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Quick Review: Celtic over Sounders 2-1 - Updated with Stats and Quotes

I was going to be the anti-Churchill and say "Never has a game meant so little to so few" but the implied double negative ruined things. And there have been worse friendlies on a American soil.

There isn't much to take away from the game. Yes, the Sounders played better and lost, but when down a man tieing 1-1 is a solid "result."

Blaise Nkfufo is as good as advertised. He works well with Montero, and we'll be seeing a Target Forward challenging as the best in MLS at that role. He moved a lot more than expected, but a lot of that is probably due to the fact that Seattle had a midfielder who rarely gets forward with the ball too much.

Sanna Nyassi continues to show that he deserves more time, and not just as Steve Zakuani's clone. With Sanna on the pitch Seattle played an aggressive, high pressure defensive scheme that only works when there is a lot of speed on the pitch overall, but particularly in the attacking roles. Seattle's upcoming expected starting lineup should be able to use that high pressure quite well.

David Estrada is rapidly becoming this year's Mike Fucito. Early in the season in Reserve games all he did was score. Now late in the season he's on the injured list with an injury that doesn't seem readily apparent when he does play. Here's to hoping we see a bit of Estrada in the CCL group stage (although it might be quite amazing to start him on the road at Metapan).

Everything else went basically as expected, at least by each player.

The Red Card was the proper call within the Laws of the Game (In fact CR Ward mentions Law 12 doesn't give him the choice), but likely should have been let go in a Friendly. It did lead to local boy Jordan Jennings having what will probably be the best day of his life. Now here's the question, do I add him to the Sounders roster for this site?

Stats and Quotes when we get them

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Goals by Period

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2

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Celtic FC

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1

2

Seattle Sounders

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1

1

 

Scoring Summary:

CEL -- Georgios Samaras (penalty kick) 32

CEL -- Patrick McCourt (Milan Nisun) 64

SEA -- David Estrada (Taylor Graham) 66

Celtic FC -- Dominic Cervi, Andreas Hinkel, Paul Caddis (Paul McGowan 67), Jos Hooiveld, Milan Misun, Patrick McCourt (Benjamin Hutchison 85), Simon Ferry, Ki Sung Yueng (Marc Crosas 71), Cillian Sheridan (Charles Mulgrew 56), Georgios Samaras (James Forrest 46), Morten Rasmussen (Marc Fortune 56).

Substitutes Not Used:
 Mark Wilson, Shaun Maloney, Darren Odea, Lukasz Zaluska. 

TOTAL SHOTS: 12 (4 tied with 2); SHOTS ON GOAL: 6 (6 tied with 1); FOULS: 12 (Ki Sung Yueng 3); OFFSIDES: 5 (Morten Rasmussen 2); CORNER KICKS: 6 (Marc Crosas 4); SAVES: 1 (Dominic Cervi 1)

Seattle Sounders
 -- Terry Boss, Zach Scott, Tyrone Marshall (Patrick Ianni 74), Taylor Graham, Tyson Wahl, Sanna Nyassi (Steve Zakuani 70), Osvaldo Alonso (Nathan Sturgis 59), Peter Vagenas (Pat Noonan 75), Miguel Montano (David Estrada 64), Blaise Nkufo (Roger Levesque 60), Fredy Montero (Jordan Jennings 32).


Substitutes Not Used: Leo Gonzalez, Jeff Parke, James Riley. 

TOTAL SHOTS: 12 (Miguel Montano 3); SHOTS ON GOAL: 2 (David Estrada 2); FOULS: 11 (Fredy Montero 3); OFFSIDES: 1 (Sanna Nyassi 1); CORNER KICKS: 3 (Nathan Sturgis 2); SAVES: 4 (Jordan Jennings 3)

Misconduct Summary:

SEA -- Terry Boss (ejection; Denied Goal Scoring Opportunity (Foul)) 29

CEL -- Charles Mulgrew (caution; Reckless Tackle) 84

Referee: Paul Ward

Referee's Assistants: -Cameron Blair; Mike Rottersman

4th Official: Josh Wilkens

Attendance: 45,631

Time of Game: 1:53

Weather: Cloudy-and-60-degrees

All Statistics contained in this boxscore are unofficial.

 

 

Seattle Sounders FC vs. Celtic FC - July 18, 2010 - Quotes

 

Sigi Schmid - Sounders FC Head Coach

(General Comments...) "It still ended up being a decent game. It could have been a good game. Sort of like that book, A Good Walk Spoiled.  It was a good game spoiled by I thought a poor decision. It is what it is. I'm proud of how our team continued to play. I'm glad we pulled a goal back. I'm disappointed with the second goal we gave up because I felt we were a little lazy on our defending on that, but I was proud of our mentality and the way we played in the second half."

(On Terry Boss' red card...) "My two things were this: one is the guy scored the goal and he could have let the goal count. He didn't have to go back and give the penalty. He said that he had blown the whistle, so he felt he needed to call the penalty. I asked if he needed to red card the guy and he said that those are the rules. So I said that you've ruined the game for 40,000 people. Then I asked him where their communication was because normally the fourth official with the guy in the middle and the linesman as well. Maybe it was US soccer's frugality or whatever the case, but they had no communication system. I said that'd be like us showing up without uniforms. I just left it at that. I figured I was close to getting thrown out and Adrian [Hanauer] said he wouldn't pay any fines, so I figured I couldn't do that."

(On Jordan Jennings...) "Jordan, for a kid who isn't normally on our team and has been playing PDL, which is a couple of division below, I thought he did well. It's unfortunate that Boss needs to continue to get game time and he missed out on the game time. Jordan equated himself well and came up with a couple of good saves. He snagged a perfect one going to his left. Last night he played in front of 25 people and today he stepped on the field and played in front of 40,000."

(On Blaise Nkufo...) "When you have a new payer, you have to integrate with him and he needs to integrate to the team and we need to understand what he can do. He showed that he can be a forward for us and bring other players into the game, which is a good attribute to have. The one cross that [Fredy] Montero hit to him early was a good cross in the box at the right spot and he got clobbered from behind on the header. He's been off since the World Cup, so as his fitness improves and his touch improves, I think we're going to have a lot of joy."

(On effect Nkufo had on game...) "In the 2nd half I told Blaise to stay a little more central since we were playing a man down, but sometimes he likes to come off and look for the ball, but he gets back in. In the first half when we were playing 11 v. 11, sometimes we took too many touches before we played the ball back in, but certainly as he holds and occupies the central defense, that will open up spaces for our wide players."

(On Michael Seamon being out...) "He's much closer. He's played the last two games at 75 to 80 percent. We felt there was no reason to push him today and weekend of rest should help him as we go into training net week."

(On taking out Montero...) "Because we were playing a man down. If I take out one of the other guys, then Fredy's going to end up playing midfield and I was going to have Blaise drop wide right and play midfield. I felt there was no point in having Fredy play wide right or wide left in midfield and run up and down. We have a game next week that matters and is important for us. He's played a lot of minutes lately and has put forth a great effort, so I thought he was the appropriate guy to rest and let some of the other guys run a little bit more."

(On David Estrada goal...) "He hit a bomb. I don't know if [Dominic] Cervi ever saw it. He stepped up. It was one of those balls that sits right for you and he took his chance. He was a bit unlucky in hitting the post at the very end as well. He needed to get around that a bit more and hit it far post.  I think he would have gotten another goal maybe. But certainly he scored a great goal. He's very happy and it was a great shot."

(On Estrada getting more opportunity...) "As a young player, when you're trying to make your way forward, every time you get an opportunity you try and make an impression. Obviously, today he made an impression and when you do that, it means you're going to get another opportunity."

(On Estrada playing through injury...) "He can play. He has a chronic toe that sort of comes and goes, but he can play in Open Cup games and he can play in CONCACAF games, so there's opportunities that are there."

(On Fredy Montero...) "He's brought a lot of energy into the game the last two games. There's been a little bit of space available underneath the forwards that he's taken advantage of. He got to play a few games with [Nate] Jaqua, which helps because Jaqua is a different style of forward. We asked Roger [Levesque] to do his best Nate Jaqua imitation and he did. I think that helps, having that kind of forward next to him. That allows him to bring him game out a little bit more. It's mainly him and the effort that he's brought onto the field the last two games."

(On Nate Jaqua...) "We'll see on Tuesday. He feels better each day, but he hasn't really been tested. We don't want to push it right now, so we will give him another day of rest tomorrow and then we'll see where he is at Tuesday."

(On potential additional roster moves...) "That's something that I don't know the final answers on. There are things that we're working on it. As to when that might happen or not happen, I really can't tell you. My job as the coach every day is to go out and work with the group that is out there every day and that's what I try and do."

 

Blaise Nkufo - Sounders FC Forward

(On making his debut...) "I was happy to finally play in my first game with my new teammates - fun. I can now move on and focus on the next game."

(On his teammates getting to know him so the team can play better...) "We are going to work together on the field. I like to play two touches. We have some time. This was my first game and we showed some good signs today. Fredy Montero and I will play together and get better each week."

(On the competition level of the MLS to that of the Dutch League...) "I never compare the two leagues because it changes a lot. We can work on doing better and play to keep position."

(On the surface of the pitch...) "In Holland we have a team that plays on artificial too, and they were very successful. Hopefully we can be that way too. It is difficult but gives it some time and everything will be good."

 

David Estrada - Sounders FC Forward


(On the message Coach Schmid gave him entering the game...) "He said we needed a spark and I knew once I came out on the field to take a shot. Fortunately it went in. I almost got a second one. [Steve] Zakuani had a good combination with Roger [Levesque] and laid it right off to me and the keeper just got a touch on it."

(On being on the IR, but playing in a friendly...) "Yeah, it is something they talked to me about it. I'm still eligible for Open Cup and other tournaments, which they can give me an opportunity to play."

(On playing with a man down...) "I think it was unlucky considering it was a friendly and people want to see a good game. To see Terry Boss leave so early was unfortunate. Everyone pulled together and we tried to cover as much ground as we could and the defenders did a good job."

(On Jordan Jennings nerves entering the match...) "I think he did a good job, after that free kick. He did a good job the whole game. I think it was 40,000 today, a big professional debut for him today."

 

Jordan Jennings - Sounders FC Goalkeeper

(On playing the Washington Crossfire and the Celtic FC in 24 hours...) "A very different atmosphere, unfortunately we probably got knocked out of the playoffs last night. This was a great experience and I will remember it for the rest of my life, for sure."

(On the discrepancy in attendance size from his past two games...) "Last night we had about 20 or 30, instead of 50,000. It is a big jump. They gave me the game ball. I didn't want to leave anything in the locker room."

(On his emotions going into the game...) "I saw the red card come up and I was extremely nervous, and thought,'Is this really happening?' When you get onto the field, the penalty scored on me, but once you make a couple of plays everything just goes away. I started feeling more comfortable then I thought I would be. You wouldn't think you would feel comfort like that but I did. The butterflies went away after I made the first save."

(On watching Georgios Samaras in the World Cup...) "Yeah, I was like, 'Wow, that guy? Is the long haired Greek guy really taking a penalty on me right now? I do remember him from the World Cup. Unfortunately I guessed the wrong way."

 

Neil Lennon - Celtic FC Head Coach

(General Comments...) "A lot of pleasing performances. It was really a worthwhile exercise. I'm pleased we won. I thought we should have won the game more comfortably. I'm disappointed in the goal we conceded. Overall, I'm pleased with the workout."

(On red card...) "I thought the referee should have just let the goal stand and common sense prevails, but I think he had already made the decision to give the penalty. Sometimes it's worthwhile to play against 10 men to see how we adapt although I probably would have preferred 11 on 11."

(On impressions of team's performance...) "They're proven. I'm not disappointed about the score because we've had a heavy schedule. We had a hard game on Friday night against Manchester in Toronto and then the travel, so you have to take into consideration the fatigue element and watch for any lingering injuries. Thankfully, we picked up a couple, so we should be OK. The ones that didn't play today should get on in the next match."

(On MLS...) "It's a good standard. I like the American players. I like their temperament and like their professionalism as well. They're very athletic and in open space the level of technical ability for the majority of them has been good in the couple of games we've played against them."

(On Cha Du Ri...) "He needed to go back and sort out his visa. Hopefully we can get him back as quickly as possible. Hopefully he'll join us next week. We've been watching him, even before the World Cup, we were aware of him. We watched him in a couple of friendlies before the World Cup and he obviously did very well in the World Cup. He was very impressive. I like his style of play. I think he'll fit the style of Scotland and I think he'll be a good asset for us to have. We needed to get the balance better in the midfield area and I think he'll increase the quality of that."

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I am not going to get too worked up over an exhibition game

The referee should have known the circumstances of the game. By the letter of the rule, it was a red. But, then by the letter of the rule he should have only allowed three substitutes per side.

But, this game means nothing and will be soon forgotten.

by Coug1990 on Jul 18, 2010 3:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Just came from the game

Thanks for the link regarding the red card. Many of us there were howling at the red card issued, although I’m still surprised that the ref didn’t award advantage.

Estrada looked good. Scott didn’t.

Still rather new to following professional soccer; are there unlimited substitutions in Friendlies? The Sounders definitely used more than three.

Anyway, it was my first time seeing the Sounders live (or even visiting Qwest Field, I live in Virginia) and it was an incredible atmosphere! Shame I’ll have to return to following them from a distance again.

by jwolf0 on Jul 18, 2010 3:43 PM PDT reply actions  

The opponents in friendlies agree on the sub limit prior to the match

Some do 7 subs, some infiinite.

As an aside, in US Open Cup QUALIFIERS 4 subs are allowed

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by Dave Clark on Jul 18, 2010 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Referee Ward had another option, in my view.

Regarding Law 12 and “the keeper is guilty of denying an obvious goal scoring opportunity”: Samaras scored the goal. Boss attempted to deny the goal scoring opportunity but failed. Application of Law 12 is therefore subjective. A red-card during an MLS game perhaps, but a yellow and stern warning would be more appropriate for a friendly.
Another mid-season friendly featuring the Sounders ’B" team. The two friendlies this season have been especially meaningless. If I choose not to re-up my season tickets, the inclusion of such friendlies into the package will be a factor.

by Eastside Ajacied on Jul 18, 2010 3:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Trophies not Friendlies

That’s what we all want.

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by Dave Clark on Jul 18, 2010 3:49 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

In fact if you are on twitter I have created that as a hash tag

#trophiesnotfriendlies

Open Cup and CCL deserve to be in the season ticket package, not these games.

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by Dave Clark on Jul 18, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the friendlies, they're fun, seeing CABJ play was awesome, etc.

But these games being season ticket games is absurd. Are you really going to have trouble filling the stadium for a team with as large a following as Celtic? And if you can’t draw a team as big as Celtic, why not play it at Starfire? I get the appeal of friendlies and I don’t see them going anywhere, but a shift in priorities is in order.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 18, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

a slippery slope

having MLS teams rely on friendlies against European opponents for marketing and revenue is dubious, at best… the problems with this strategy are numerous, the benefits minimal…

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by malcontentjake on Jul 18, 2010 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not like big clubs playing friendlies is an American phenomenon though.

I agree that pumping them up to the level they do in MLS isn’t the best tactic, but the friendlies in and of themselves aren’t the problem.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 18, 2010 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

But a team that complains about lack of attention given to Cup competitions

While paying more attention to its friendlies than said Cup competitions is kind of funny.

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by Dave Clark on Jul 18, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Absolutely.

It’s not like you need to pump up teams like Barcelona, Chelsea or Celtic that much to get a decent draw. But in an emerging market I think you need to have to do a better job of talking up the importance of cup competitions than the Sounders have been doing.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 18, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

What are you saying?

That sports teams should not nickle and dime every dollar out of the sporting consumer. I agree, but that ship has sailed long ago.

by Coug1990 on Jul 18, 2010 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

CCL or Superliga is a no brainer

However, the Open Cup is a bit trickier. The games that it would make the most sense to have included – the semifinal or final – are not guaranteed due to a potential loss earlier in the tournament. Having the first game in the tournament included would likely be a play-in ‘reserve’ game against another MLS squad or a match against a USL-1 or lower team. Not exactly better than what we saw today or against BOCA. I guess if I have to buy 3 additional games with my season tickets I wouldn’t mind 1 CCL/Superliga, 1 Sounders friendly and 1 match not involving the Sounders (i.e. 2 European teams, a US National team friendly, etc.)

by mark_s on Jul 19, 2010 1:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

This gets at Dave's idea of memberships rather than packages

If I understand Dave’s suggestion correctly, he would like to see the Sounders sell season-long memberships rather than set game-number packages. For instance, it could be structured so that every competitive game played at Qwest (with a limit of, say, 18 matches) would be part of the membership. So, if the team plays 15 MLS matches, one CCL match and the USOC semis and finals at Qwest, that would be your entire package. If the team only ends up playing 15 MLS matches, those are the only games you’d be on the hook for. The idea being that friendlies, if they want to have them, would be sold separately (perhaps with season-ticket holders getting rights of first refusal).

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jul 19, 2010 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

thoughts:

on Montero and Nkufo: the 30 minutes that they played together, Montero stayed mainly at center forward and Nkufo dropped off and drifted wide, the exact opposite of what I would have expected.

on red card: there is an interesting bit here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_foul#Association_football) about how this rule evolved.
I think the key to understanding this law is to consider that it was originally designed to punish “intentional” fouls, i.e. something akin to cynically dragging a player down from behind when he has a clear path to goal. Of course, judging “intention” is always a slippery slope, as we saw many times during the World Cup when yellow cards were handed out for “deliberate” hand ball when the offense was anything but “deliberate.”
It is my belief that FIFA needs to send a memorandum to referees (which they do quite often) outlining a new interpretation of the rule, since the original spirit has somehow been lost, and the current interpretation seems to offer a punishment far too harsh for the crime committed. In most cases, as today’s, awarding a PK, and perhaps a yellow card, really ought to suffice.
This idea that “the rule is the rule” is quite silly in a game with as many subjective decisions as soccer. It drives me crazy to see harsh punishments legislated into the game by rule-makers (and in my life experiences, people who make rules are a joyless lot) when there is so much ambiguity, it just strikes me as counter to the spirit of the game. As usual with these calls, my beef is not with the referee, but with the rule-writers and makers. Please do something about this, guys!
here is the text of the law… scroll down to (15) under the heading (Decisions of International F.A. Board) http://www.wfms.org/Other/Football/FIFA/law12.html

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by malcontentjake on Jul 18, 2010 4:26 PM PDT reply actions  

The "rule is the rule" is quite silly.

malcontenjake, thanks for the link. I agree with you on the point in bold. About rule 12, again, “an offense punishable by a free kick (or a PK), thus denying the attacking player’s team the aforesaid goal-scoring opportunity”. As Sigi pointed out above “the guy (Samaras) scored the goal and he (the ref) could have let the goal count.” The application of rule 12, in this instance, is not as clear-cut as Referee Ward and others on this post make it seem. It should be pointed out that Ward didn’t draw the red card until after apparently needing to be convinced to do so by Celtic players.
My bottom line: Dispense with these silly “friendlies” and give us real games.

by Eastside Ajacied on Jul 18, 2010 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

By the way, it was stupid of Boss to take down a player in a friendly

I think that is lost in all of this discussion whether the ref should have or should not have

by Coug1990 on Jul 18, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

This point was made elsewhere

But Boss did not deny an obvious goal scoring opportunity, a goal was scored. It was the official who denied the goal, he deserved the red. :)

by PeterJH on Jul 18, 2010 8:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't even try to understand the rule behind that red card

It was more comical to see a red card in a friendly. I hope Boss isn’t suspended from the next friendly.

by Brian Floyd on Jul 18, 2010 8:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I felt bad for Boss

His only real chance at 90 and he didn’t even make it through the first half.

Fun for the kid, though!

And of course, none of it matters and I’m done talking about it.

by Cornchops on Jul 18, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

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