Politics and Sports often Mix - Hopefully Sounders FC Choose Good
As we sit and watch the Winter Olympics, and ponder the deep meaning of curling we are frequently reminded about how politics and sports have mixed in the Olympics. From the tragedy of Munich, to the inspiration of the Korean 'unified' team the Olympics have been used for political statements. They were used as a pawn in the Cold War between the Soviet Union and the United States as well.
But the mix of Politics/Sports is not limited to the Olympics. Sport has been a means of cultural exchange between bitterly opposed parties. Iran and the USA have had an exchange of wrestling teams. Israel has a history of little league and soccer events with its Arab opponents. US soldiers regularly use baseball and soccer as a means to communicate with Iraqi and Afghan communities and humanize both sides.
Sports are just another tool of the modern diplomat. Sport has also been used to advance Civil Rights. There is plenty of evidence in the USA that Jackie Robinson helped white America and black America see commonality. College basketball also addressed the issue with that historic match between Texas Western and Kentucky.
In soccer we have seen race relations in France and England advance because of the sport, not in spite of it. There are even recent overtures to reach out and prevent homophobic and gay slurs within the English League system, and while players were not willing to speak out against that bigotry it is still an early advancement to remove a stain on sports - the closeted gay teammate.
Sport offers us an opportunity to interact, to engage, and yes to forget. Ideally to forget our differences. Sounders FC will be hosting three international friendlies and one must wonder if we will see a mix between politic and sport. If we do, will it be to positively influence our community and the communities invited here? Or will it be a stain?
The Sounders publicly declare their core values. I, and hopefully others, agree with those core values. Unfortunately there are some very famous, and fairly good clubs in the international game that do not fit with those core values.
Passion - Community - Courage - Excellence
All under the banner of "Democracy in Sports"
There are numerous clubs that don't really necessarily fit within the values of the Community here in the Puget Sound.
Juventus, unfortunately, has a history of fines due to the racist behavior of its fans. Most recently the taunts were so significant that they were forced to play in an empty stadium. They aren't the only club with problems in Italy, it happens at all levels. From the link above we learn.
Near the Umbrian town of Terni a few weeks ago, a small amateur team, ASD Nuova Casteltodino, made national headlines when the whole team walked off the pitch after one of their two players of Nigerian origin was called a "dirty Negro" by an opposition player.
But the stain of racism is not the only stain on soccer. Two of the most famous clubs have a history of violence and religious bigotry. The Old Firm - Celtic and Rangers - have a history of sectarianism and violence as the two sides built their fan-bases by tying themselves to sides in the conflict of Northern Ireland. While yes there have been improvements there are still issues, and certainly history.
While every year there are fewer and fewer clubs that can be tied to intolerance and bigotry these are still issues facing our globe, our nation and our region. In this writer's opinion these three name football clubs though are ones that do not deserve the financial support of the Puget Sound.
I am not crazy enough to say that there should be a political test, nor a vote by fans, to determine what clubs should visit our region and face the Sounders. But I am crazy enough to express the opinion that the Sounders don't need the money badly enough to sacrifice our community's values by making money off of clubs that fail to recognize the basic rights of humanity.
UPDATE: Former Mayor Greg Nickels was on Radio Sounders over the weekend and talked about this issue, and many others. Not surprisingly someone who was known during their time for being inclusive and compassionate is has an opinion worth hearing. Overall the interview is a mix of politics and sport as seperate issues with this really being the only bridge between the two.
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Italian football (or fan behavior) is particularly bad.
So much so that I decided I didn’t want to support any Italian teams.
I support Fulham, but not for the reasons most people do. The main reason I chose them is because they consistently finish atop the Fair Play table for both fans and players. That’s something worth supporting.
Do you have info about who our friendlies will be?
I do not
I just don’t want it to be an organization that profits off of bigotry.
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I have been asked where the line should be drawn
the clubs I mention are actually making money off of policies of bigotry.
That’s a pretty clear line for me.
Clubs with routine, regular and recent bigotry that helps them pad their revenue streams should not be included on my team’s schedule.
Racism is not a core value of the Sounders or Seattle. Sectarianism is not a core value of the Sounders or Seattle. It comes down to the ORGANIZATION, not just a few players.
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How, though, do you draw that line?
The anti-homophobia commercial draws attention to the fact that English fans regularly toss out defamatory remarks insulting homosexuals. Do we state that none of those clubs get to visit?
And why exclude Celtic and Rangers from our list when both clubs are making strides toward improving their issues with sectarianism? Do they have to reach a certain point before they are allowed to play at Qwest?
As someone who just came from seeing San Siro (unfortunately was not there for the Inter v Chelsea game) I would actually argue the opposite direction—that inviting supporters of clubs might encourage them to be a bit more open on their thoughts of the world. Travel broadens the mind and soccer fans will certainly travel to see their club. Will they necessarily travel just for a friendly? Likely not, but if a trip to the US was already on their plate, perhaps they would organize their schedule to have it include Seattle rather than San Francisco, or something like that. Let them see the way we run our club; the way our supporters act. Better to be a model than exclusive.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Feb 25, 2010 7:34 AM PST reply actions
I think four years without an incident that required league or continental attention
Is a good marker.
Keep clean for four years and come make millions off of my community.
And yes cultural exchange is an important element, but it has never been done without conditions. You are also right that our culture here is one to share.
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Football and Racism
Explain to me how inviting a European club to play the Sounders is “profiting off of bigotry”? The clubs don’t condone the actions of the supporters. If you’re suggesting all the supporters of Juvy, Celtic and Rangers are bigots, you’re dead wrong. I know many who possess strong passions for their team, but aren’t racist. And besides, how would you suggest a club control its supporters? The ones you called out all the pout initiatives into place, making public announcements at the stadium and PSAs to discourage such conduct. And there are regular expulsions from the stadium where a taunt is reported. These are having an effect. But the clubs can’t wipe it all out. So to turn down chances to play with these teams because of that is missing out on opportunity.
Besides, I know a guy who works security at the Home Depot Center for both Galaxy and Chivas USA matches. He said you’d be surprised at the level of racist taunting and hooliganism at these matches. But MLS cameramen are savvy enough not to allow it to feature. He did say it’s among a small, vocal band of supporters, but it occurs at every match (I assume he was including the Sounders fans in that comment). So to think it doesn’t happen here is naive.
Bring ’em on.
Actually
The clubs I have mentioned have at various points refused to take action, which is why they have been penalized by UEFA at various points.
Juve has refused to take part in Italian League anti-racism campaigns. Celtic has refused to encourage sectarian chants. Rangers have improved but still have black players for their own team facing racism from their own fans.
In the Old Firm’s case they actually have policies of sectarianism, that were not denied for decades.
As for turning down the opportunity, there are dozens of clubs at that level of play in the world. To ignore the handful that have routine, recent and regular issues with bigotry would not hurt the Sounders financially as they could be replaced with clubs that don’t have these issues to the extent that they have been punished by League, Nation or Regional authorities.
As for bigotry in MLS – I will not deny that it exists. The League actually has ejected some fans permanently from the stands. I believe a team has been fined once.
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A Mayor sounds off on bigotry and sports
Former Mayor Greg Nickels was on Radio Sounders over the weekend and talked about this issue, and many others. Not surprisingly someone who was known during their time for being inclusive and compassionate is has an opinion worth hearing. Overall the interview is a mix of politics and sport as seperate issues with this really being the only bridge between the two.
I am not a Supporter
I am not a Fan
I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
Oh yeah
The link
http://www.prostamerika.com/2010/02/28/greg-nickels-guests-on-radio-sounders-20926/
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I am not a Fan
I am a Sounder
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