Bob Bradley Under Contract through 2014
It was announced today that Bradley will remain the US National Team Coach for the foreseeable future. I am likely supposed to write something with a strong opinion on this. I should state one of the following;
Bastards at USSF don't know what they are doing at all. They wasted the opportunity and continued their nepotism.
or
Bradley did so well he didn't deserve to lose his job. His tactical awareness is decent and he took the Nats some place they have never been.
I find it hard to be too passionate right now about this decision. Maybe I'm still too excited over the win, or that I'm looking towards the US Open Cup match-up with Chivas USA in the Semi-Final.
But, one of the main reasons I'm not an extremist on the position is because the problem really hasn't been the coaching. Whether Bradley used a 4-1-3-2, or 4-2-2-2 or whatever wouldn't have been the difference.
The United States of America just doesn't have the talent to be better than a 15-25 best nation. That's the problem, and Bob Bradley can't solve that. American colleges, MLS Academies, the ODP, the lower divisions - that's where the solution is.
That's the future that excites me.
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I only have two major complaints. I think Bradley relies too heavily on European based talent, even if that talent is sitting on the bench and hasn’t played in six months. I’d like to see guys in form play more minutes.
Two, his system doesn’t seem to be able to create control of the ball. If we can sit back and counter attack it does fine, but as soon as we play a game where we are expected to carry posession and break down the other team, we look like idiots out there.
I'm pretty neutral on this
On one hand, there is the issue Dave brings up about not having the skill to be any better than 15-25 ranked. I agree with this, in general. It’s just not something out nation’s soccer infrastructure can produce at this point, but things look to be on an upward trend
On the other hand, I don’t think he is coaching the team to full potential. We had a tough time against both Algeria and Slovenia, who are minnow countries. I think there was a combination of poor lineup choices in some games and overall disconnection between players that I think maybe some more effective coaching would’ve been able to mitigate.
One thing a lot of analysts also never really point out is that we can very close to being in last in our WC group, if it weren’t for the incredible comeback against Slovenia and the last minute goal against Algeria. The Confederations Cup too also was flukey. I don’t think those achievements were masterminded by Bradley, I think it was something that just luckily happened.
I guess maybe I’m more negative on this than neutral. I don’t think Bradley’s bad, but I think there are probably better options out there.
I'd have to agree with much of this.
The thing is for me… will Bradley get us to the World Cup next cycle? probably. Will we do any better than we have this cycle? not likely. I don’t think Bradley has the coaching ability to take the team to the next level (even with the right players). He showed his decision making for line-up choices was very poor throughout the World Cup. I just don’t see how this helps us out the next 4 years.
I agree with what you wrote below
in that this was the “safe” choice. Everyone is screaming Klinsmann, and for sure that is the sexy popular choice. But I don’t know if he is/was the answer. I am in no position to say who would be a better choice, but I just feel in my gut that Bradley isn’t really the one to carry us farther.
by chrisperry1983 on Aug 31, 2010 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions
+1
“The United States of America just doesn’t have the talent to be better than a 15-25 best nation. That’s the problem, and Bob Bradley can’t solve that. American colleges, MLS Academies, the ODP, the lower divisions – that’s where the solution is.”
Dave, thank you. Thank you for opening me and the rest of the world to the idea, that a coach only has so much ability and power.
I don't look forward to the next 4 years now
Like some others have said elsewhere, I don’t think Klinsmann was necessarily the answer, but we need someone new. I don’t think I can look back on the last four years and say that Bradley was spectacular by any means. Which to me says that he is probably not the right choice. Hiring Bradley again is the safe decision. They don’t want to pay anyone much and obviously too lazy to look beyond Klinsmann.
If Bradley has brought anything to the USMNT in the last 4 years it was luck, and luck ain’t going to get us farther in the World Cup. Every result in the WC really was kind of a fluke. We tied England on a horrid goalie mistake, we tied slovenia from being two goals down (any other day I doubt the US would have won that game), and Algeria we barely beat on a last minute goal. Even Ghana beat us even though we are the better team. We were lucky for the Confed Cup as well.
Here’s to another 4 years of barely edging out (or losing) against weaker opponents!
It because we can't carry the play to the opponent
Our style works just as well against the top 10 as it does the next 70. We don’t have that gear that can put away lesser teams with ease. We aren’t comforable in possession and we don’t have fowards that can play in tight spaces in the box.
Our entire front line is designed to counter attack and our center mids are picked almost exclusively for their ability to ball hawk and recover possession, not for their play making.
As someone pointed about above, we were two late goals away from miserable WC failure, no position to rest on our laurals and think we have this game figured out.
2014 = 2006 all over again.
Meh.
My problem with Bob Bradley is the same problem i saw with Bavasi era Mariners. Too much reliance on “types” of players. This is of course highlighted by the call for Findley to start over and over again in the World Cup. He wanted a small fast striker to go with his big muscular striker. So instead of starting the player in the best form he played someone that wasn’t even starting for his MLS team.
I still think he did a pretty good job with the talent he is given. Like I said, the reup is just meh. Not terrible but also not great. I guess that fits US Soccer at the moment… We’re not terrible anymore, but we are also not great yet.
Meh +1
Getting a foreign coach won’t be easy. Those that are truly interested in advancing the cause (and I include Klinsmann in that group) will want to tinker with (or blow up) the existing player development paradigm.
I don’t see the federation willing to give that much power to one person. Therefore you’ll get a Bob Bradley. Hopefully he can use the next two years before qualifying to improve his decision-making.
I disagree with you on tactics
If Greece can win a European Championship, the US can do better than fluking their way out of the group stages and losing in the second round.
by Graham MacAree on Aug 31, 2010 10:37 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Klinnsman
“The United States of America just doesn’t have the talent to be better than a 15-25 best nation. That’s the problem, and Bob Bradley can’t solve that. American colleges, MLS Academies, the ODP, the lower divisions – that’s where the solution is.”
I agree with that point mostly, although we currently won’t be better than 15-25, the WC this past summer allowed us a chance to progress further than we did. There were some very questionable roster selections.
The thing with the youth system, academies, college, etc. is a good point. Wasn’t that something that Jurgen Klinnsman wanted to address? Wasn’t he, and Low of course, influential in revamping German Youth system which did well in 2006, not to mention the amazing young squad in 2010? Wasn’t the lack of control and input over youth system a reason why we didn’t sign him originally? The thing is if youth development is important why aren’t we using someone like Klinnsman who has the division on holistically improving American Soccer. Did Bradley do anything or strive to have more input in player development?
Bob Bradley is a good coach, but I think we could do better and need someone who has a larger vision for what American soccer should be.
-Ben R.
Klinnsman wants to eliminate college soccer
Which isn’t really a great idea as it would eliminate players that have already been deemed unworthy.
College to me is a great second chance for late bloomers – Steve Zakuani for one.
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Wasn’t that more to do with the pay structure? The idea that in order to develop as a soccer player the player foots the bill? The problem with college soccer is that to do it you have to chase after scholarships and still take out loans to play soccer. Similarly youth soccer puts the bill on parents to put their kids on select teams to get the best coaching and what not. Isn’t Klinsmann comparing the USA’s backwards investment system to the German system where Bundesliga puts a record setting percentage of their money into developing youth instead of limiting access to good soccer training to those with money? I don’t think I’d like to see the college system go, and it is a good way to prepare late bloomers while giving them an educational alternative to soccer, I do think Klinnsman does a good job of pointing out the problems and knows how to try to address them.
I remember reading this NYTimes article about the Ajax Youth System and how if that is representative of good soccer development the USA really does have it backwards. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/06/magazine/06Soccer-t.html
-Ben R.
Youth Soccer is No Longer Limited to those with money
MLS Academies are very low cost and have scholarships
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Are they actually catching a lot of players? What about those outside of an MLS club’s radius?
-Ben R.
Each MLS club is allowed 2 players per Academy team outside of the 50 mile area
Within the past month there have been more than a dozen signings
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I've been having a hard time getting worked up over this, one way or the other.
We did get lucky, but it takes luck to advance in the World Cup. Bradley’s line-up and substitution decisions bordered on horrific, but then again, the games were decided by the actions of our best players, not guys 12-23. Also, getting pissed at Bradley doesn’t change the fact that while our depth of talent has improved greatly over the last 8 years, it’s not like we have Cesc Fabregas sitting on the bench ready to come in and take hold of a game if needed. Bradley did, in my opinion, do a good job organizing and maximizing the abilities of his players.
Sunil Gulati’s mission is to develop US soccer, players and coaches. Not only has no nation ever won a World Cup with a foreign coach, but Gulati won’t give a guy like Klinsmann latitude they would want to radically alter the player development paradigm. US Soccer by its structure, unlike other nations like Germany, doesn’t give the national team coach dictatorial power to shape the development program. Whether that’s right or wrong, it is, to be trite, what it is and changing it would be a massive political battle that would have to be fought by many people within US Soccer.
So that left basically two legitimate alternatives: Another round of Bruce Arena, or our very own Sigi Schmid. Neither one would have offered anything much different than Bradley, other than change for change’s sake.
Bradley does strike me as the kind of coach who does, given time, adjust his practices. I hope I’m right. Then again Graham’s spot on about Greece. I’ll now quit wasting your time and go prevaricate by myself.
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agree on the "MEH"
I’ve talked to guys who are genuinely heartbroken and depressed about this decisions, but to me, it is just “meh”, I’m not quite worked up enough to be devastated by this announcement.
There was no guarantee Klinnsman would’ve succeeded, and at the end of the day USSF and Gulati chose evolution over revolution (although there are those who would, perhaps quite rightly, point out that we are not “evolving”). If it is indeed true that Klinnsman wanted to eliminate college soccer, well, that was NEVER going to fly, quite frankly…
so it is what it is. Bradley was actually not a bad manager for 4 years, you could even say he did a “good” job, but I think the general consensus among supporters was that we needed some kind of “foreign influence” and a “refresh” for the next W.C. cycle. We didn;t get that…
We have won 4 World Cup matches in my lifetime. Maybe we’ll win a couple more by 2022, maybe we’ll make a round of 16, but as always it will depend much on our draw. In this way, we have much in common with dozens of other countries, and any thoughts of us moving up a tier in the global pecking order by the time we next host the W.C. will always be optimistic or hopeful, whether we’d hired Klinnsman or not…
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by malcontentjake on Aug 31, 2010 11:52 AM PDT reply actions
It's just so underwhelming
It’s now looking like we’ll have two coaches in 16 years. Countries that do that normally do so because they are winning. Bradley and Arena deserve credit for bringing the U.S. into competitiveness, but there’s no reason to believe the program is capable of taking the next step. Obviously, that’s more of a talent issue, but Bradely doesn’t seem capable of addressing that issue. Who’s to say if someone else could, but this is just … underwhelming.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Aug 31, 2010 12:40 PM PDT reply actions
Agree wholeheartedly.
Its not that I dislike Bradley. This just seems like we are accepting the status quo, and acknowledging that we are content to be good not great.
Good enough, is not good enough. Lets be great, lets find someone who can, and will, improve us.
Or at very least try to improve us...
No coach, foreign or native, is going to be a sure success but I’d rather have someone trying to do something different than the same stagnant kind of team we’ve had the last few World Cup cycles. We already know what Bradley can do and I think most people feel he’s not good enough. So try someone new.
Just have to wait for the NFL to lose luster...
Every year the rule changes push it to a flag football type format, and with the scares of concussions becoming more conscious, its only a matter of time before parents start finding soccer as a better alternative.
I have a friend who is a high school football coach who has been lamenting reduced participation for years.
Part of it may be soccer, part of it is fear of injury but the biggest issue seems to be that many kids do not care about sports as much anymore.
Is there no room for Bob Bradley to improve himself?
Maybe he hasn’t learned anything over the last four years that he didn’t know already, or maybe he refuses to learn anything, but I don’t think that Bob Bradley is necessarily destined to be the same exact coach he was the last four years.
The way I see it...
…you have to give Bradley a 4-year deal even if he’s not really going to be around for four years. Probably the biggest problem I have with this is that BB probably won’t find any talent that he hasn’t already spotted. I do think it’s nice to have somebody come in and take a look at a few players who might otherwise have been overlooked by an incumbent.
Otherwise, we did better than expected in the Confed Cup under Bradley, we won our WC Qualifying group, and we got to the knockout stages in the World Cup. Maybe there’s some tactical genius out there who would love to coach the US, and could do a lot better than that, but I’m not really convinced.
It's the philosophy!
We can have improvement if the “type” of player selected is changed and we have a coach capable of identifying and properly utilizing the “right players”.
“Quality and finesse” must be prioritized over “robotic strength”. Bradley does not subscribe to this.
I’ll keep it simple. Let’s just look at what players were preferred by BB in the WC.
The techinical quality and soccer IQ of Fielhaber and Torres is far superior to Ricardo Clark or Edu.
But BB chooses the latter which have ZERO creative capacity.
Similarly the technical quality and IQ of Gomez and even Buddle (to a lesser extent) is far superior to Altidore or Finley.
But BB chooses the latter.
Why? He does not know how to harness attributes other than athleticism.
And this sets the tone for our youth and amateur levels. It is a vicious cycle that can only be broken with new blood.
by Gary @ 3four3.com on Sep 3, 2010 2:09 PM PDT reply actions

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