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Where it all went wrong

Hopefully, Tyrone Marshall and his  Sounders teammates can learn from their mistakes against the Galaxy.

Now that we've had a few days to let Saturday's loss digest, I figured it was a good time to take a final look at Saturday's game.

Most of what I found won't be much of a surprise: Peter Vagenas had a really bad day, the game really fell apart after Osvaldo Alonso went out and the Galaxy absolutely dominated the second half.

I did find one strand of silver lining, though. Prior to Alonso's injury, even during the roughly 10-minute stretch between the Galaxy score and Alonso's leaving, the Sounders honestly looked like the better team.

It wasn't just that they possessed the ball -- of that it was blatantly obvious -- it was that they actually created several very good scoring opportunities.

A combination of good plays by Galaxy goalkeeper Donovan Ricketts, a very questionable offsides call and good, old-fashioned near misses combined to send the Sounders into the half without a goal.

The second half was another story. While Alonso had allowed the team to control the midfield, his absence was apparent almost immediately. By the time Omar Gonzalez scored a perfectly placed header off a corner kick in the 52nd minute, the Galaxy had already started to take control of the match.

The final two goals of the match were simply ugly displays of defense, ones which I hope we can simply chalk up to frustration over a match that had started so promising and ended up so deflating.

Star-divide

Before the game began to unravel, though, there were some highlights.

The clearest scoring opportunity came in the 14th minute when Freddie Ljungberg chipped a ball to Fredy Montero who had gotten well free of his mark inside the box. 

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As the picture above pretty clearly shows, Montero (top right hand side of the box) was a good step or two onside when Ljungberg delivered his pass. What I think fooled the referee (and the LA announcers, for that matter) was the fact that Ljungberg's floating ball stayed so long in the air and the Galaxy defenders had so committed to the offsides trap that Montero was a good five or six yards beyond the closest defender when he finally got the ball at his feet.

If the play had been properly called, he had Brad Evans sitting wide open in front of the goal with what should have been the easiest goal of the season.

(Hopefully this is not interpreted as an excuse for the loss, as I'll show, the Sounders had other chances to score and made plenty of legitimate mistakes that ultimately cost them this game. The point of highlighting this was to show that the Sounders actually were looking pretty good early in the match.)

In the 18th minute, Montero once again found himself with space behind the Galaxy defense, this time on a nice pass from Vagenas. Montero fires a one-touch volley, but Ricketts is able make the save and a Galaxy defender is able to beat Evans to the rebound and knock it out of bounds.

Shortly after the Jovan Kirovski score, the Sounders had another strong scoring chance when Steve Zakuani made a nice play to win a ball on the edge of the penalty area. Zakuani then left a pass for the charging Alonso, whose shot was fired just over the crossbar.

Finding these nuggets of optimism took a little looking, admittedly. Unfortunately, it was much easier to pinpoint the mistakes that led to three of the Galaxy's four goals (I really couldn't find much that could have been done differently to prevent Gonzalez's goal).

Most of the blame for Kirovski's goal has already been accepted by Kasey Keller. The world-class keeper probably makes that save 98 out of 100 times -- there were no players around him, he had a clear look at the ball, he was able to get both of his hands on it -- but that doesn't necessarily mean he was totally at fault.

How Kirovski was able to get that clean of a look also deserves some examination.

The sequence starts innocently enough with Ricketts launching one of his trademark kicks all the way to the opposing penalty area. The ball gets loose and Alonso is forced to kick out of bounds.

The throw-in occurs only a few yards in front of the centerline, but makes it all the way to Landon Donovan who is standing about 10 yards outside penalty area. He touches it back to Michael Stephens, who then drops it back to Kirovski who is already on a run toward the goal. Kirovski is able to get the ball in space and fires a shot before even having to dribble.

The breakdown here is probably with Vagenas, who appears to be the man marking Kirovski. Vagenas is late picking up Kirovski as he starts his run just after the throw-in and is never able to catch up, allowing Kirovski an unobstructed look at the goal.

Although Vagenas also appears to be the man Gonzalez beats on the corner, I really don't think there was much he could have done about that one. Gonzalez has about nine inches and 50 pounds on the 5-8, 160-pound Vagenas, and Gonzalez uses every inch of his height to get that ball. 

The third goal is probably the one that Vagenas most regrets. Donovan has a free kick from just outside the left corner of the penalty area. He sends a ball into the box where Todd Dunivant is able to get free of his mark and score the goal.

Either Tyrone Marshall or Jhon Kennedy Hurtado were responsible for Dunivant, but what allowed the ball to get there was Vagenas essentially whiffing on his attempt to head the ball out. There's probably blame enough for all three players, but it would be understandable for Vagenas to feel most culpable.

By the time Donovan scores his team's fourth goal of the match, the Sounders had started to look like a beaten team. This play was perfectly indicative of that kind of mood.

Edson Buddle and Marshall are fighting for a ball along the sideline. The ball appears like it might be heading out of bounds and Marshall seems to give up on the ball. Buddle does not.

The Galaxy striker is able to control the ball, make a couple nifty dribbling moves and thread a pass through Marshall and Leo Gonzalez toward a streaking Donovan, who has gotten free of Hurtado. The pass hits Donovan in stride and he easily pokes it past Keller for the game's final goal.

Hopefully, the Sounders are able to learn from this match in general. More specifically, I would hope that there's something to be learned in how several of these goals developed. One of them was the result of a great offensive play, another was the result of a mistake. The other two, though, were examples of what can happen when players allow their concentration to slip even a little. 

I hope the other thing people get out of this is the fact that as lopsided as the score was, the Sounders were not dominated physically. Three of these goals were preventable, and the Sounders had the better play in the first half. If this team needed a wakeup call, I imagine this game serves that purpose. There's ample evidence to suggest that this team is capable of far better play, and hardly worth giving up on.

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Sooooo close!

doesn’t win games. Nor does falling apart, or having mental lapses.

Man I’m a Debbie Downer today. Work sucks this week. I need to win the lottery or something and be a ball boy for the team.

by chrisperry1983 on May 12, 2010 2:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Officiating

Are we the victims of unusually harsh officiating? It seems like we’ve been hamstrung by bad officiating in at least 3 games this year. I hate to blame the refs, but it’s getting pretty ridiculous.

by Ruben Pagan on May 12, 2010 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

offside

I used your clip in the MLS Referee Reform group. Hope you don’t mind. If you have others pix or clips, please feel free to post them there. We gotta call attention to how crappy the MLS refs are and how little they get paid.

by Alex Golubev on May 12, 2010 3:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't mind at all

Happy my work can do some good. I do want to point out again, though, that I don’t think the refs cost us this game in anyway. There were some bad calls, but what cost us the game was some seriously bad mistakes.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 12, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have to play on the edge of offsides

We get offsides calls because we can’t run down the channels shoulder to shoulder with defenders and expect our guys to win a physical battle to get a header. So, we have to catch guys wrong footed to get an advantage. Unfortunatly the refs in this league have proven time and time again that they can’t make the close call and just use “gut reaction” as the standard for calling offsides. IE, if the guy looks offsides by the time I’m looking then he must have been offsides.

MLS refs have watched a physical low skill game for years and they are used to it. They aren’t ready for a game that has precision timed runs in it. They just assume that if a guy is 5 yards behind the defense, he must have been offsides, because there is no way anyone could time runs and have the pass delivered at the right moment.

But all of that wouldn’t be needed if we could win a physical battle somewhere near the goal. We just get pushed around too much. So many of our goals given up have come from an attacker just beating a defender 1 v 1 near the goal. When was the last time you felt that happened with a Sounder on attack?

The closest we’ve come this season was when Nyassi threw down the defender in the Columbus game and Montero put home the shot. Of course that’s a foul.

by blakec on May 12, 2010 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

I think you're totally right

I seriously don’t have the patience to go back through all the game film, but every game I get the clear impression that we lose the vast majority of 50/50 balls. It’s not bad position, or not wanting it enough, I really think it’s the most obvious area where we are lacking — a legitimate physical presence.

The Gonzalez goal was a perfect example. Our guys did absolutely nothing wrong. There guy did everything right. We had no hope of stopping that play because we just don’t have anyone that can match up with a player like that.

Maybe we’ll never win those battles, but at some point we need to score a few ugly goals.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 12, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

A properly fed pass to the feet

is just as effective on a play with defender and foward running shoulder to shoulder.

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by Dave Clark on May 12, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Of course

The only problem is that life is so much easier if you can win physical battles now and again. I’m not saying it’s impossible for the Sounders to win pretty, but it’s just harder is all.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 12, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can be and often is

but then the finish has been breaking down for us. Mostly what I see is that on those shoulder to shoulder challenges, there’s a lot of holding, shoving, some of which is blatant, none of which gets called. That said, I don’t think we’re getting picked on since I see it other MLS games too. It feels like that imaginary line of too much/not enough has been moved slightly and it’s just enough to either slow down play to the point of losing the advantage or ending up on the ground with no call. They’re not all fouls, but it would be nice to get a few more calls.

by swansuite on May 12, 2010 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

swansuite

Can I give you a project?

Who were the 10 best Target Forwards in MLS history?

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by Dave Clark on May 12, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like debating myself...

I would also like to make clear that I don’t know that the answer is a target forward unless it’s someone in the Blaise or Jaqua model — skilled. I think a physical presence would probably be most useful in the back somewhere. Basically, I think I’m saying I wish we had drafted Omar Gonzalez back when we were a USL team :).

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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 12, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahh...

My bad.

Can I give you a project totally unrelated to your previous statements about wanting a more physical backline?

I want to do something concerning MLS Target Men. McBride, Ching, Jaqua, Casey all come to mind quickly

Who else/

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by Dave Clark on May 12, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

uh oh

Am I starting to sound like Swansuite or something. Didn’t mean to jump into your convo. :)

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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 12, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's not quite fair

I thought this was pretty much open to everyone. Look, I’m trying to tone it down, fit in, tread a little more softly…. if that’s not enough, I’ll be happy to disappear. I’m not trying to be a distraction, but I’m also trying to voice my own opinion.

Dave, the ones you mentioned came immediately to mind (except for Casey, who probably belongs in there somewhere). More “go to” guys than real target men, I think, but Jeff Cunningham, Taylor Twellman, Carlos Ruiz, Stern John. That’s about it off the top of my head.

by swansuite on May 12, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kind of like our disagreement on Buddle

I never saw him as a target type, more a “go to”

the list of quality target men in MLS is so low that sometimes teams reach, and draft a Jarrod Smith

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by Dave Clark on May 12, 2010 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hopefully you didn't take that the wrong way...

You don’t have to tone it down. I appreciate your opinions and find them generally well informed. I was trying to be funny. Sorry if it came off wrong.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 12, 2010 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's true

But, a target forward could make the perfect run as well, get the perfect pass and slot home the goal. If it breaks down, he has options. We don’t.

by blakec on May 13, 2010 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

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