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Alvaro Fernandez Signs

Midfielder Freddie Ljungberg remains with the Sounders, despite rumours that he would be forced to leave in order to facilitate Fernandez's transfer.

One of the more excruciating transfer sagas in Seattle's admittedly short history has come to a close. Uruguayan international midfielder Alvaro Fernandez has signed with the Sounders as the team's third designated player, putting to bed rumours that he wasn't going to be able to join the team until unsettled star Freddie Ljungberg had skipped town. Fernandez, not yet added to the roster, played in four matches for Uruguay in this year's World Cup, starting during the notorious quarter-final against Ghana.

We anticipate that Fernandez will be deployed as a central midfield playmaker, taking over the lion's share of the duties shared between Michael Seamon and Pete Vagenas so far this season. The 24 year old is in the prime of his career and adept at linking play between the defence and the forwards, giving the Sounders a second dynamic central midfielder to play alongside Oswaldo Alonso. This is a huge signing for the team's future, and a big deal for the league - it's one of the first instances of an international calibre talent coming to MLS at such a young age.

Fernandez joins the team fresh off a loan spell with Chilean club Universidad, with whom he made eleven appearances, scoring three goals, having scored five in sixteen for his parent club (Urugauyan team Nacional). Fernandez has also spent time in the Mexican league as well as having a cup of coffee in Europe on loan with Portuguese side Vitoria F.C.

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Selected Quotes


"I'm very excited to be playing in the U.S. because the football has grown a lot in the last few years and keeps getting better. Seattle is beautiful and I think it's the ideal place to be with my family. All these things helped in making my decision."

-Alvaro Fernandez, new Seattle Sounders FC midfielder.

"Alvaro is a versatile player who can play in a number of midfield positions. He brings good energy to the game as well as World Cup experience. He can score and also set-up others."

-Sigi Schmid Sounders head coach.

Tactical View

The central midfield position has been a major area of concern for the Sounders this season. Ideally the team plays with two ball-movers in the center to link up with Fredy Montero and the attacking threats along the wings, but the centre of the pitch has not been a good outlet from defence to attack, due to a combination of Ossie Alonso's injuries and Peter Vagenas/Nate Sturgis being incapable of fulfilling the role. Brad Evans and Freddie Ljungberg have both been trialed in the role, neither with much success, and Michael Seamon has recently showed promise as a CM, but the second-round draft pick needs more football experience to act as the conductor of Seattle's game.

Enter the newest Sounder. While he's versatile enough to play all over the midfield, his real strength lies in ball movement. He picks out runs extremely quickly and gets the ball to where it needs to be without the pointless square passes that have plagued Seattle so far this season. His intelligence will enable the team to counter-attack more effectively as well as breaking down opposing defences that chose to sit back and let the Sounders come at them. Don't expect too many goals out of Fernandez, but it would be no shock to see him rack up the assists with his clever distribution.

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Hells yes.

I love our front office. How they pulled this off, I don’t know, but damned if they aren’t wily.

by Perrinbar on Jul 29, 2010 11:32 AM PDT reply actions  

Woot

NO, THAT DESERVES ALL CAPS!!!

WOOT!!!

by blakec on Jul 29, 2010 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

HAPPY DAY

Karma police, arrest this man.

by wyte_lightning on Jul 29, 2010 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

they arent saying

hopefully well get an answer once sigi talks

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jul 29, 2010 11:54 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I have no clue!

I was just forwarded the press release and they didn’t say.

by Graham MacAree on Jul 29, 2010 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

International friendly 8/11

He is playing an international friendly against Angola on August 11th in Lisbon, Portugal, so that will affect the timing. I assume he’s training with the team and the international transfer certificate can be done in a few days. Given his Latin American experience, I would think he will get some playing time on Tuesday against Metapan, perhaps as a sub. Then the friendly complicates things. I’m not sure how much time he’ll need before and after, but I wouldn’t expect him to be available against the Dynamo on 8/8 and 8/14 will be a question mark. After that, I expect he’ll be starting or getting significant time in the 2nd half. Ideally he’ll start against Marathón on the 19th. :)

by florean on Jul 29, 2010 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder how this worked?

Does anyone know the specifics of cap space and using allocation money? Can he say, theoretically be salaried at $1 but then have allocation money make up the rest?

by chrisperry1983 on Jul 29, 2010 11:56 AM PDT reply actions  

They might be bending the rules for us

since Ljungberg is clearly on the way out. Plus, Fernandez is a huge pick up for MLS as a whole.

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Jul 29, 2010 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

They certainly will bend things when they think it's good for MLS as a whole.

And getting a young star is certainly good for MLS as a whole.

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Jul 29, 2010 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

or

According to Mayers, what is occuring is a little less sinister. Fernandez isn’t on the active roster yet, pending his international clearance. A roster move will have to be made in order to fit him in.

by PeterJH on Jul 29, 2010 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sinister?

No. If it’s good for MLS as a whole, I don’t see why they wouldn’t bend the rules a little since Ljungberg is probably gone anyway. Which would bring us right back in line with the rules.

Then again it may not matter at all. Ljungberg is probably gone before Fernandez is available to play.

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Jul 29, 2010 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Slots are tradable

We could trade for an extra foreign player slot, if we had to, but I think they’d sooner drop Freddie from the active roster. Maybe his “ankle injury” would qualify him for IR, like Estrada.

by florean on Jul 29, 2010 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not possible

as per CBA rules you can not sell, or release someone that is IRed.

by gstommylee on Jul 29, 2010 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hurtado doesn't count

Hanauer says in an interview on the Times blog that Hurtado doesn’t count because he’s on IR.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/soundersfcblog/2012484363_sounders_fc_gm_adrian_hanauer.html

by florean on Jul 29, 2010 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

er

sorry didn’t see the post above. please ignore.

by gstommylee on Jul 29, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

From Mayers
Alvaro Fernandez certainly passes the eye test so far. Good size, skill and agility. Should fit in very well and make a significant impact.

Twitter

by Brian Floyd on Jul 29, 2010 12:05 PM PDT reply actions  

FL10

Considering the 3rd DP costs them a cool $250k, I would assume this means the FO don’t expect Ljungberg to be going anywhere for a while (maybe until he’s a free transfer at the end of the season) and that they are serious about making a run for the playoffs.
Or, they already have some targets to fill in Ljungberg’s DP slot and where going to pay for a 3rd DP anyway. One can always hope.

by florean on Jul 29, 2010 12:16 PM PDT reply actions  

And...?

I don’t get your point. I think we all know it doesn’t count against the cap. My point is that MLS teams don’t throw cash around willy nilly and if they thought there would be an empty DP slot in a week, they probably wouldn’t drop $250k to get Alvaro in right now. In fact, they could probably wait a couple of weeks before they’d really need him. So that would point to one of the two possibilities I outlined above: Freddy Ljungberg isn’t going anywhere this season or they’re going to need a 3rd DP anyway.

by florean on Jul 29, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

One time fee

The 3rd DP slot is a one time fee that the team has to pay to the league. Since i don’t think the team is short of funds right now and they probably will consider using the 3rd dp slot in the future even if FL10 is gone it really isn’t a big deal.

by DarthGreedo on Jul 29, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think what he's saying

is he speculates that they paid that one time fee because they know FL isn’t about to get transferred out. $250k is kind of a lot. I doubt a team would spend that kind of cash if they didn’t need to.

by chrisperry1983 on Jul 29, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other Interest

We’re assuming that Alvaro and his agent were willing to wait until FL was traded. The FO might have had to finally finalize the deal before another team took interest and decided to sign him.

I’m not a big fan of having a 3rd DP. I’d rather have the cap space spent on getting good reserves to handle injuries, CCL and Open Cup games. However, once FL is gone, they can move back to having 2 DPs.

by Dizzo on Jul 29, 2010 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is it?

Ah, that’s the point I’m not clear on and I can’t seem to find any documentation on it. Is it a one time fee in perpetuity? Is it for the player’s contract? Is it yearly?

If it gives you a 3rd DP slot forever, than they were going to do it within the next few years anyway and it doesn’t matter whether they spend it now or then (they grossed more than that last night), in which case my speculation is moot. If not, then there are other considerations. Frustratingly, all of the articles discussing the 3rd DP rule didn’t answer that point. Where did you find it?

by florean on Jul 29, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

one time fee in perpetuity

adrian explained that team has to pay but then can add third dp again if fl10 is traded wo paying fee again

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jul 29, 2010 2:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Where'd he say that?

I’m obviously missing out on a Sounders news source. Thanks for the clarification.

by florean on Jul 29, 2010 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Found it

Never mind, I just hadn’t checked the Times blog recently. Interesting tidbit, they don’t have to pay for the 3rd DP slot until he gets added to the active roster, so if Freddie is gone before that (or on IR, I think), they’ll save the $250k.

by florean on Jul 29, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

as Per

CBA rules seattle can not sell or release a player that is on IR.

by gstommylee on Jul 29, 2010 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let us recall that Jeremiah was there today

Sometimes we don’t need to quote the Seattle Times, we can trust that the people that are authors on this site know about which they write.

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by Dave Clark on Jul 29, 2010 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I didn’t know Jeremiah was there today. Thanks for letting me know. I’m sorry if my search for primary sources offended anyone.

by florean on Jul 29, 2010 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

no offense

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jul 29, 2010 3:33 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I've been thinking about the timing

3rd DP fee is redistributed to teams without a 3rd DP, yes? Does that mean we snuck a bit from RBNY before we signed our own?

There’s something to waiting, to get a bit more from other teams, but if it’s a one-time fee, there’s something to going for it, before PDX, Vancouver, and Montreal can all benefit (assuming they don’t benefit currently).

by Cornchops on Jul 29, 2010 9:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seattle

is the first to have 3 DPs. NY hasn’t announced their 3rd one yet. You only pay the fee if you still have 3 DPs by the time the 3rd one becomes active.

Portland, Vancouver and Montreal don’t benefit from it since they aren’t in the league yet.

by gstommylee on Jul 30, 2010 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sweet!

How much (positively, obviously) does this affect our chances at winning a trophy this year? Or is it even possible to guess at that?

Or has someone written about this already and I missed it?

Welcome to Seattle, Alvaro!

24 is clearly the most perfect of numbers.

by AMb1valenT on Jul 29, 2010 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Roster spot?

Do we have an open roster spot for Fernandez? Or do the Sounders grant Graham his wish by sending Vagenas to IR on his way to oblivion?

Oh and I too think this signing is effing-F-tastic!!!

by 108Ultra on Jul 29, 2010 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

No room

per Mayers

Vaya con Dios, Vagenas.

by 108Ultra on Jul 29, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Can we put Vagenas on the DL unil FL10 backs out?

Does putting a player on the DL open a roster spot the way it does in MLB?

It might even be legitimate, given the way he went down against Metapan.

by moyerLIVES on Jul 29, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe they'll drop FL10?

That would be interesting. But I’m sure they’ll put Vagenas on IR (whether he needs to be or not). The MLS roster and the CCL roster, perhaps also the Open Cup roster, are different. For example, David Estrada is in our 24 man CCL roster (so is Evans) and was on the bench last night against Metapán, but in MLS he is on IR and can’t even be put back on the roster until September. I think we can have an unlimited number of players on IR, but they still count against our MLS cap. But could we have players on our CCL roster that don’t count against our MLS cap (we don’t)? Perhaps someone else can answer that. And can we get Alvaro on our CCL roster? I would assume we could swap him out for an injured Vagenas, but I don’t know what the limitations are. Perhaps he’ll be MLS-only.

by florean on Jul 29, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

we have up to 30 players for the CCL squad. Plus you are only allowed 4 people on IR and Adrian would rather use the 4th IR spot in case of another hurtado like injury

by gstommylee on Jul 29, 2010 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

need to make roster space

it cant be fl. thye are going to have to trade or cut someone. pretty sure those are only options

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jul 29, 2010 3:58 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

i wonder

 who would be the one that gets traded or cut if it can’t be FL.

by gstommylee on Jul 29, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Timing: CCL win?

It is interesting that they announced this right after our win in the CCL and I don’t think it is a coincidence. If we get past Metapán next week, which looks more likely than not considering they only got 2 shots off last night and they won’t really be playing at home, then we hit some serious fixture congestion. We’ll have matches 8/3, 8/8, 8/14, 8/19, 8/25, 8/28, 9/1, 9/4, 9/9, 9/14-16, 9/18, 9/21-23, 9/25, 9/28-30, 10/2, and, if we beat Chivas in the Open Cup, 10/5.

So, that is 6 games in August and 8 in September(!), or 16 games in 63 days, or a game less than every 4 days for 2 months! We’re going to need all of the roster and IR spots (*cough*Estrada*cough*) we can get.

Perhaps that is why they felt they had to sign Alvaro as soon as possible.

by florean on Jul 29, 2010 12:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Back to Work

Yes! I can finally get back to work on my dissertation!

by SeattleStan on Jul 29, 2010 1:31 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Yes!!!!!!

This fills a huge hole that has been glaringly obvious all season.

by seattlecubsfan on Jul 29, 2010 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Next Year

I was trying to think about what the lineup and depth chart might look like next year. I thought I would take a stab at it in the comments section so people can add in their own thoughts.

I’m also assuming everyone is healthy and recovers over the next year. Of course, it’s likely two of these players in the reserve spots will be taken in the expansion draft. I’m thinking the most likely players to be taken in the expansion draft are Evans and Nyassi.

                                                Keller (Boss)

Leo (Wahl) Hurtado (Ianni) Parke (Graham) Riley (Scott)

                                                Alonso (Sturgis)

                Montano (Levesque) Zak (Nyassi)

                                   Fernandez (Evans/Seamon)

                                        Montero (Fucito/Estrada)

                                                  Nkufo (Jaqua)

Ideally, I’d like to see Marshall, Noonan and Vagenas cut during the off-season to open up a couple slots and cap space for younger players from the draft. However, Marshall, Noonan and Vagenas are veterans with guaranteed contracts, so they might be on the roster next year if they have years left on their contracts (does anyone know how long their contracts run?). I don’t think they’ll make a starting XI in 2011 after their performances this year.

The key areas I see for young reservists are probably in the back. I think we’re covered in central defense, but could definitely use a good backup for Leo/Riley.

by Dizzo on Jul 29, 2010 2:57 PM PDT reply actions  

expansion draft could be interesting

All those backups exposed with Jaqua, Seamon, Boss and Evans probably drawing the most interest. I’ll be interested to see if Riley has played his way out of Sigi’s dog house and gets protected this year.

by blakec on Jul 29, 2010 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I doubt it

Riley’s one of the more expendable pieces on the roster

by Graham MacAree on Jul 29, 2010 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Makes sense as far as the team is concerned

Sucks because he’s such a nice guy. Damn me and getting attached to our teams on a personal level.

by chrisperry1983 on Jul 29, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Expansion draft

Assuming the standard 11 protected I would have to guess: Keller, Leo, Hurtado, Alonso, Ianni, Montero, Zak, Fernandez, Montano and Nkufo get protected. That leaves one spot to protect Nyassi/Seamon/Fucito/Estrada/Jaqua.

Last year’s protected: Keller, Leo, Hurtado, Alonso, Ianni, Montero, Zakuani, Evans, Jaqua, Ljungberg and Marshall

The people in bold are the changes. If I had to bet, I would guess Jaqua or Seamon get the last protected spot. Other than Nkufo, Jaqua is the big guy up front. Our LW/RWers seem to be out most expendable position.

Of course, hell could freeze over and Freddie could re-sign, throwing everything off (that is, if we have an international spot for him?)

by magistermilitum on Jul 29, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spots 20-26 (Sounders don't have 25,26)

Are called protected spots, so I think they are protected. And are only open to min. salary guys.

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by Dave Clark on Jul 29, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Parke

With Marshall fading a bit, I think they protect Parke over Montano.

How does the expansion draft and loans work?

by blakec on Jul 29, 2010 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

as per Dave

montano would probably be one of the protect 20-24 players. So would 4 other players seamon, fucito and Estrada and nyassi I’m curious who’s gonna be odd man out in that group my vote is Estrada.

by gstommylee on Jul 29, 2010 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

er

as per dave any one 20-26 are protected 25 26 are homegrown players only.

by gstommylee on Jul 29, 2010 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Expansion Draft will have 11 players protected

After each team loses one they will be allowed to add a 12th player, Gen Adidas players don’t need to be protected, nor do protected, nor home grown players. A DP with a No Trade Clause is REQUIRED to be protected.

That’s the quick version

Loans I can’t do quickly, because it will never make sense

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by Dave Clark on Jul 29, 2010 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

DP No Trade Clause?

Does anyone know if Fernandez or Nkufo have “no trade” clauses in their DP contracts?

I’m already beginning to worry about the 2010 expansion draft. It would be helpful if we didn’t have to include these two on our list of protected players. Ljundberg wasn’t exempt from the protected players list last year because of that clause in his contract. Same thing happened to the Galaxy with Beckham.

by adam sounders on Jul 29, 2010 3:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Don't DPs have to be protected?

I thought DPs have to count as protected players and that was why Ljungberg had to be added. It wouldn’t make sense to not count them, because it would allow teams with 3 DPs to effectively protect 14 players.

by florean on Jul 29, 2010 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Freddie

had a no trade clause thus he had to be protected.

by gstommylee on Jul 29, 2010 3:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

He reminds me both in body type and play

of Evans. Better finishing, but the same slashing runs in the box and the same lanky stride that is obviously quicker then oponents expect.

by blakec on Jul 29, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

big 2nd half

hey, let’s face it, we were getting outplayed in midfield all season when ossie went out, and losing because of our inability to finish. 1-0 wins of late are still like walking a tightrope.
but i feel the pendulum is swinging. nkufo, montero, zak, along with alonso back and fernandez, we will be formidable.
I loved ljungberg personally, and can’t provide a rationale for why it didn’t work, because you have to be there to know. and we all aren’t..
i don’t miss letoux at all. he’s not an all-star. if he were skilled, he’s have twice the goals he does.
and we have an ace in the hole. Fucito. he’ll be back soon. and he’ll pick up right where he left off.
if we make the playoffs, i can say with all certainty, you won’t want to play us~

by roadrunner11 on Jul 29, 2010 9:05 PM PDT reply actions  

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