GameThread, KC Wizards vs. Seattle Sounders FC, Game 4
by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 11:41 AM PDT
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Here's the new match day quick reference card. Notice some players have been moved around and Brad Evans is off for Peter Vagenas.
I know many were hoping for our first rain-free home game, but Mother Nature has not cooperated.
In case you haven't been reading this week, here's our Keys to the Game and KC Scouting Report.
Apparently, Kei Kamara is probable, but I'm guessing he'll play.
Have at it.
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Another notable change
Looks like Kamara is playing and he will be switching with Wolff, and playing in the middle instead of on the right.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 11:50 AM PDT reply actions
glad there's company
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:04 PM PDT reply actions
What can I do, I'm sick and living East of the Mountains.
Lame excuses, sure.
by magistermilitum on Apr 17, 2010 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, that's a change
KC unveils a 4-5-1, with Kamar up top.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:05 PM PDT reply actions
4-3-3?
My guess is it will play more like a 4-3-3 – guess we will see.
by brokejumper on Apr 17, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
youre probalby right
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Apparently
it’s already playing like a 4-3-3
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Uhm... Arlo?
“A dynamic duo in the middle of the park” referring to Vagenas. Have you seen him play?
Well, if it's in comparison to Evans...
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
that was ugly
again, failing to get the ball clear
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:09 PM PDT reply actions
We've spent an inordinate amount of time on our side of the pitch during the last 3 games.
Would that be a result of our formation, poor passing, or just a part of our strategy?
by magistermilitum on Apr 17, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it was partially strategy
But it was taken to such an extreme last week that it backfired.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Arlo loves saying "Rio Tinto Stadium"
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:10 PM PDT reply actions
so far so good against Smith
Thought they’ve played him well
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:11 PM PDT reply actions
thought that was a nice touch by noonan
if Ljungberg was a step faster, that would have been a nice chance
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:15 PM PDT reply actions
that looked real sharp
Noonan had a couple nice touches and had a decent shot.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:17 PM PDT reply actions
Great challenge
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:20 PM PDT reply actions
another good link
Feels like Montero needs to bury that.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:20 PM PDT reply actions
They've had some good pressure early.
Though losing Marshall can’t help.
by magistermilitum on Apr 17, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Noonan has looked much sharper
Although I’d prefer that he scored that first one.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a good sign
Tyrone Marshall looks like he needs stitches. Do you want him to stay in?
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:23 PM PDT reply actions
Ianni warming up
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:23 PM PDT reply actions
marshall returns
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions
20 minute recap
Think Sounders have been playing their game. Noonan and the rest of the attack have looked good. Ljungberg has been a little disappointing. The defense has been solid.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:29 PM PDT reply actions
"Playing their game"
Good way to describe it. We aren’t high octane at all, but you can see them opening up space with their passes.
Better still, KC’s attack hasn’t been that worrisome yet.
by magistermilitum on Apr 17, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
Kamara probably could have gotten a yellow there
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:30 PM PDT reply actions
Wow
Freddie actually passed to Fredy. Almost something beautiful.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions
Way to go Hurtado
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:32 PM PDT reply actions
Looks like Smith and Kamara have switched sides
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:33 PM PDT reply actions
That's a weak yellow
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:36 PM PDT reply actions
I want to see that offsides again
Looked real close, and I’m not sure he wasn’t kept on by one of the center backs.
me too
He didn’t look off at all
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Conrad out
Besler in
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:39 PM PDT reply actions
Don't like all these corners tho
Think that’s four now
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:40 PM PDT reply actions
Haven't had many chances to listen to Arlo
He’s quite a hoot with that DQ commercial.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:41 PM PDT reply actions
that was so dumb
Why, Zak, why?
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions
Hurtado just bailed out Vagenas
Man, he’s looked good up untilt that pass.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:45 PM PDT reply actions
Anyone's thoughts during this break?
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:46 PM PDT reply actions
Sounders, especially Zak, are letting the reffing get to them
Have to get their compusure back and get back to possession
looks like jair marufo
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Another good touch by Noonan
Not to harp on it, but he has looked real sharp
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:50 PM PDT reply actions
I agree. He'll fit in nicely until Kufo shows.
And be a good help off the bench. Seems pretty clear he remembers Sigi’s system.
by magistermilitum on Apr 17, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
First-half thoughts
First 20+ minutes SSFC really controlled the pace. Vagenas looked good, during that time. Noonan looked real good during that time. Sounders could definitely have two goals. The second 20+ minutes were much more even, maybe even edging to KC’s advantage. No really serious challenges, but they were able to get their legs under them.
Vagenas had a couple ugly passes in that time, one of which led to KC’s best chance.
Overall, SSFC has been real tough with Smith. I think 02Coug is right about the refs getting to them. There have been some awful calls, but Zak can’t go touching the ref like that.
Your thoughts?
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:57 PM PDT reply actions
I thought he started strong
But really unraveled after about 20 minutes.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I did turn it on about the 20 min mark, so you can understand my comment
The defense has enough to deal with let alone a teammate who is giving away position in bad areas
N'kufo can't get here fast enough
We don’t really have anyone to target on long balls or corners. Montero and Ljungberg can get pushed out of position by stronger/larger defenders.
Yeah still can't finish
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Sometimes I wish they hadn't released the info about Kufo.
It leaves us waiting and wanting for three months until he gets here.
by magistermilitum on Apr 17, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Keller just bailed us out
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That's a dangerous free
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Looks like Marshall is going to stay out
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scratch that
he’s already back
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
this is ridiculous
this ref is awful
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Yeah, Jewsbury takes out Vagenas
and Vagenas gets the foul.
I cant believe this
MLS really needs to figure out their refs. The atmosphere here is getting bad.
by Brian Floyd on Apr 17, 2010 1:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
SEcond half has been awful
Maybe it’s the refs, but this has been hard to watch.
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KC has looked better defensively and worse offensively than I expected
And this has been a much less exciting game than I thought it would.
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We have done very little passing in the second half
Back to teh old punt and pray.
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Evans getting ready to come on for Vagenas?
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Nope, he takes out Noonan
I’m confused.f
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
He was probably off
OH well
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Kamara just tackled him
I think Arlo is being a little kind.
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Just feels like our best shots came early
If we settle for a scoreless tie, can’t help but feel frustrated.
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Way to be sporting KCW
Keep playing with a hurt player on the field. Real classy
Fucito for Zakuani
Here’s your chance kid.
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He actually looked a little tired
I’m wondering if Sigi knows something we don’t. Maybe Zakuani just isn’t fit for 90 mins.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Finally
The ref gives us a call.
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And another harmless service
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
YES!!!!!
Fucito of course.
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Honestly, I found this game to be pretty boring.
Only got exciting in stoppage time.
by magistermilitum on Apr 17, 2010 2:00 PM PDT reply actions
it was evans i think
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
That goal changes everything
I would have been the first to really start to question the overall plan here, but winning makes this a defensive effort to relish and allows us to forget about those early missed chances.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't really see why the goal changes everything
It was a lucky goal that caught KC off guard. Sure the defense looked good but our passing and creating was very sub par on the day.
Maybe I'm more forgiving
But I thought the big test coming in was how our defense would hold up and I thought for the most part we really neutralized their attack. Our passing looks sloppy, but I don’t see how you can just write off a win like that.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I just don't think we deserved to win, a draw would have been more reflective of how we played
To play that poorly on the offensive side at home in front of 36k supporters is almost embarrassing. We didn’t possess the ball very well, made errant passes, and couldn’t convert the chances we got until the very end. Starting with Vagenas and Alonso in the midfield was an interesting move by Sigi, too defensive in my mind especially at home. But the defense played very well I must admit, so we can hang on that. Hopefully the lift of winning in the last minute will spur us on and give confidence to the next game.
Fair enough
I’d still quibble with the idea that we didn’t deserve the win, but I agree our offense definitely needs to improve. I mean, I thought we outplayed them enough to justify feeling good about three points. Was it perfect? No. I thought this was a big improvement over last week in just about every aspect except finishing.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
How bad is it that our sub-par offense still appeared to be an improvement?
I felt like we possessed it better this week on the offensive side of things. We did peter out in the 2d half, and we weren’t too creative, but we definitely weren’t as pressed as we were against RSL.
by magistermilitum on Apr 17, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Totally agree
And there is obviously still work to do there.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Serious game of retribution
Fucito’s been dying for a chance, comes up big. Evans was the goat, and looked strong and had the game-winning throw-in. Keller, while he may or may not have erred on the play that gave the corner last week, was absolutely huge. Now the question becomes, how do you make more room for Fucito?
I really don’t think you take Noonan off, as this was his best game.
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Yeah Noonan played well
But it is nice to have Fucito breathing down his neck if he slips or there is an injury. Of course, Fucito looks pretty rosy after that goal.
by magistermilitum on Apr 17, 2010 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me expand
In the Non-MLS games, players that do well will get more minutes in the MLS games.
Maybe they make a nice platoon (to use a borrowed term)
Don’t know how much precedence there is for a move like that, but I for one wouldn’t mind seeing Noonan starting and then bringing Fucito on whenever we need a boost in the final 20-30 mins. Obviously, his extra gear is even more pronounced late in the game.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions
I need to check the schedule more closely
When is our first non-MLS game?
by magistermilitum on Apr 17, 2010 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't think it's scheduled yet
I’m pretty sure they haven’t released the schedule for next round of U.S. Open Cup.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions
For what it's worth
First round started June 9 last year.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Been waiting to see Fucito get some time
Maybe this will convince Sigi he’s worth more than 5 minutes!
Hope so
Would be hard to see how he justifies keeping him off the pitch now.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That shot was pretty incredible
To get it through Nielsen (who was in a good position to block) and to not shank it 30 yards high was impressive.
by chrisperry1983 on Apr 17, 2010 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a cheapy
Sure, he caught the defense off guard but we’ve seen much easier shots missed as recently as today.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 17, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm starting a post-game thread in case you want to take the conversation there
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Exactly
Good placement/run on his part too. It was cool to watch him bask in the glory after the game. Wish I coulda been there
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