Rhyme or Reason behind the Lineups in the loss to Rosenborg?
I like to talk in the terms of Starters, Rotationals, Subs and Reserves. These days though those final two sections are really just Trialists. The depth chart is in flux, and so Sigi had to choose a lineup that he hoped could win, but at the same point the Sounders are trying to figure out a few spaces who the starter will be (RM and CB), and are the depth is certainly up for battle.
It feels like time for a little graphic
| Montero | ||||||
| Predido (46) | ||||||
| Ljungberg | ||||||
| Levesque (46) | ||||||
| Nyassi | ||||||
| Neagle | Vagenas | Estrada (46) | ||||
| Rayner (46) | King (60) for Alonso | |||||
| Alonso | ||||||
| Sturgis (46) for Vagenas | ||||||
| Gonzalez (60) | Riley | |||||
| Wahl | Hurtado | Marshall | Scott (60) | |||
| Wallace (60) | Ianni (46) | |||||
| Keller | ||||||
| Eylander (46) |
There are few things that need a little explanation. Left and Right fullbacks played a mirror image. In the first half Riley was the more typically attacking player, while in the second half that went to Gonzalez. In the midfield the more defensive Sturgis came on for Vagenas, and later King assumed the now more attacking role that Alonso had assumed.
What is really notable for me, besides a Seattle team that can't play in the rain and that 3-nil scoreline is that the Sounders played only 6 starters to start the match, and only 8 throughout (because one of Marshall/Ianni will start). The Sounders treated this more as a preseason match than a match contesting a "minor cup."
That may be due to the first opponent. Rosenborg is damn good in their league and make trips to Europe with fair regularity. They by the way only put 13 total men on the pitch. Only two subs, they played this like a game, not training. They have won 3 La Manga Cups, and for them this isn't as minor a trophy as it is for an MLS side.
Of course, maybe MLS treats it a bit worse, as their chances of winning are lower.
Sigi talked about how a few of the players did.
I thought Nate Sturgis came in and played very well in the second half for us. I thought Kasey was good in goal. I thought Freddie Ljungberg played well and was busy enough for us. Sanna Nyassi had some moments. Certainly his speed presents problems for the opposition. His decision making still needs to improve. I thought Stephen King came in and played well. I also thought Roger Levesque came in and played very well in the second half. So I was pleased with those guys.
[later]
Perdido had a chance where he almost scored. I don’t know if Montero was offside on the one. It was certainly close. But I didn’t think we embarrassed ourselves, but certainly the measure of the game they were the better team.
With so much depth in the midfield the competition between Sturgis, Vagenas, King, Neagle, Nyassi, Fucito, Rayner, and to a lesser extent Levesque should be tight, and honestly good for the club. It will likely wind up bad for 1 or 2 of those guys. It also won't get easier when they get back to the States when Gardner and others may rejoin the Sounders.
For those that watched the feed, or have read the reports what are your thoughts on the Sounders first loss of the year?
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I don’t know if Rosenborg places more importance on winning the La Manga Cup as much as it’s a function of roster size. Rosenborg has a full reserve team. Guys on trial can play in the reserves. That means you can place more emphasis on winning even something as trifling as a preseason tournament.
Seattle, like every MLS team, isn’t allowed to have that many players, and thus must treat preseason friendlies like reserve games to get a look at any on-the-bubble type of player. Otherwise, you never get a look at those guys in a true game situation.
by ChestRockwell on Feb 18, 2010 9:39 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
King and Sturgis
I’m happy to read Sigi’s comments about King and Sturgis. Those two I’m hoping we see more of this year. They both have the potential to be solid players for us.
Neagle
Seems like Neagle didn’t make much of his chances with the first team. A very quiet game.
You also have to take into consideration that Rosenborg is way farther a long into preseason than the Sounders are by this point (about 2 weeks). So even if they did have line up changes earlier in preseason they would probably be resolved by this point considering this was something like their 5th preseason game (or so).
The Sounders aren’t fully fit yet and had over a day long travel to get to Spain and played pretty much on the day after they got there. Anyways I expect that they will do a lot better in the next game. Since the Sounders really weren’t prepared physically or mentally for this game I don’t think.
I take it as their chance to see what they are up against for the rest of the competition. The rest of the teams aren’t as good as Rosenborg so they Sounders will have a better chance and I’m sure they will play better too.
We’ll have to see what Sigi does for the next match and go more off of that than this game. This one was way more like a warm-up than the rest will probably be.
by majora999 on Feb 19, 2010 10:35 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
The things I noticed.
1) We were trying to be far too cute with the ball in front of the goal. Lot’s of little passes and such when we probably should have been taking shots.
2) Kasey Keller is one loud SOB. The feed had no announcers and you could hear him constantly while he was on the pitch.
3) I’m not sure I’d take too much away from this game because of the field conditions and the much higher level of quality of our opponent. We looked rusty, which is fine.
I do hope we’ll see number 1 addressed though. That was a major problem last year and it would be nice to see it rectified.

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