Ianni discusses incident with Joseph
Patrick Ianni is as tough a soccer player as you'll ever find.
The 6-foot-1 wrecking ball has clashed heads with Conor Casey and come away unscathed, while Casey had to leave the game with a huge gash on his head. Ianni regularly matches up with the biggest, baddest players on the opposing team and never seems to come out worse for the wear.
So, it was a little surprising to see him falling to the ground in apparent agony after being slapped across the neck by New England's Shalrie Joseph, who himself fell to the ground after striking Ianni. Whether or not Joseph made strong contact, it's hard to believe Ianni was in as much pain as he seemed to indicate during the ensuing several-minute stoppage of play.
The whole incident -- which did not draw so much as a yellow card from referee Silviu Petrescu -- has left a bitter taste in the mouths of many who witnessed it. On one hand, you have two players who were obviously trying to sell their cases by embellishing the extent of their pain. On the other, you have a referee who appeared powerless to control the match.
(Here's the link from the New England feed; and the link from the Seattle feed)
Facing the media for the first time since Saturday, Ianni was willing to talk about the altercation, but also seemed intent on putting it behind him.
"Every game there are mutliple altercations in the box and referees can more or less call a penalty on every corner kick if they wanted," Ianni said. "So it's a tough call for (Petrescu) to make and it's a part of the game."
Another part of the game, Ianni admitted, is the penchant for players to overreact to fouls. For his part, Ianni said his reaction was more borne out of surprise that no card was being issued than out of physical pain.
"It's almost an embarrassing culture as far as soccer," Ianni said about the tendency to embellish. "But people have to understand that it's part of protecting yourself. My reaction was that I couldn't believe after getting hit in the face twice (Ianni said he had been punched in the face moments before the exchange with Joseph) that the referee was not going toward Joseph and was kind of standing there. I just couldn't believe it."
Ianni acknowledged his role in escalating the situation, coyly saying "I did touch his foot", but is now taking the view -- at least in public -- that Petrescu ultimately tried to do the right thing by keeping his cards in his pocket.
"You can say whatever you want about the referee, but I think he handled it well," Ianni said. "There are a million different things he could have done in that scenario and I think he was in a tough position. They always are. I don't think he made a terrible solution.
"I think he's got to base it off of what he saw and that's a tough thing. ... It was just a matter of him calling what he sees and not going off the embellishment."
Unfortunately, this kind of thing is an all-too-visible part of soccer. One of the biggest complaints about the game is the way players feign injury in order to draw a penalty or roll around in apparent agony only to be in full working order moments later.
Like everyone, I was disappointed to see two physical players acting as if they'd been assaulted. Still, I think it's important to realize that this kind of thing is hardly unique to soccer. Players in all refereed sports accentuate fouls in order to draw the attention of referees. In soccer, it is more visible because of the importance fouls can play.
But I was even more disappointed that the solution was to do nothing. Ianni indicated that he thought no card was issued because neither Petrescu nor the sideline referee had a clear view of what happend. I have a hard time believing that since Petrescu appeared to be looking right at them as the whole series of events transpired.
I'd like to think the league is still looking at the incident. At the very least, I'm hoping MLS will acknowledge that one or both of the players should have been carded and that Petrescu erred in doing nothing.
Sounders coach Sigi Schmid does not seem so optimistic.
"Apparently the only people that saw that were in Seattle," Schmid said of the Joseph's slap. "Our broadcast on KONG showed it very clearly. When you look at the broadcast that the league used, which was the broadcast they had in New England, it was very unclear. You really couldn't see anything and it was off to the edge of the picture. We're trying to get the league to look at our broadcast and then they can draw their own conclusions."
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I was watching the New England feed
They were calling for a red card for Ianni, and he definitely looked like the bad guy in the situation.
I watched both feeds
On the NER feed you don’t see the Joseph slap. In the Sounders feed you don’t see the foot stomp. BTW – the foot stomp is a little hard to make out even on the replay.
Shame on the producers of both feeds for being homers and not showing both sides of the incident.
What's really odd
Is that i have never heard that stepping on another player’s foot is an automatic Red. There is judgement allowed per intent.
But USSF and FIFA are in agreement that a blow to the head or neck is ALWAYS a Red.
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Did Joseph deser a red? Probably. But that’s not what bothers me about this whole thing. Ianni should not have stepped on his foot in the first place. He was winning the battle with Joseph playing soccer, we were beating NE playing soccer. We should have been focusing on doing all the little things right and close out the win, not get involved in this silliness. The incident threw the focus of the team and cost us the game. We got to remember we got the streak going by getting away from that stuff and focussing on playing the game in a disciplined fashion.
I hope the lesson isn’t lost.
by PeterJH on Sep 8, 2010 1:41 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
Not excusing Ianni, but
according to him Joseph had just punched him about 30 seconds before the alleged stomp. That still doesn’t make Ianni right, but it’s hard to blame him for reacting. It’s a physical game and this kind of stuff happens all the time. On this particular occasion, it backfired on the Sounders. I think the only thing they can learn from this incident is how they reacted once the cards weren’t shown.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 8, 2010 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions
if that were the case
Then Ianni shoudl have taken it as a point of pride in that he was winning the battle and getting under Joseph’s skin, and keep playing disciplined. Maybe you can’t blame him, but I don’t think there was any good reason for him to go step on Joseph’s foot, not when you are winning at the individual and team level.
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Fouls don't mean more in soccer
Imagine if the NFL had only one ref who could throw a flag. Don’t you think you’d see a lot more embellishing of fouls? This would not be a problem if they just added a few more refs to the pitch.
UEFA Champions League is doing this
Adding two more on each endline
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Fouls do mean more
It’s the only sport where a referee can send a player off for the entire match and that player can not be replaced. There’s also no equivalent to the penalty kick in any other sport. In hockey, there’s far more scoring and a penalty shot is not as likely to be successful.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 8, 2010 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe you're right...
But I still don’t think that’s WHY players exaggerate fouls. They roll on the pitch every time they’re touched because everyone knows if they don’t, the foul won’t get called.
by Pete Albertson on Sep 8, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions
But WHY do they want fouls called?
It’s because fouls are so important.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 8, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions

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