Designated Player slots explode in number
by Perrinbar on Apr 1, 2010 9:35 AM PDT
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Official MLS release here. What does this mean for the Sounders? Who knows, I wouldn't be surprised if the Nkufo signing was made with this already in mind. Our biggest issue would be clearing roster space to accommodate up to 2 more Designated Players, but I'm sure we have the money to sign big name guys. This is clearly a move made with the World Cup year in mind and certainly in the hopes that certain Thierry's might decide to mosey on Stateside after the Cup is over. I think it will be very, very interesting to see how this plays into things and to see what the Sounders do with it. Lots of possibilities.
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Up to 3 DPs per team. Much lower cap hits overall. Now can be offered to a player under contract already.
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I think this represents a shift towards trying to bring in more players
from out of the country. The quickest way to improve play in MLS is to bring the best players here. And while we arn’t even close to hitting that lofty goal, this certainly greases the tracks for clubs to start bringing more players in. While helping the poorer clubs financially. They said it will work sort of like a luxury tax, which benefits a team like the Sounders. We can use our financial success thanks to the fans to further improve the team.
Now with more lemon bars!
I'm delirious with the possibilities
There are pitfalls, concentrating 39% of your teams salary into 3 players is inherently risky, teams have to scout well to avoid busts like Denilson and Landin. But hopefully this helps close the league-wide talent donut hole. Perhaps it keeps players like Stuart Holden, Ricardo Clark, Fredy Montero here a few more years. Now players like that can always say, “It’s not the money, I want to go to Europe and compete with the best” and I can’t fault them. However, keep just a handful here and MLS gets closer to “the best.” Ideally it becomes an improvement feedback loop.
In the short term, these changes really make the Sounders the 800 pound gorilla of MLS. If fans keep turning out, only LA and NY can hope to compete with us. At the same time, by lowering the initial cap hit, I honestly hope it gets some teams off the fence to sign one DP.
Toronto as well
They actually make money.
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Hardly DP Money
I hope N’Kufo ISN’T assigned DP status because it would be a waste. At $500,000, he’s not even close to traditional DP money, nor is he DP quality. This team can and must buy the 2.5-3.5 mil DPs, because I’ll bet, Henry and Raul will be in NY come July 15.
Nkufo as a DP isn't necessarily a bad idea
His cap hit this year would only be $167,500, and $335,000 next year. Assuming his 2010 salary will be prorated to $250,000, that’s a net savings against the cap of $82,500 this year and $165,000 in 2011. That amount of money gets you 2-3 decent mid-level players. It’s not all about perceived quality, it’s about how the Sounders manage the total cap. If NY wants to out-bid themselves for Henry, et al., they can be my guest.
Plus,
as mentioned below we are saving another $80,000 with the adjustment to Ljungberg’s cap hit. So for this year that would be $162,500 which is pretty not bad. We do run into the problem of roster space again. They need to expand the roster size, plain and simple. Is Ljungberg’s contract through this year?
How often does an EPL side use its 25th Man?
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How often does an EPL side that is involved in all the cups and the Champion’s league use their 25th man? This does become less of an issue if the developmental league comes back, but we have to carry anyone we are planning on developing as well as guys we actually plan on using in games. I’m just saying I think an increase in roster size would be beneficial.
ManU in 07/08
played in nearly 60 competitive matches. They used their 25th man less than 5 times.
Roster size isn’t the problem. Roster DEPTH is.
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Fine, fine, fine. Dazzle me with your numbers and your facts! I know, in my gut(where all the nerve endings are), that they probably used their 25th man at least 30 times. I do still think the development point stands out though. Would we carry Montano on our roster if we had a feeder team that we could get him minutes with? Regardless, adding DP slots would certainly address the depth question.
Hanauer reponse regarding rather Kufo will be DP or not
http://blog.thenewstribune.com/soccer/2010/04/01/hanauer-2-maybe-3-dps-possible-for-sounders/
“It could be. We have a couple of mechanisms at our disposal to fit Nkufo under our budget. The DP possibility is one of them. But we luckily don’t have to decide until summer, until he actually is on the roster officially to make that decision.”
Translation
“We might have other signings on the horizon, while the rest of you MLS squirrels chase around for a nut.”
but remember...
No team has won MLS cup with a DP, and DP can be serious busts (Denilson, Gallardo) My hope is that MLS never becomes a haves and have nots type league like the EPL, no 800 pound gorillas… Of course if that does happen it makes clusterf___ overpaid teams that do implode all the more entertaining…
Recalling the Impact of the DP
http://www.sounderatheart.com/2009/12/29/1224705/designated-players-worth-their
More likely in Playoffs, neutral on Major Trophies, DP teams less likely to minor trophy, worse in non-League play
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Here's how I see at least one aspect of it.
More DPs – More household names on MLS rosters – more casual American soccer fans buy tickets and gear.
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by deepsouthsoccer on Apr 1, 2010 10:26 AM PDT reply actions
So many ideas
van Nistelrooy, Robbie Keane, Michael Owen… oh man.
On the other hand, this scares me that teams will run out and purchase big names and then not have any impact on their performance or attendance, then lose more money…
I like Deco.
Wonder if he’d come. That type of creativity in the middle is unheard of in MLS.
He's getting up there in years
but we might have to wait till he’s like 35 or 36
by chrisperry1983 on Apr 1, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
He might actually
He’s going to get shoved out of the door at Chelsea this summer, and none of the great/good European teams seem particularly interested.
by Graham MacAree on Apr 1, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Start a website. DecoForThird.com
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by kentroyals5 on Apr 1, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Lookout Landing inside joke. Sorry.
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LeoneForThird
was the original site name
But Deco wouldn’t be a #3, nor play third
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3rd DP slot is where I was going with that.
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He clearly didn't invest in mortgage-backed securities
because he seems to be able to float around playing soccer and not get paid for it.
Don't forget that this immediately frees up $80,000 in cap space for the Sounders,
since all DP’s now count $335,000 instead of $415,000. With the new collective bargaining agreement raising the cap along with this, the Sounders should have plenty of room to add players or raise player salaries.
Aren't we all excited to be a Sounders fans?
We have owners that have money and are willing to spend it. Cannot say that about some of the other franchises.
Not only that
But they are constantly actively scouting. Who else would’ve found Nkufo?
by chrisperry1983 on Apr 1, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I sat on the news for a while
thinking the same thing
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It seemed more plausible
than Duane’s TFC-Marta story.
First we get 5 years of labor piece
Then a second and third DP spot. MLS is gearing up to raid the post World Cup talent market.
this is what i would like to see for this year
Kufo Montero
zak Alonso(holding mid) DP2 (CAM) Ljungberg
Leo Marshall hurtado Riley
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