn’t healthy for the 2nd leg. Tyrone Marshall has proved really impatient at playing small passes out of the back. Anybody seen a status update on Parke?
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Out till Friday
With a sprained ankle. If he can’t even practice till Friday, I can’t see him starting on Sunday. Reports had him limping around yesterday.
Jeremiah was at practice
Here’s his post on that
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Add a Dimension to Our Offense...
…if we can’t break them down on the wings. Granted, I don’t believe now is the time to mess with a scheme that has worked well the last few months. However, if everyone expects us to play the ball down the wings, and our wide players are not effective, we need to be more creative with our offense.
Though it’s risky, I’d like to see Flaco enter the match for Sturgis earlier if our wide play isn’t paying dividends. Flaco gives us a creative influence in midfield that can open things up down the center of the pitch, something that Sturgis and Alonso don’t do well. They swing the ball from side to side, and play well defensively, but they are not the types to play cheeky balls into Nkufo or Montero’s feet directly, which is where we need the ball to be.
I think we should continue to attempt to exploit our speed on the wings, but imagine for once if we added the dangerous dimension of a central threat via Flaco! I thought he did well to liven things up when he moved centrally on Sunday, around the 80th minute after Jaqua came on.
Sigi out-coached
Great article. I agree that Sigi was out-coached by Arena this game. Arena made some smart tactical adjustments and Sigi just didn’t respond.
I agree with many of the posters that El Flaco should start. However, I don’t think he should come in at the wide right position. I’d rather see him start in the Central Midfield with Alonso. We need someone with vision and passing skills to ignite an attack up the center if LA bunkers down. Hopefully, that will create some space on the wings and for Montero in the middle.
Let's keep this in perspective
We put eight shots on goal, forced Donovan Ricketts into a few very impressive saves and gave up a wonder goal. I wouldn’t mind seeing Flaco getting the start, but it’s hardly time to scrap what has been working all year. Making too many changes would be worse than making too few in this case, I think.
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Well said
I do believe making 1 change with Flaco getting the start for Nyassi is a good idea. However, i disagree with the sentement i’ve seen around the web that we need to do an all out attacking change. This is why i believe Sturgis still gets teh start in the center. It is only 1 to 0.
I think the SciFi theme this week, instead of star wars, should be Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.
DON"T PANIC!!!
1 change does not an all-out attacking overhaul make
I don’t think putting in El Flaco either at the center would make a huge change to the system. He’s strong defensively and plays only slightly ahead of Sturgis in the midfield, IMHO. Alonso will have to stay back a bit more defensively, but he’s certainly capable of it.
True, but...
…we don’t need an overhaul, we need a small tactical change to increase our unpredictability (is that a word?).
Bruce Arena and everyone else in the world is honed in on our wingers. And as of now, we don’t have anything else to throw at them to keep them honest! That’s because our CMs are quality ball winners and keep possession, but they do not have the creativity in their passing game that can open up the defense centrally, and thereby also make more space on the wings.
I think we’re proving to be a bit of a one trick pony at this point, and we need to evolve sometime soon (if not this week, then definitely in the offseason) to become a dominant side in MLS.
We did have chances.
I thought Sigi did change his tactics by pushing Nkufo out wide left for spells. However, when Nkufo did get the ball out wide, he just had some bad touches or took a little too much time to play in Zak or Montero.
On the other side, Nyassi was able to get free on the wing a few times although he just blew it every time he had a good chance to cross.
I don’t think Nyassi’s crossing ability will get any better in a weeks time, unless he just remembers to concentrate better.
I do expect a player with Nkufo’s ability to not make as many errors as he did last game and I hope what chances he gets will pan out for us in a goal.
Flaco for Sturgis; Fucito for Nyassi
Please do this Sigi, I’m begging you.
by soundersfcfanboy on Nov 3, 2010 11:48 AM PDT reply actions
Actually...
How about Fucito for Sturgis and Flaco for Nyassi. Yea, I like that better.
by soundersfcfanboy on Nov 3, 2010 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I love Fucito but...
…even I would not put him as a CM. But I’m curious as to why you would suggest it?
by roadrunner11 on Nov 3, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah i just believe that
we have to score. Basically we need more offensive minded guys going forward. If they take away the outside from us again then we need someone in the middle who can create and link better with the forwards. That man has to be Flaco.
Does anyone believe that LA is not going to just bunker and counter unless we score on them? We need Flaco. Come on SIgi!!
reply to myself
duh on that first sentence that we ned to score.. I meant that “since” we need to score :)
Don't overreact to outcomes
If Buddle doesn’t get a great bounce for his volley, or if Zakuani doesn’t flub a sitter, or if Ricketts doesn’t get a great read on 3 or 4 good shots, or if Nyassi completes a few of his crosses, then it’s not a 1-0 loss and complaints about Sigi being outcoached. It’s a draw or a 1-0 win and everybody’s celebrating what a great clutch coach Sigi is, even though none of those things have anything to do with coaching.
Nos Audietis
Yeah, but that was all in the first half
My complaints with Sigi are in the 2nd half. The Sounders looked ugly out there. It very clear that something needed to change in the 2nd half to defeat the bunker.
The one complaint I have with Sigi’s coaching style is his strict adherence to his sub-pattern. Barring injury, he always puts in one sub around the 65th minute and I’m almost certain he knows ahead of time exactly who he wants to put in (regardless of what’s going on in the game). He won’t burn his last two subs until the last 10 minutes of the game (barring injury). But by that time it’s usually too late.
Sometimes you need to burn a sub or two early in the 2nd half. Especially if a player is getting shut down or having a horrible night (like Nyassi last game).
absolutely
They were both too late. Nyassi wasn’t going to get any better in the 2nd half. And that last (incorrect) sub had such little time to get into the flow besides. It likely contributed to why Jaqua got off such a weak shot..
Kinda saw this coming
Nyassi is a very young player in this league and it’s no stretch to consider him a sort-of rookie. This was a big game against a very strong team. Ultimately, I thought he’d have problems. But I thought that long before I saw Lewis was going to start. Lewis is slow and not a particularly strong defender, but he’s a vet and used all those skills to shut down Sanna.
Zak was a whole other case. He hasn’t had a strong game ever against Franklin. I believe Zak has had his biggest problems on the field against a fast defender. Franklin is not only fast, but smart. He’ll be a long-time starter on the national team imo. Add in Gonzalez, who I’m ready to hand over the starting center def spot on the USMNT, you’ve got a pretty potent defense (not to mention Berkhalter and Ricketts).
I saw this as a draw going in and other than a fluke shot, that’s what it would have been. I’m heartened, though. Zak got better in the second half, even though it didn’t always show, and I suspect both of these guys will come out in LA wanting to show their level.
Nkufo out wide
I kind of saw Nkufo’s forays to the left differently. On the one hand, a little change of pace is never a bad thing. On the other hand, I kept asking myself: if he can find space out there, why can’t Zakuani? Or why can’t Zakuani find space inside? In other words, I just wondered if Zakuani was was overcome by the moment somehow? Because when Nkufo gets the ball out wide, I’m not quite sure who might be in the middle to battle big Omar Gonzalez for crosses? Anyway, I’ll be very interested to see how Sigi and the team responds.
Might have been a matter of how they were defended
Sean Franklin was on Zak, and he wasn’t going to easily let him find space on the left. On the other hand, the centerbacks were generally going to be in charge of defending Nkufo, and they’re generally not going to follow him wherever he wanders.
When Nkufo gets out wide, he’s probably not looking to send a cross to someone’s head. If he gets the ball and can take it to the touchline, he can try to pass it to someone at the top of the box, maybe Fredy or Ozzie, who could put a shot in on goal, or he could try to get a shot for himself.

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