Salt Lake owner hints at use of replacement players
This shouldn't come as much of a surprise to anyone that has been paying attention, but reading just a little bit between the lines of Salt Lake co-owner Dave Checketts' comments in the Deseret News indicates that MLS is preparing to use replacement players in the case of a strike.
"We know exactly what we'll do. These are all owners who've been in the NBA, they've been in the NHL, some of them own Major League Baseball teams even today. We know what we'll do. We have a plan if the players strike," said Checketts. "I just hope the players understand the implication of the threats they're making to strike because if they do in fact go on strike, then that forces the owners to do something very aggressive and very different."
Whether that contingency plan calls for replacement players, Checketts wouldn't elaborate. But he did say the owners "will take action that will make life very difficult."
There's also this line, which appears to be the author taking some liberties with his own interpretations.
Owners are more likely to field teams of scabs than they are to give into the players demands for free agency.
"It's not in my hands now. The commissioner is at the table. The owners are absolutely unified in supporting him. Smart people have got to sit down and bargain in good faith and find a way to make a deal. (It's) the threat of a strike hanging over us we don't respond to very well," said Checketts.
Elsewhere, there's speculation the reason teams waited until this week to cut down rosters was to ensure that replacement players were more up-to-date than they otherwise would be.
In any case, it's pretty obvious that owners are a bit peeved at the players openly threatening to strike as Checketts is the fourth owner in the last three days to speak out. He joins Seattle's Joe Roth, the Galaxy's Tim Leiweke and San Jose's Lew Wolff, none of whom have been painted as bad guys in the past and in some cases are considered the more player-friendly owners.
Obviously, I'm hoping fans won't be forced to choose between respecting picket lines and attending soccer games. After talking to several fans over the past few days, though, I get the distinct impression that many are still unaware that a strike is even imminent. Their biggest concern seemed to be whether they'd still be asked to pay full price to watch substandard players, and were less concerned about the principals of the work stoppage.
The last time a major league American sport used replacement players for regular-season games was during the 1987 NFL players strike. In that situation, players managed to get Week 3 canceled, but the next three weeks were played with a combination of replacements and line-crossers. Players eventually called off the strike after 24 days without a deal. The union eventually decertified before reorganizing in 1989.
The players ultimately won free agency through the courts in 1993, paving the way for their first CBA in more than 10 years.
What are your thoughts on the potential use of replacement players?
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Who gets to be a replacement player?
Will there be tryouts? This could actually be kind of fun.
Both sides are to blame
I don’t know how the previous situations have been worked out but in this paticular one I would not be in favor of replacement players.
The owners shouldn’t benefit by being just as stubborn and bull headed as the players. Really the players aren’t asking for that much and the owners are just being difficult, but the players do need to compromise some as well. If there is no CBA complete by the deadline then neither side should get anything.
Do you guys actually want to go watch 2nd or 3rd tier american players playing against each other instead of the normal ones? I would highly doubt it. If a strike does happen I would be one ot boycott anything that happens MLS wise until both side stop being complete idiots and work something out.
People will not pay for tickets
to come watch a bunch of college kids or PDL players. I renewed my season tickets to see the Sounders, not some mashup that was thrown together to fill in.
Unfortunately
I think we have a very skewed idea of how closely many fans pay attention. I went to the Sounders-Timbers game with about 20 people. Of those people, a couple were season-ticket holders and all of them had been to games in teh past. None of them knew about the possibility of a strike before I told them. I just have a hard time believing people like that care that much about the quality of players they’re watching. It’s about atmosphere and having a good time.
If the passionates stay away, though, you have to imagine casual fans would eventually follow suit. I just wonder how long it would take.
by Jeremiah Oshan on Mar 18, 2010 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I know several people
that casually follow the Sounders and had no clue about the CBA and possible strike. I think that’s a testament to the low amount of media coverage MLS gets.
Reading my post again, I think I sounded a bit harsh. I love watching soccer at any level. I like watching PDL games when I get a chance. But I’m not gonna pay to see my Sounders and end up watching someone else. I feel like if this scab situation happens, season ticketholders are getting jacked. We won’t get our money back, and we’ll forced to watch a team we didn’t pay to see. Or else eat the cost of the ticket and not go in protest.
by chrisperry1983 on Mar 18, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Just an example of coverage
My wife and I were watching the morning news today and she pointed out that if you get all your news there, you’d have no idea a strike was even a possibility.
by Jeremiah Oshan on Mar 18, 2010 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
I heard it for the first time on NPR yesterday morning,
not counting “Only a Game.”
I believe it was the local anchor though, not the national.
You’re right. Very rare to hear anything.
If I wanted to watch PDL players I would just go watch the Tacoma Tide. I live like 2 miles from where they play, plus it’d be way cheaper to pre-game at my house.
I imagine the South End will look very empty if they result to scabs. I have a feeling ECS would organize not to go to matches.
You have enough money to ignore that you already paid for tickets?
I don’t. I spent nearly 1,000$ on tickets for this season. If there are games, most season ticket holders will go.
I am not a Supporter
I am not a Fan
I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
I've got tickets to a number of games.
If there are replacement players on the pitch, I’m going to go.
I think I would probably look to sell mine.
But I would be significantly pissed off.
I would not use my tickets to see scabs
and I’d probably be so pissed that I wouldn’t renew for 2011
Actually, I should revise.
I will only be significantly pissed if I am not offered some sort of compensation for either missing games or scab teams. Either a refund, or a credit, or whatever.
If I am forced to eat the cost (missed games or scab at full price), I will not be a happy fellow.
Great historical take..
Tom Dunmore breaks down the comparison between this labor situation and the 1987 NFL strike.
by Jeremiah Oshan on Mar 18, 2010 10:03 AM PDT reply actions
Another interesting observation
IF (I really need to make sure people don’t think I’m saying owners are definitely doing this) owners call in replacements, Kenn suggests the quality of play will probably not even be equal to USL or USL2.
So let’s look at the question of replacement players for a moment. Could you find 288 guys who could play next weekend? Probably. They wouldn’t be MLS players (at least not front-line guys). It’s unlikely they’d be USSFD2 players, many of whom have jobs as that season is starting in less than a month. USL-2 (third division) guys might take a flier, I guess. Their league is not exactly the Ritz.
Would it be the "extra" guys MLS teams have been carrying in camp to this point (roster cutdown day was March 1, but they didn’t enforce it while negotiations were going on)? Those guys have at least been in camp, they’re not completely off the street, and they’re fit.And he imagines heavy blowback for players that do cross.
by Jeremiah Oshan on Mar 18, 2010 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
College kids maybe. Maybe some of the higher-up regional clubs. And throw them all together without really any warning…ugh. A surefire recipe for ugly play and disappointment.
by chrisperry1983 on Mar 18, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Have to agree
The owners can probably afford to take the PR hit of playing a couple of games with replacements. They can’t absorb the blow of the season to be canceled.
by Jeremiah Oshan on Mar 18, 2010 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope the players realize this.
They just don’t seem to have as much leverage as they think they have.
Bad Plan
Really a bad plan. I, for one, would consider a class action suit against the Sounders/MLS to get my money back. I didn’t pay to see college-level (or worse) ball. Even more, I absolutely support the players (in so much as their demands include free agency) and if they put a team of scabs out there, I’ll be permanently out. That’s after 30+ years of supporting this organization. Finally, I’d also be opposed to what this would do to the current state of 2nd division ball.
More idle guessing
I think the players union almost has to hold a vote on whatever the last, best offer was before authorizing a strike. Otherwise, I have a hard time believing players won’t cross, especially if you believe a third of players voted to ratify the old CBA a few months ago. If a significant number of players cross, I don’t see how fans could be expected to stay away.
by Jeremiah Oshan on Mar 18, 2010 11:12 AM PDT reply actions
At least they're talking
The two sides are in DC today.
by Jeremiah Oshan on Mar 18, 2010 11:13 AM PDT reply actions
It really does seems like few people even know this is a possibility. I picked up a GA ticket this year to sit with ECS and have been selling my other season tickets. People are paying well over face even though, as far as I understand it, they will only get face back at best should their be no games.
If there is a strike I would love it for the stands to be empty, but sadly I think that won’t happen. It would be nifty though if ECS organized some kind of boycott.
Jus't don't care any more.
Crush the union and get it over with. MLSPU has surpassed the NHLPA’s record for utter stupidity by a player’s union by threatening the league’s survival in a critical year. Let them picket. I’ll give them the finger as I go in to watch their replacements play.
by BroadwayJoeFYVM on Mar 18, 2010 5:31 PM PDT reply actions

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