Ref: Evans got 'unfair advantage' on goal
I'm not sure I would go as far as saying Paul Tambernio, the U.S. Director of Referee Development, is saying the deciding goal in Saturday's game shouldn't have been allowed, but in this week's roundup of MLS games he does acknowledge that all was not as it should have been.
"We feel that the Seattle player [Evans] got an unfair advantage on the throw-in," Tamberino said. "We always give our players a little bit of leeway on the point of the throw, two or three yards. But in this case it’s a good 12 to 15 yards advantage, and it’s an unfair advantage."The former MLS referee says Evans did not appear to intentionally deceive head referee Jair Marrufo and the refereeing crew. He noted that the player continued his run toward the touch line and received a ball from the Qwest field ball person in a split second.
Although the play was a byproduct of home-field advantage and it took place within seconds, it still should have been addressed by the man in the middle.
"The referee needs to be aware of where that ball went out and especially at that time of the game in the attacking third," Tamberino said. "The referee needs to take the lead there. The assistant referee knows that in the waning seconds of the game his focus needs to be on where that second to last defender is. So the onus comes on the referee."
I don't think this should come as a shock to anyone who saw the play. It's pretty obvious upon rewatching that Evans was no where near the point where the ball went out of bounds when he makes the throw. Of course, as Tamberino says, there really doesn't appear to have been anything purposeful or deceitful done on Evans' part. And more relevantly, in the run of play, it wasn't even immediately obvious just how much liberty Evans took on the throw-in because of the speed at which it all happened.
Although that replay doesn't show it, the key to sequence was Evans immediately looking for a ball and a hyper-alert ball person getting him one almost immediately. I would argue that where the throw-in occurred was probably less of a big deal than the speed with with it occurred. As soon as Evans crossed the byline, a ball was in his hands and almost as quickly he spotted Fucito.
I'm sure this will be interpreted by some as acknowledgement that the goal should not have been allowed. Tamberino doesn't exactly say that and I'm not sure that's how it should be interpreted, either. The goal may have been aided by unfair advantage, but if Fucito and Evans weren't in synch it never would have happened.
I don't think this is the fan in me speaking when I say Tamberino's statement hardly takes away from the actions of either player.
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I believe he is stating that the ref should have told Evans to move back to the spot of which the ball went out.
I think you're definitely right
Didn’t mean to imply he was questioning the speed of the throw-in was the issue.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 21, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions
They need to look at every other throw-in that takes place in the games
Throw-ins are constantly taken far away from where the ball went out. A running start, then stop, look around, then another few leaps and a throw easily could equal 10 yards. If they’re going to be critical of a throw that resulted in a goal, then they need to be critical of every other one that happens. Can’t be picky
Great point
And I think that’s why Tamberino stops short of saying the goal shouldn’t have been allowed.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 21, 2010 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions
The thing about this play was the ball was in Evan's hands and then he threw it
Often you see a player catch the ball for a throw in and the ref stops action and tells the player to move back. But in those instances, the player is holding the ball a lot longer than Evans had the ball. It was almost all in one motion.
I remember when it occurred I had originally thought it was Riley because Riley takes most of the throw ins. In other words, it happened so fast that I didn’t have time to comprehend that it was Evans that threw the ball.
My thought too
If they are not making that call the rest of the game, you can’t make it there either. The laws of the game are basically reinterpreted every time out by the man in the center and if that is how he set it up in the 10th minute, that is how you have to play it in the 90th.
by brokejumper on Apr 21, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
This happens all the time
like chrisperry1983 says they consistently take throw-ins at least 5-7 yds from where they go out all the time. They even start from 4-5 yds away and move. Refs pretty much never force the players to move back, and when they do the players just walk up farther again. The only reason anyone is looking at this twice is because Seattle scored a goal. If they didn’t score a goal I don’t believe anyone would have cared.
If Evans started to move forward from where he was I’d be a more inclined to move it back, but he just gets the ball and throws it in. I see no problem with it. People are going to whine and complain about everything (I know us sounders fans have about a lot of stuff) but if they wouldn’t have called it if nothing happened (and I don’t believe they would have) they shouldn’t have called it with a goal scored either.
stuff like this has a way of evening out over the course of the season
I think this was our lucky game when it comes to officiating. Well before our goal I thought Zakuani was extremely lucky to only get a yellow for putting his hands on the ref.
We’re bound to have a game down the road where we blame a loss or tie on the officials.
Last game, for instance
There’s still a big question in my mind whether RSL should have received the corner.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 21, 2010 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Good to see the acknowledgement of this at least
When this goal happened I was kind of wondering this myself. It all happened so fast that I just let it go but something just wasn’t right about the play. Of course, as a Wizards fan I’m much more likely to feel this way. Oh well, like someone said, hopefully these things even out over a season.
by I need more Esteban on Apr 21, 2010 10:54 AM PDT reply actions
My opinion
is he was trying to say the goal should not have been allowed. I think he was saying Evans did not do anything wrong, but the ref should not have allowed the throw in to happen. If the throw in was illegal then obviously he is saying the goal should not have been allowed. If the ref would have backed up Evans and then the same result would have ocurred then that would have been perfectly legal. Either way it was a nice play but a horrible mistake by the refs.

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