Sounders well prepared for CCL
The Sounders came into this season knowing they would be playing in at least three different competitions: the MLS regular season, the U.S. Open Cup and the CONCACAF Champions League. They didn't know how many extra matches they would play, but they knew it would be a minimum of three and as many as 16 before the end of the MLS season.
After winning their first two Open Cup matches and advancing to the group stage of CCL, they now know they'll play at least 11 extra matches plus a potential USOC title match before the MLS Cup Playoffs even start. If the Sounders were to make the playoffs and advance all the way to the final, that would be four additional matches. By advancing out of the group stage of CCL, that could mean up to two more matches before the start of the 2011 MLS season and as many as four more during the MLS season (the CCL quarterfinals are in February-March and the semifinals and finals run through April).
Point being, the Sounders have already guaranteed that they'll be a busy group for the rest of the season. Luckily, they have a front office that actually seemed to relish this opportunity.
"We want to win everything we play in," Sounders GM Adrian Hanauer said during our one-on-one conversation following Tuesday's training session. "I think it would be naive to go into every year in a league that is structured for parity to assume that we could win a treble.
"But we talk everyday how best to structure our roster for now and in the future. If we qualify for Champions League again, we will probably go through some of the same conversations. If we happen to not qualify for Champions League, we’ll talk about that and how that may or may not affect what we want to do with the roster."
While some MLS coaches have voiced their displeasure with some of the fixture congestion these tournaments create, the Sounders have shown nothing but near unbridled enthusiasm for the prospect of competing for league, domestic and continental titles all at the same time. The players have often likened CCL to Europe's Champions League and they have spoken openly about how they believe the USOC may have helped them turn around their MLS season.
In countless interviews over the course of the past few months, I have yet to hear a player or coach mutter so much as an ounce of frustration with a schedule that has already seen them play four matches in 10 days twice and will close out with at least 15 matches in 52 days.
"I think that our USL roots are good in that way," said Hanauer, who ran the USL Sounders for their final seven seasons. "We have guys who are used to playing three games in four days and didn’t complain about it then, and certainly won’t be complaining about playing three games in seven days."
Among the players who came over from the USL side were current Sounders Sanna Nyassi, Roger Levesque, Zach Scott and Taylor Graham. That group has started 23 matches across all competitions this season and only Graham has not been a regular starter at some point during MLS play this season.
Sounders assistant coach Brian Schmetzer also came over from the USL side, having been the team's manager for Hanauer's entire tenure at the helm.
"Sigi (Schmid), Brian, (Technical Director) Chris (Henderson), myself, we all share that attitude, a bit of that workmanlike attitude," Hanauer said. "Sigi is, I imagine, the hardest working coach in MLS and leads by example in that way. I think that sometimes that brushes off."
Hanauer did admit that playing these extra games is a lot easier when you are winning. Since moving to MLS, the Sounders have played 10 competitive non-MLS matches and have yet to lose, winning seven in regulation and drawing just once.
"The thing is that you rarely hear about those extra games as a bother until teams lose in them," he said. "I’m sure we aren’t immune to that either. I’m sure there will be a day when we lose a game in one of those tournaments and say 'They’re a bother in the schedule anyway.' I hope that’s not true.
"But anyway, as this league evolves we should be able to manage multiple tournaments. That’s the way it happens around the world and that’s the way it should happen here."
As committed as the front office, coaches and even players may be to taking these tournaments seriously, commitment alone is not enough.
While Fredy Montero may say "In this type of tournament, there is no getting tired," he is not a machine. I love that he is committed to winning, but he is not a character in a video game. He will get tired. He will get hurt. At some point, his performance will suffer if he is forced to play starter's minutes in every match.
It's nice to know the Sounders have an appreciation for that fact. While starters like Montero and Steve Zakuani have been available in every match this season, they have not been forced to play heavy minutes in many of the non-MLS matches. Even guys like James Riley and Leo Gonzalez, who have played almost every minute of every MLS match, have received occasional respites from starting.
That all the starters aren't asked to play heavy minutes in these non-MLS matches is hardly uncommon. What sets the Sounders apart is the relative lack of drop off from starters to reserves.
"I think the results were shown last year and again this year that it’s just not in our DNA to blow off a competition," Hanauer said. "It’s tough, for sure, and it doesn’t mean the starting 11 will play in every match.
"But for sure the next group or whoever is on the field has to be mentally prepared and know that when they put on a Sounders jersey it’s all about winning. You’re going to mix and match, but we have a high level of confidence all the way down the line."
Mostly out of necessity, the Sounders have started 24 different players this season -- tied for third most in MLS -- but it does help illustrate the roster's depth. While other teams have had comparable numbers of players start, few can boast the bench talent of the Sounders.
Chicago (22), Los Angeles (22), New York (22), San Jose (23) and Toronto (24) are the only other teams with as many as 22 different starters that are in the playoff chase. Of those teams, only San Jose is outside the Top 5 in salary.
It may come as little surprise then, that teams with higher payrolls also appear to be the ones with deeper rosters. The Sounders also appear to be among the wisest spenders. They currently boast a back four that features three starters making less than $75,000 a year and three of their starting midfielders make less than $70,000 annually. All six of those players have made significant contributions to the Sounders' recent turnaround.
Patrick Ianni and Jeff Parke were first paired together in an Open Cup match and Nate Sturgis and Sanna Nyassi first found their form in non-MLS competition.
Far from being a burden, those extra matches may have actually helped get the season going in the right direction.
"We’ve got a great squad at the moment that is rally fighting for one another," Sounders goal keeper Kasey Keller said. "Maybe it took some of those Open Cup games to come around and it pushed some of those guys, 'We’re losing, they’re winning, maybe we need to step it up.' Like I said, it’s a good healthy, competitive environment at the moment."
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The whining about the other competitions...
… was always one of the least attractive characteristics of MLS clubs. I’m really, really glad the Sounders are an exception to this. You don’t have to play USOC or CCL matches, you get to play them. Sure it makes life more difficult and the season becomes more challenging to manage, but if you want your captain hoisting trophies over his head, this is what it takes.
by CarlosT on Aug 11, 2010 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I AGREE! Almost as bad as STH’s whining about having to watch friendlies….
more games = more happy
by chinsmd on Aug 11, 2010 5:49 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
You've completely missed the point of the trophiesnotfriendlies argument
And your continued sarcastic comments are unnecessary.
i thought blogs were created for unnecessary sarcasm. and I don’t believe I missed the point. I get the point, i just happen to disagree with it.
If you believe any of this, you've definitely missed the point
You continually misstate the point of #trophiesnotfriendlies. The only possible conclusion is that you are purposefully doing so which makes you seem like a dolt or that you are incapable of understanding nuance.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Aug 12, 2010 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
You seemed to have missed a word in my comments
Specifically, when I say “if you want your captain hoisting trophies over his head”.
More games where we can win something == More happy
Friendlies != game where we can win something
You continue to embarrass yourself
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Aug 11, 2010 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm asking for an EQUAL number of games
but I want ones that matter
Take Kansas City – their biggest win ever is against a team that refused to play its best players. They’ve done nothing. They’ll have a small spike in ticket sales and fade back to nothing. No Cups. No Trophies.
Would you rather be KC or DC?
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Sounder At Heart
I laughed at DC fans last season
when they made it seem like us winning the USOC was a favor to them, because they wouldn’t have to play so many games this season in CCL. It was embarassing to read, because it’s sad that there are supporters of teams in this league that actually think that way. Maybe they were just being sore losers and trying to deflect the fact that their “We Win Trophies” campaign flopped in their faces, but still.
by chrisperry1983 on Aug 11, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Revisionist history
Maybe that was the vibe on BigSoccer (a well-known place for reasoned analysis, right?), but trust me: The large majority of DC fans wanted to win and get another crack at the CCL. Of course, it probably would have been a disaster given our performance this year, but I don’t know any DC fans that didn’t want another shot at another trophy.
by ChestRockwell on Aug 12, 2010 3:06 AM PDT up reply actions
There were several from Black and Red that came over here and tried to ruin our joy
And yes, some from BigSoccer (but I won’t count them)
I might have been too harsh in that post. I don’t believe all DC fans were saying that. But a few loud voices were. Probably the same ones that booed Keller after his ankle injury in DC.
by chrisperry1983 on Aug 12, 2010 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions
Other side to this
It’s good for the league to have teams embrace the CCL as opposed to treating it like a burden. Seattle is taking the right approach.
However, it’s also very easy to embrace it when you’re healthy, winning, and have a 5 point gap between you and the 9th place team in the MLS standings. That’s a big factor. MLS’s tiny rosters make it very difficult for the teams that don’t get out in front of the playoff chase to use their best players in two tournaments. Seattle has the depth right now to spread their talent across 10 more MLS games, 6 CCL games, and at least 1 more USOC game. However, a couple injuries from now you could easily see a full squad of second-choice players turning out at Saprissa (take heart; United got a 2-2 draw there, and we were in particularly bad form at the time. Rod Dyachenko scored the tying goal!) or somewhere else.
Essentially, what I’m saying is that CarlosT’s post is lofty in principle, but experience shows that it will be very, very difficult to live up to in reality. If you guys advance in the CCL and manage to win MLS Cup, I would say it’s far and away Schmid’s best accomplishment as a coach (as well as possibly the best MLS season ever, though there are a couple two-trophy seasons that would offer a formidable argument).
by ChestRockwell on Aug 12, 2010 3:26 AM PDT up reply actions
Assuming you're referring to this post and not some other post Carlos did...
I really don’t think this is a manner of convenience for the Sounders. They have been racked by injuries this year and are hardly a team I’d call healthy. Jhon Kennedy Hurtado, Brad Evans, Nate Jaqua and Osvaldo Alonso were all projected starters who missed significant time. Only Jaqua and Alonso have returned. We’ve also lost backups we were counting on like Michael Fucito and Peter Vagenas, to speak nothing of playing without any of the three DPs the team has had for a significant chunk of the season. I really don’t think health was something that broke our way this year.
I do think that depth has helped us overcome those things, but it’s the kind of depth that any MLS team willing to spend the money can create. This post was actually conceived under the assumption that most teams can’t build a side like this. Looking at the salary numbers, I was wrong. The Sounders’ median salary is actually on the low end in MLS. They are doing this with something like nine players making less than $70k.
No one pretends this can happen every year, but it is refreshing to have an FO that is willing to throw off the shackles of excuse making and go for it.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Aug 12, 2010 8:25 AM PDT up reply actions
I love the "side" competitions
and I think they make for more (football) intelligent, deep fans. I’ve learned more over the last two years by following USOC and CCL about the broader football universe than if I had, say, only attended home MLS matches. I think this is a great move by the FO – their dedication to all competitions – because more matches that matter mean more fans being heavily involved, which benefits everyone. I know the original point wasn’t anything about the business of it all, but I think it’s a very savvy move on their part. SSFC can clearly pack the terraces, but now they need a way to keep them packed. Winning USOC and CCL matches / trophies does that.
by Nick_in_Seattle on Aug 12, 2010 2:50 PM PDT reply actions

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