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Gamethread Match Day 5: Sounders at Dallas

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Today's lineup is going to be a bit odd, a twist on what was expected, or in this case, something no one expected. Dallas is a team that is in pure struggling mode. They stuggled on the pitch, and they struggle in the stands. The wonders of the Thursday 5PM start time have compressed things for me a bit, so today I'm getting you the keys to the game right in the gamethread.

1 - Sounders Coaching - Sigi has made a significant shift to the lineup and this will be a test not just for the players inserted, but also of the coaching staff. The offense that is appearing has little time together, and so the knowledge fo the system will be more important than anything else. With a shift like this it will also be important to see how long a leash the coaches give the players.

With the game at Toronto coming up shortly the bench in both matches is likely to get more time. We could see a 55 minute sub, and are nearly certain to see two subs by the 75th minute. One of those subs will need to be for a regular starter if they are to be expected to go significant minutes against the Reds.

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2 - Midfield Control - The two overlapping lineups create potential for either, or both, teams to flood the midfield, or just give up on controlling that and trying for the long ball game. Only Dallas' Cunningham won't get back, and both of their wingbacks come forward quite a bit. Seattle is very similar at times, though sometimes the wide mids for Seattle just play as forwards.

Positionally this could mean that Seattle will have only Alonso and Evans in the central third with no space because the Hoops flood the area with five players. Or it could mean that both sides flood the central third and we will have to see a lot of 10 yard passes to break through the clutter. I don't expect to see either side with one of the dozen plus shot games with seven corners. This will be a midfield battle.

3 - Defensive Awareness - Coming right out of that will mean that there will be occaissional long balls poked out of the midfield scrum. If a side has a centerback caught napping that will almost certainly wind up a goal. But let's also remember that defensive mistakes by the Sounders on two set-plays left 3 points sitting on the table. Two errors are the difference between Seattle being one of many and clearly the second best team in the league.

A road win here, even against a generally perceived as weak Dallas, will help establish Seattle as a contender rather than just another Playoff side.

Notes

ESPN2 has the game in the rare time that Seattle is on the road. No radio tonight, if you want Arlo White you will have to stream on MyNorthWest.com.

Fucito's availability is a game-time decision.

BayAreaRefugee is at the George & Dragon. I'm watching at home as your host for the gamethread.

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So thoughts on Estrada and Levesque as starters tonight?

This is the first match with significant time with the Freddyain not on the pitch at the same time. It is also a bit of a risk.

It will also be a significant test of a rookie on the road, but a fairly soft start considering it is Dallas

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 4:34 PM PDT reply actions  

I can hope

but only hoping at this point

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I bet we see

Noonan and Freddie with Fucito on the left.

by blakec on Apr 22, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Levesque comes off at 60' for the number 10.

That’s what I’m hoping for. And that Estrada finds the net.

He didn't go.

by BUCKETSinSB on Apr 22, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ideally we don't need to use Ljungberg today

because that would mean a nice lead with guys like Vagenas, Sturgis and Noonan coming on

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like this also.

But 30 minutes shouldn’t be too much. Get his passing practice in.

He didn't go.

by BUCKETSinSB on Apr 22, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

New opening line ups

Starters: Kasey Keller, James Riley, Tyrone Marshall, Jhon Kennedy Hurtado, Leo Gonzalez, David Estrada, Brad Evans, Osvaldo Alonso, Steve Zakuani, Roger Levesque, Fredy Montero. Subs: Terry Boss, Pat Noonan, Pat Ianni, Tyson Wahl, Peter Vagenas, Nathan Sturgis and Freddie Ljungberg.

by blakec on Apr 22, 2010 4:35 PM PDT reply actions  

How sad that ESPN's lead-in is about attendance

and not the state of the team

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Come on down folks

Plenty of good seats still available in Dallas. Ouch

by blakec on Apr 22, 2010 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

more people here?

seattle pubs will outdraw pizza hut park

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 22, 2010 5:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

posting mobile

excited to see how estrada performs. also interested to see how mobile posting works. maybe i dont need laptop

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 22, 2010 5:03 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

it worked

Of course you are excited to see Mr Salinas

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can’t rec posts on the mobile version

by MMAWrestling on Apr 22, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Awful pass by Alonso

I’m stunned that didn’t get turned into an opportunity for FC Dallas

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:10 PM PDT reply actions  

this is sad

camera is extra tight i think to avoid crowd

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 22, 2010 5:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

3 minutes with a wasted free kick

wise for Evans to go to Alonso, but his shot was ineffective

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

5th minute and they force Sala to use his feet

Montero’s pass to Levesque was solid

Seattle really controlling the middle third, and their attacking third right now.

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Not a fan of booting hail marys to zak.

I’d rather they play it through on the turf to him.

He didn't go.

by BUCKETSinSB on Apr 22, 2010 5:20 PM PDT reply actions  

12th minute

a series of physical play on both sides

It would be nice if when on the near touchline they would let us see the ball.

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:21 PM PDT reply actions  

14th minute

Keller with a solid stop there, but Dallas has threatened regularly of late.

Seattle’s back line has started punting it rather than playing with purpose.

Solid refereeing from Vaughn

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:24 PM PDT reply actions  

17th minute

Marshall’s pass without purpose leads to a Dallas threat.

They need to play with purpose, not just randomly knock it about.

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:26 PM PDT reply actions  

18th minute corner for Dallas

and no mistakes by Seattle.

McCarthy’s re-insert was well played. I still like him as a player.

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:27 PM PDT reply actions  

21st and Marshall gets a Caution

and I agree with the broadcast

He did nothing to deserve that card.

Oooh, ESPN has the 10 yard circle.

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

23rd minute

Montero’s play there was solid, but Seattle wastes his holding and pass.

Dallas with a quick turn around and run through the midfield.

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:33 PM PDT reply actions  

If that was a denial of goal

it requires a card.

If it wasn’t it can’t be a PK

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a foul in the box

Does that have to be a card? A card on Keller for a tackle if so?

by 02Coug on Apr 22, 2010 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

sure it can

just has to be a foul that would result in a direct kick inside the 18 to be a PK.

by PeterJH on Apr 22, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

it was a call on the last defender in front of the goal

which is a card anywhere on the pitch

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

on an obvious goal scoring opportunity a foul that would result in a direct kick is a red card

Evidently the ref didn’t think it was an obvious goal scoring opportunity. That doesn’t mean it can’t be a PK.

by PeterJH on Apr 22, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

27th minute and Cunningham converts

and then climbs in the stands…. rulebook?

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:36 PM PDT reply actions  

so weak

did they call that on hurtado?

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 22, 2010 5:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

with the light yellow on Marshall

No yellow on Keller and than no yellow on that dangerous kick to Zak’s head, the ref seems to be completely random at the moment.

by 02Coug on Apr 22, 2010 5:40 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

i turned it off cause i don’t want to get POed at the game. And my mom hates that when i do.

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 5:41 PM PDT reply actions  

32nd minute

still with too many long hopeful passes rather than those with purpose

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:41 PM PDT reply actions  

did seattle even get a shot yet?

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pathetic. I’m sorry but Seattle won’t go far if they don’t get the bloody midfield going.

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Small and standing around

If you’re small, you have to move to create space. You can’t just sit there and be physically dominated.

by blakec on Apr 22, 2010 5:43 PM PDT reply actions  

35th minute

Estrada had a good thought, but just didn’t quite get the touch on that pass. Otherwise that was one of the better moments

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

maybe wishful thinking

i think estrada has looked pretty good.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 22, 2010 5:50 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

nice

I’d call that against the run of play.

by blakec on Apr 22, 2010 5:47 PM PDT reply actions  

39th minute

Zakuani goes all by himself, and just proves how good he is with the ball at his feet

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:48 PM PDT reply actions  

words I never want to hear

Boss is up

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh that’s not good. IF Keller comes out i think Seattle is pretty much have little chance of winning this game i hope i am prove wrong.

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

46th minute

Gonzales with a good run, and Sounders retreat

How do they waste that by passing backwards so often?

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Halftime Thoughts

The Sounders haven’t been strong enough in the center third, and showed some poor decision making defensively. Dallas could have three right now.

Zakuani’s run was quite strong and was a solid goal. But besides that the Sounders just haven’t taken control of the ball like they should with this talent.

Estrada has had some pretty moments, but isn’t connecting well with his ’mates.

Neither Levesque nor Montero have played well and with Montero carrying a Yellow that may adjust the substitute pattern.

More frustrating though is the idea that Keller may need to come out. He has made some contact with Dallas players, and is a little slower than usual. At least Boss should get the full half to loosen up if he’s needed.

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

And that worries me if we’ll be forced to use a sub especially on GK and especially how weak our mid has been today.

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except that the bench has Vagenas, Sturgis, Noonan and Ljungberg

so it isn’t as if there are 3 subs that could strengthen the midfield attack.

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I just don’t like when we have to waste a sub due to injury or what like that.

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

too true

but it has no relation to the midfield problems

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

My point was if boss comes in and i never seen boss play before that the midfield problems would put more pressure on the back line and boss to keep the ball from going into the back of the net.

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

levesque has been invisible

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 22, 2010 6:05 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

spoke too soon

i liked invisble better

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 22, 2010 6:14 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Well at least he's Boss!

Zakuani’s run was quite strong.

What happened there Roger?

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Man, Roger.

I don’t know what’s going on.

by Postureduck on Apr 22, 2010 6:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Joshua at times says Keller subbed out due to vision issue of some sort.

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 6:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I hope he’ll be fine for Saturday.

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

46-48th minute

Dallas shows ball control in the final third and doesn’t manage to threaten

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Montero?!?!

Don’t look at the f*%king flag, just make a run and stick it in the net.

by 02Coug on Apr 22, 2010 6:17 PM PDT reply actions  

51st minute

don’t look for the flag Montero, just make the RUN!

The whistle will tell you to stop. AWFUL

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:18 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m starting to lose faith in montero.

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 6:21 PM PDT reply actions  

55th minute

This free kick from distance is amazing

That was sick!

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:21 PM PDT reply actions  

retribution

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 22, 2010 6:22 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

59th minute

Estrada fought for that one quite well.
His effort got the deep corner.
Solid play earns a corner.

but ineffective

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Should see a sub soon

Both Ljungberg and Noonan were warming up earlier, but they’d come on for the goalscorers, which would be an odd signal to the team

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:27 PM PDT reply actions  

that was a late flag

to the Sounders advantage, but I still don’t like the lateness, even though correct

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Seattle's second half has been solid so far

passing with purpose, good defense, and that center third has been more in Seattle’s favor

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:33 PM PDT reply actions  

71st minute

Riley and Montero with some good interplay, but Montero gets stuck in the end.

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Sounders supporters chants must be miked

because I only hear them clearly, everything else is random noise

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:40 PM PDT reply actions  

My guess is they are at an end

And often there are field mics near the corner spots. So that mic might be picking up their chants, and the director is just going with it.

by 02Coug on Apr 22, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

78th minute and Ljungberg comes on

in for Montero which should add some offense, ball handling and possession

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Hurtado with a mistaken pass there

that winds up as a corner

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:50 PM PDT reply actions  

two fouls from behind in a row are uncalled

Vaughn just lost control of the game

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:50 PM PDT reply actions  

and a foul against Seattle

gets a Yellow for Dallas?

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

that made zero sense.

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by iced on Apr 22, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

retaliation or something?

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

none that I saw. The guy was on the ground with the ball between his legs.
Maybe there was something that happened away from the camera

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by iced on Apr 22, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well sometimes the ref decides to wait till the play was called dead and carded someone for something earlier.

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

no

The Dallas player trapped the ball between his own thighs while on the ground and was called for dangerous play, but the ref didn’t notice until Leo fouled him.

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

where are some good places to watch Sounders games?

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by iced on Apr 22, 2010 6:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Added time is indicated at 3 minutes

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:57 PM PDT reply actions  

World Cup cannot get here soon enough

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by iced on Apr 22, 2010 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

omg.
penalty kick

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by iced on Apr 22, 2010 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Dallas, where penalites are given

not earned

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by Dave Clark on Apr 22, 2010 6:59 PM PDT reply actions  

bullshit.

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by iced on Apr 22, 2010 6:59 PM PDT reply actions  

fuck that shit.

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by iced on Apr 22, 2010 7:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Ok, so that was a shit ending.
But its our fault for letting him in the box and not getting it out.

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by iced on Apr 22, 2010 7:01 PM PDT reply actions  

gah

just…gahhh that was ugly

by Jerikantilles on Apr 22, 2010 7:02 PM PDT reply actions  

the story of the sounders in MLS. getting royally screwed over by the refs

by majora999 on Apr 22, 2010 7:04 PM PDT reply actions  

And this is what happens when your team gets sloppy. I blame the draw on sloppy.

by gstommylee on Apr 22, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

FUCK YOU MLS REF!!!

He kicked it to the goalie. Then got hit.

He didn't go.

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