Five for Fighting: Battle for a Starting Spot
Roger Levesque has started the past two matches on the Right Wing, and Pat Noonan came on with a decent performance for a man just cut from the Rapids. But the competition for that spot in the starting lineup goes deeper, it goes five deep in fact. There are justifications for each and every one of these players. Each has their own skills, their own talents and we can all only guess at which one is the right one to start this weekend in Sandy, Utah vs RSL.
Three players that were on the club last year. Four players that have time with Sigi. Three players under the age of 25. All converted forwards. One with a grand legacy with the earlier version of the Sounders. Another with a brief cameo with the same organization. The Fourth Round pick from 2009 and the First Round pick from 2010. The young kids have 5 goals and 4 assists in only two Reserve Matches.
These Five for Fighting, not the band, deserve your scrutiny and they are certainly getting Sigi's as well.Its not easy, but with the offensive woes there is no spot on the club that is more up in the air than this one starting role, and the three offensive players who will be on the bench.
Let's look at them each in short and discuss who should be the starter, and who belongs on the bench.
Roger Levesque: This is a man with a great soccer IQ, a work rate that impresses and of the five is certainly the strongest defensive player. He has a penchant for scoring in matches that matter, and is a supporters favorite. His footskills and speed are a bit lacking compared the rest, and he's been on the edge of MLS for several years.
Pat Noonan: He brings a veteran presence and is someone who knows Sigi's system as well as any. Again not technically proficient he is another converted forward, and is #20 in the active scoring list for the league. He has won a major trophy and plays taller than his listed height.
Sanna Nyassi: Recently showing much stronger on ball skills, Nyassi is most well known for his speed. His passing seems to have improved from the past two season, but we have yet to see if his shot has improved. Like many Sounders a smaller player. His primary use with Sounders FC has been as a late sub to exploit the tired opposition.
David Estrada: You just read a ton about him. But to condense, his technical skills are strong, but he has to learn when to use them. He has been the best player on the field for most of his life and is busy making the shift to the team game that the Sounders play. Fast, but probably only third in this group, Estrada offers another strong with the ball at his feet option, but he takes risks that the Sounders can't afford at this time.
Mike Fucito: He's become well known on this blog as a pure scorer in scrimmages and reserve games. Andrew Winner over at MLSsoccersoccersoccer.com shares that his second goal against the still fresh Huskies "he took a quickly moving pass, knocked it into the air, and sent a topspin volley into the net in one fluid motion." Fucito is fast, plays much taller than his listed height winning headers in crowds. And while he may not have the strongest dribbling skills, he just scores, has solid vision and adds a ton of speed.
Again, each has certain strengths. There are varying levels of speed, technical ability and tactical knowledge. All may open up the offense, but Sigi has to look for the right equation this weekend to answer the elevation and the very strong Real Salt Lake side.
Chances are when said and done
Who'll be the lucky ones
Who make it all the way?
Though you say I could be your answer
Nothing lasts forever
No matter how it feels today
Chances are we´ll find a new equation
Chances roll away from me
Chances are all they hope to be
Maybe this is the time to take a chance, a risk and change that equation and unlock some youthful position.
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I only voted once by the way
But I think everyone knows where I’m leaning.
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Ok, we know that Fucito has a soft place in your heart
But, who would be next on your list?
I think there is a distinct strength for having the fastest and fittest players
Especially when traveling to Salt Lake and Denver (or Sandy and Commerce as is actual). LIke everyone I see the finishing issues. I also think that there is a need to understand Sigi’s system and the team.
For me the top three right now are Fucito, Levesque and Nyassi. Noonan gets to travel as he’s a vet, but I can’t think of starting him at Salt Lake.
Estrada I would leave behind.
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Noonan
Noonan just feels like the grass is greener candidate. We know more about the other options and we know their limitations. Noonan has lots of limitations too, but we aren’t as familar so we want him instead.
by blakec on Apr 7, 2010 8:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'd really like to get a response from one of these Noonan fans
Because I want to know what they are seeing
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I voted for Noonan
I guess I just see a MLS veteran who, as far as I’ve seen, still has some skill. Honestly, I would be happy to see Fucito, Nyassi or Estrada. It just seems like if we’re going to bother having Noonan on the team, we may as well see what he has to offer. Don’t think he’s up for 90 minutes, though. Would have no problem seeing him subbed out in the second half. I really think Levesque is a better fit as a sub.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 7, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sometimes I wonder.....
if I’m living on a different planet or just plain out to lunch. What do I see in Noonan? A 3 time all-star who had eye-popping numbers before his knee injury. A guy who has been in the league for 8 years, knows the territory and has proven time and again that he can not only score, but make the critical pass that leads to a score. For you to say he has limited skills shows how very little you know about the guy—there is perhaps no niftier wing player in the league than Noonan, using a variety of feints, jukes, step-overs, megs to completely befuddle the defender. Highly accruate cross. Can score with his foot and leg. Where Noonan is a little deficient is in speed. He used to be surprisingly quick and had strong wheels. Since the knee injury, he just doesn’t seem to have that little bit of separation that used to be there.
So yes, Noonan. Levesque? It’s time to let go guys and you’re seriously daft if you think this guy is ever going to be more than a marginal bench player for any team in MLS (and, yes, I DID love the guy prior to MLS). If I had to forego Noonan, I’d go with Nyassi. Again, are you daft thinking of playing rookies in a starting line-up for the Sounders? That may work for nearly any other team in the league, but certainly not ours. Fucito would get torn a new one by the far more skillful and savvy mids in this league. Estrada is not even close yet. Clean up duty is the best these two should see this season and some open cup starts. If we have to start either of them, we’re in serious, serious trouble.
by swansuite on Apr 8, 2010 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is an interesting point
Sigi is the anti coach for rookies.
very valid point... AND... ridiculous statement
swansuite, i have full appreciation for the comments you make regarding noonan. clearly a solid player overall. great history of performance. and you also acknowledge his speed fall-off, due to injury.
however, this statement, to use your words, is just plain “daft” on your part: “Fucito would get torn a new one by the far more skillful and savvy mids in this league.”
i would suggest refraining from drawing this type of conclusion until you’ve seen him play for some significant mins. i’m sure you would agree that freddie ljungberg is a fairly good judge of talent. might i suggest you pay attention to the remarks he’s made concerning Fucito in the media. here’s one from his own blog:
http://freddie.speaksup.com/2010/03/26/first-game-of-the-season-is-over-and-it-feels-great/
you clearly need further education on how explosive and talented this guy is. i wouldn’t call scoring the 1st 2 goals in 1 half against the Sounders starters in the final preseason game “being torn a new one”.
let me ask you. what does Fucito run the 40 in? don’t know do you? 4.38. you’ll see some separation the likes of noonan could only dream of pre-injury. please keep your mind open for the time being. there’s going to be some defenders on the field instead experiencing “some tearing”…
by roadrunner11 on Apr 8, 2010 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I hear you
but speed is over-rated, especially in a league that has some pretty fast defenders overall. The problem isn’t that Fucito isn’t fast, strong, or a good finisher, it’s that the pace of the game would simply render his running game moot, imo. Even Zak had to learn to use the little hesitate and cut to actually utilize his speed (who has to be in the 4.4 range himself). Yes, I do think he’d get torn a new one, not because he isn’t a stellar athlete, but because the speed of the game would mostly lose him. Better to go with Nyassi who has a much better sense of what to expect at this level.
Fucito looked good last week. But it was in a game that was all but over. NY didn’t know him from Adam. If they knew he was playing, they expect the speed and neutralize it by playing off him. Then what? Perhaps a nice finish—ain’t sayin’ it can’t happen, just that I’d rather go with the odds on this one and start the veteran and bring Nyassi off the bench to spell him. Fucito? Get him into more reserve games and, if appropriate (and it sounds like it might be), give him some starts in the Open Cup and see where that leads. One step at a time. I know it doesn’t sound like it, but I really do like Fucito…. I just want to see him ripen a bit more.
How many successful reserve games does a guy need?
He’s got over a dozen
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oops
meant “omniscience”. my apologies for my own proofreading/typo…
you just contradicted yourself, and...
…you have zero basis/facts for your declarative conclusions on how he’d perform in an MLS game if he started. plus he played against Philly, not NY (learn to proof your facts). you’ve clearly had no first-hand exposure to or understanding of what his asset portfolio comprises. you’ve only seen him play once for 15 mins. and i believe you said “he looked good”. swansuite, you just don’t know, but you won’t admit it. it’s ok, you won’t be the first to defend ego at all costs.
you said: “the pace of the game would simply render his running game moot”
again, way to back up your argument with facts… oh, i guess you really didn’t, did you!! i look foward to your next audacious statement, which i’m sure will result (like this one) in some self-tearing, given the origin.
if you don’t mind, i’ll take freddie’s opinion of Fucito’s game over yours any day…and his college coach who played for years in the MLS as well. i think he also knows what it takes to succeed at this level. AND charlie davies’ too, btw. you’ve heard of him right?
but feel free to post your own soccer resume confirming your omnscience~
Apparently talking smack about Fucito here
is like praising Jaqua everywhere else.
Of course, I want to see Fucito get significant minutes. I think he’d do fine, but I think he could have a yellow card problem if he got a lot of minutes. He sometimes seems a little too tenacious.
by Cornchops on Apr 8, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yes, sometimes...
… he is too tenacious. sense it will not be as big a concern once he sees the field regularly.
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But for some reason I like being seen as a bit of a ‘pro’ site than ‘anti’
Of course later this week Graham will write about home the Sounders should just play with 10 men and no Right Mid whatsoever. ;)
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take a risk
Fucito. Fucito. Doesn’t have Noonan’s experience, but who really cares? Why was Noonan really released? And not just from CO? Forget the Sounders spin. There’s no contest vs Levesque and Estrada. He’s uncoverable. Have you actually seen his explosiveness??? Apples and oranges. To be fair to Nyassi, he’s never been given significant minutes. So it has to be between those 2, and my sense is Fucito makes better decisions with the ball.
And hasn’t Ljungberg essentially said as much to the Press???
What’s really the risk?? Sigi’s decisions regarding offensive personnel haven’t exactly been close since LeToux and Levesque… I’ll say it again, Fucito!!!
Fittest for sure
Fast is nice, but the reality is that it will be fitness that will be tested in Sandy this weekend, playing at altitude is tough and there simply is no way to get adjusted in a day. So bringing the fittest players to start has to be a priority, having someone like a Noonan who can come in late and provide some energy and fresh legs will be important. Even during the All Star Match last year, you could tell that Ljungberg was struggling, this early in the season, I expect him to be sucking wind by the 75th minute.
I am looking forward to having a good number of fans from Seattle show up, it should be a great matchup of two teams expected to be the top of the Western Conference.
by denz on Apr 7, 2010 8:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Noonan or Fucito.
I have no problem with either. I’d probably like to just see what Noonan can do if given the starter roll, but if Sigi decides to go with Fucito instead I have no problem with that (and I think there’s a lot more upside to Fucito than Noonan).
Now with more lemon bars!
by Fear on Apr 7, 2010 9:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Great writeup, this is good stuff
FYI, Fucito is left-footed and hasn’t seen any time on the right… but never say never…
True Fucito has a very strong left foot
There are a few mitigating circumstances though One would first note that Zakuani is right-footed and plays on the left, following the trend that has emerged that Jonathon Wilson recently called "wrong sided wingers."
Two, would be that Noonan had almost zero MLS experience on the right side. He was a left mid and up top striker for his previous MLS stints, and yet with almost no experience on the right, that was where he got his first use with Sounders.
Third, the team’s offensive four interchange quite a bit. Last match we saw Montero in each forward and wing role. We saw Zakuani in the Withdrawn Forward and both Wings, same with Ljungberg. Levesque went up top and at both wide positions as well. Every offensive player on this team has seen time in practice or scrimmages in every role, but certainly not as their primary.
Lastly, there could be a shift of either of the Freddyain to the Right Wing if Sigi truely decides that Fucito is the answer, or Noonan really, and place him up top.
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My preference
would be Freddie on the right. Then, in this order, up top: Fucito, Noonan, Roger, Nyassi.
Estrada is the most fit of any. He should come.
by Cornchops on Apr 8, 2010 9:24 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Estrada won the beep test
Fucito won the 30
both were in top 5 on team in each
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vertical
Fucito also had the highest vertical jump.
Fucito's left foot
It’s his dominant leg, but his right leg is very strong. He’s very balanced. And coming across from the wing actually favors his shot-making. No problem crossing with his right leg…
It is notable that neither of the leaders in this poll are "natural" Right Wings
Noonan has been an up top striker/target forward type with much more time on the left.
Fucito’s high school and college days had him as the target forward or a paired center forward with Charlie Davies and Andre Akpan, and has some time with the Sounders on the left.
I think this is a prime example that positions and roles are highly flexible, and yet each player must know where they should be within the flow of the game.
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Guys named Roger
I used to live next door to Roger Davies and I am a huge Levesque fan. I WANT him to earn playing time more than any other person on the team, but no….he just isn’t cutting it. It was so much better with Noonan in there.
Hopefully Levesque will win us another US Open Cup.
I like Nyassi because of his speed and he is playing better. I don’t have an opinion on the young guys, but if Fucito can score, play him. We are all sick of needing a ball to bounce to quick/opportunistic Montero as our main method of scoring.
I think a complicated decision boils down to scoring – the club is having problems scoring and 1 player on this list has shown a knack for scoring almost every time he’s seen the pitch (granted, he’s only had one actual MLS appearance): Fucito. I tend to think Sigi will start a vet like Levesque or Noonan and put one of the younger players on as a sub, but I’d like to see Fucito out there with a lot of time to work with. The guy seems to just have a nose for the goal and the Sounders could use a few.
Alternately, I also like Fucito as a sub in the 60th or 70th minute for Montero if he’s having one of those games where he just disappears.
Weird
Anyone else find it weird that Sigi always subs out Zakuani. I felt like he was the one guy going to score in the NY game, but still was subbed out. What was Montero doing ? Pretty close to nothing.
I love Levesque
and want so bad for him to succeed, but I think his role is to be a sub when people are tiring. He can provide a spark later in the game. As far as starters go, I would really like to see Fucito start. I don’t know enough about Noonan, other than he has a solid past prior to injury. Nyassi is another underrated player, he was one of the best values in the league last season only making 20 grand and having the amount of skill he has. Estrada’s time will come. Just not quite yet.
Fucito
I thought Fucito looked pretty dangerous in his short stint against Philly. He should have had a goal if it weren’t for a handball in the box. I’d like to see him get some more time. Estrada looked ok in the last game. He didn’t have enough of the ball for me to judge though. Levesque needs to not start anymore. His attitude is awesome and he made some good goals last year off the bench but he did not look good at all these first two games.
Reserve games should not be taken as indicators of individual skill
I remember when MLS had their old reserve division before 2009, some of the players who routinely tore it up were guys such as Jamil Walker and Chris Wondolowski and Ryan Pore. What do they all have in common? None of them are MLS starting talent.
Yes, of course Fucito is a different type of player. But he’s also essentially the last man on the roster and has played under 15 minutes in his MLS career. Let’s go a bit easy before we anoint him as the savior of our offense. If you want someone with speed and potential to play on the right wing, Sanna should be your guy.
Sanna still needs to realize
that he has 10 other players on the field that are on his team.
It's something he has to get better at, for sure
He looked pretty good and was linking up with teammates much better in the Philly game. Not so much last week, although to be fair everyone looked pretty crap in the late second half. Jury’s still out on how much he has (or hasn’t) improved.
I'm not sure what you saw in the Philly game....
but I don’t think I saw Nyassi pass once. He shot a couple times and attempted to run at defenders, but almost no teamwork from what I saw. I was way more impressed with Fucito in the Philly game than Nyassi.
fair enough
just give both Nyassi and Fucito some relevant minutes. do what they’ve done for Levesque. you won’t need to even come close to those allocated to Letoux last year, and then you’ll know enough…
My mouse made a weird jump move.
I meant to hit Fucito and it shifted me up to Estrada. Count another in the Fucito camp.
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by Kirsten Schlewitz on Apr 9, 2010 8:02 AM PDT reply actions
Joshua Mayers just tweeted the travel roster
Of the “Five for Fighting”
Noonan, Levesque and Fucito
I expect all to get minutes Saturday, and if you’ve seen our reference card I expect Noonan to get the start.
Wahl, Sturgis, Ianni, Boss also mentioned. Yes, there was one of the 18 missed.
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