Gamethread: Seattle Sounders Hosting Chivas USA in US Open Cup SemiFinal
by Dave Clark on Sep 1, 2010 5:30 PM PDT
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Remember when Seattle wins this match the Sounders will host the US Open Cup Final at Qwest Field.
Chivas USA has some issues with the number of international players in their regular lineup, and so the USSF rule for the Open Cup about only having 5 "internationals" probably limits them from starting a truly strong squad. It is also Chivas USA a team that has had a pretty bad year. But, they've made the Semi Final and have a solid keeper (one who haunts Seattle) and so they have a chance.
What can Seattle do to win?
1 - Use Wing Speed to Create Width - Yes, I know Starfire is narrow and plays narrower, but width is really about space. One way to create space is to use fast wing players to make those deep runs and stretch the defense. Whether or not they have the ball this still pulls a defender away from what can become a very crowded center.
2 - Stop Justin Braun - To quote the DSF story linked above about him "Think Brian Ching, only younger, bigger, faster and packing more athleticism." That's a pretty good player. I'd stop him probably by just marking him with one of the bulky centerbacks. Tyrone Marshall would be my favorite in that role. Aggressive, with a reputation for fouling, Marshall's veteran wiles could slow Braun down, and then the lack of space means help is always near.
3 - Score a Goal - Yeah, I know. But Zach Thornton has Seattle's number to this point, so its time for something different. Lateral ball movement should help. But this is a monkey, a mountain of a monkey, on Seattle's back. They need an early goal in order to not be thinking late "we'll never get one."
4 - Play Mike Fucito - Because seriously, he's already got a stoppage time winner, and if Stephen King is going to go down in Sounders lore, why can't "the Harvard kid?" Mike's low center of gravity, thick frame, pace and proven scoring ability scream for a game at Starfire.
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Good points on Fucito
I really do think that he’d be good @ Starfire and he’s got to be hungry. I hope he sees the field tonight. Even he said he’s probably not 90 mins fit, but he’d be a great sub.
I'm coming after you, Dave
Tyrone Marshall would be my favorite in that role.
My heart can’t take this.
I hope the stream of this game is better than last time. Yuck.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Sigi is taking this game 4 srs.
Makin his srs face.
Will somebody please pass the f**king asparagus?
DC choked
but you could see it going south when they started to allow Columbus to lauch a ball into the box every 30 seconds to so and only had 10 men to defend.
Hope not
The boys will push through. He is terrible, though.
He's touchy and authoritarian
but doesn’t generally stand for physical play.
Reasons to hate salazar:
1: Gave Montero a yellow for getting pushed over in the playoffs last year.
2: Called for the red to Leo for getting hit in the face.
My recommendation: Don’t get fouled – He might card you.
I like the Soundwave
Makes me miss playing the bass drum in marching band :)
by Dizzo on Sep 1, 2010 7:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
What's the matter with them?
As my marching band director used to say “Without the band, it’s just a game.”
well I hate all manners of marching bands, on a personal level.
also, I dont think it belongs in this sport, you dont see marching bands in hockey, basketball, or any sport outside of football I think.
It is just out of place, I dont misconstrue this as a promotion of “europeanizing” american soccer…I just dont like it.
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Meh. The Seahawks have a band, too.
Marching bands are fun. We clearly disagree.
And bands are way less annoying than, say, PA music or vuvuzuelas.
If they ever get cheerleaders let me know.
Then I’d be pissed.
What if they replaced Soundwave with cheerleaders?
Neutral?
by magistermilitum on Sep 1, 2010 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Not in my opinion.
Band>Cheerleaders. (For the type of thing we’re discussing anyway)
IF the Sounders had cheerladers...
what would we call them? Sounders F-Shes?
Sound Gals.
I always liked the name Sea Gals, though cheerleaders for professional sports are stupid.
6k in the house?
very solid turnout
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 1, 2010 7:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I think it's officially
just over 5K or something, right?
They've been expanding it I hear.
Only 2k per the out-of-date wikipedia article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starfire_Sports_Complex
by magistermilitum on Sep 1, 2010 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions
5k supposedly
but there seems to be more than that
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 1, 2010 7:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I hate that dumb touch by Jaqua.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Ohh, new camera angles
I fucking hate you Mariners
Mostly iced and Brian.
They keep us level.
by magistermilitum on Sep 1, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
If we're ever going to score on a corner
this might be the game
It was easier than it seemed
after all the buildup about it.
Wow!
I thougt Zak has looked composed in the box. Nice job Jaqua and Zak.
Great work by Zak to turn the corner
by Dizzo on Sep 1, 2010 7:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
At least it wasn't to the other team. Progress!
I fucking hate you Mariners
What? a long ball by Marshall?
That never happens.
I really wish the camera would zoom out a little.
It’s impossible to watch the passing, especially on the near side.
Yeah, when I get hit in the head I roll around in pain.
I fucking hate you Mariners
ACtually, they should waste all the time they want
(not that I think he is), but we’re up.
Exactly
it could take a while to die from a dive.
Great ball Alonso
I fucking hate you Mariners
So, what's the consensus on Arlo's announcing?
I feel he’s fine, but I’m willing to have my opinion shaped by peer pressure.
I do miss Calabro, even if he wasn’t really that great at announcing soccer.
Don't get me wrong, Calabro calling basketball is one of the most beautiful things to listen to in all of sports.
Calabro talking about anything else is awful.
I like him.
Only reason I liked Calabro was the whole sentimental one.
I'm with you.
People get sentimentally attached to baseball announcers all the time when they aren’t any good. Usually, they turn awful because they’re old. With Calabro, it’s just that he doesn’t know the sport.
I’ve only listened to about 5 minutes of his talk show, so I don’t hold that against him.
Are you specifically referring to Dave Niehaus?
If so I agree. He needs to retire.
by magistermilitum on Sep 1, 2010 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Only slightly.
It happened moreso with Carey and Harwell elsewhere. I want Dave Niehaus to live forever and always announce Mariners games.
Not cool.
Like telling my grandpa he needs to die.
Not really
but both would mean that I never get to hear the person again, which makes them a bit more similar in this case.
Big big thumbs up
Best soccer announcer in the country, hands down. I like Calabro, but Arlo is better. I hope FSN picks up Calabro for college bball.
We've been controlling possesion
A few good opportunities as well
by Dizzo on Sep 1, 2010 8:10 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
SOMEONE RUN FAR POST. GOODNESS
I fucking hate you Mariners
They've had a lot of posession int the attacking thirdl lately
Com on Soudners. Get it back.
He thought it was a call and response. Waiting for "Landing"
I fucking hate you Mariners
by kentroyals5 on Sep 1, 2010 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
he was out for 3 games with something that didnt merit an ambulance, hurtado the entire season.
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If you ever see an ambulance on the field
you should fear for the guy’s life, not just his season.
NIce shot by Riley, though.
Looked like a striker almost
If he can do that from the right back position and still run back to defend...
Perhaps he’s in the right spot?
at least they had the decency to have an attractive cymbalist or two.
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Funny.. that actually is what I was thinking.
by magistermilitum on Sep 1, 2010 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you think about how the one cymbalist really isn't all that attractive?
by magistermilitum on Sep 1, 2010 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
It's been about 10 million times better than the last one
I can actually see this one for more than 10 sec without it loading all the time.
I think the decision was made to have it in Starfire
because it wouldn’t draw enough fans to make it worth it to host at Qwest.
Not at all.
But a game in a mostly empty staduim isn’t all that great.Better atmosphere in a packed, smaller venue.
Dunno why we should ever lose a USOC game… Jaqua+USOC game=goals…seems pretty straightforward to me
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What if we play Phila. next year?
Jaqua + USOC > Seba + USOC?
What an amazing ball.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Exactly - why rest him?
Not like they’re competing for anything meaningful in MLS.
Damnit..finish boys. AHH
I fucking hate you Mariners
Alonso doesn't do everything well
His corners just aren’t that good.
Okay
I’d officially like an insurance goal now please. Can someone arrange that for me?
Wow - another sub of maybe dubious quality
I don’t watch many Chivas games, but I thought Saragosa was the stronger player.
Gotta be ready for that playoff run
don’t you know
We certainly haven't dominated anything
this half, despite having better chances.
OH MY!!! AMAZING!!
I fucking hate you Mariners
You have the secret batphone hookup
to Montero don’t you?
That was just pretty
And that’s all I have to say about that
Goals vs Chivas
are like pringles. You can’t have just one.
by Nevtelen on Sep 1, 2010 8:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
"it was a dull game"
I love how honest Arlo is at times.
Pretty soon
Get Estrada or Fucito some time, I’d say.
When Alonso goes far post
he REALLY goes far post.
Damn...
Had to go take care of something… missed the goal. Was it pretty?
Yes, yes it was
Zak to Montero. Beautiful cross at speed.
Welcome to the game, Seamon!
Here’s a little foul for you! Chivas is so nice.
You've got Seamon on your shirt, Seamon on your shirt
Will somebody please pass the f**king asparagus?
Now they're pressing like crazy
and we’re chasing the game. Not good.
Arlo said Tuckwilla
And got the pronunciation right
by Dizzo on Sep 1, 2010 9:04 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I always thought that Calabro did his hmwk well
He just didn’t know soccer.
At the beginning of the season
when we played Toronto Arlo was able to go on and on about everything that was going on in Toronto. That man goes for extra credit.
Fredy and Zak are going to be playing their way our of this league soon.
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Good thing we're wearing Electric
I fucking hate you Mariners
"Are those flares?... Naughty girls and boys
I love Arlo
I like that there is smoke
but I wish it obscured the picture a little less.
Trujillo: fouls well, crosses poorly.
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by iced on Sep 1, 2010 9:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Bullshit foul call
I fucking hate you Mariners
Jaqua should have tapped that in
Nice job Seamon.
In a couple of seasons he could be a
very solid sub or a starter.
Alonso is not only good
he’s clutch. How many late attacks does he kill?
When Keller came out for that ball...
I half expected him to drop kick a player, and tear one in half.
Now Arlo is just flouting
the whole Tukwilla thing.
JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQUA!
by magistermilitum on Sep 1, 2010 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Congrats
I have the same record for matches in person. Sign?
by magistermilitum on Sep 1, 2010 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Ha. That's the first time I've seen the "Take 'em all" banner, with the guy blindfolded with a cigarette.
That’s about as subtle as you can get with that chant.
Jaqua has got to get the golden boot for the Cup
Do they give one out? I don’t remember.
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