This is the infamous "other angle" that we heard about. Honestly, I'm not sure you can see much of anything. Also worth noting that Simon Borg says Patrick Ianni got a yellow card, which he of course did not. Anyway, this will give you an idea of what the home office is looking at.
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Simon Borg says Joseph's actions justified?
Unfortunate this is the only angle they bothered looking at. I don’t see how you can say in any case striking someone in the neck is justified no matter the case.
by LikkitP on Sep 8, 2010 3:46 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
You'd like to think the people at MLS have access to the other feed
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Does anyone have footage from Seattle's feed?
If so, could they please upload it and provide a link, because I don’t think Simon Borg has seen it yet
by Jean-Paul Gentry on Sep 8, 2010 5:17 PM PDT reply actions
Really?
The Seattle angle has a close up of Joseph slapping at Ianni. This one is a long angle that barely catches anything.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 8, 2010 5:42 PM PDT up reply actions
That's not what I meant
I meant, why are the feeds so different? Did we hire our own film crew and send them to the stadium? Or did some producer cut different angles to different broadcasts?
by chrisperry1983 on Sep 9, 2010 5:49 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh... that makes a lot more sense
On the road we bring our own production crew and then hire locals to shoot for us. Basically, I think we end up with two almost entirely different broadcasts.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Sep 9, 2010 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions
Ahh gotcha
That seems weird to me. I figured the network had people out there and did the whole thing. I wonder if that’s normal practice. We sure could’ve used our own team in Honduras!
by chrisperry1983 on Sep 9, 2010 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
When the games are not on a network (KONG games)
There will be two sets of local broadcast teams.
Sometimes a network game will have two as well (one for spanish language, or local dual cast at times)
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Ridiculous
Seriously, someone must have DVR’d this – let’s put the true version out there. All youtube has is the lame goal highlights from the Revs feed.
It’s shocking that this MLS show didn’t even get the final decision correct (after doing all that research to contact the disciplinary committee!)
And yeah, this angle is basically worthless, since it’s so far away and it begins too late in the altercation to see the sequence of events (Ianni walks over, steps on Joseph, Joseph swings back, Ianni staggers away, Joseph falls down clutching his ankle, Ianni falls to his knees grabbing his neck.)
I don’t get all the concern over “simulation” either – this was a shocking incident and both players wanted to be sure they had the refs attention. Unsporting, yes, but hardly the same as the flops in the box we see in open play.
We really deserve better than this, as a team, as a league, and as fans (at least the retroactive punishments should be correctly decided!)
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying the ref screwed us out of three points (our shambles of a defense was well on the way to that from the first minute) – but there’s no doubt we were clinging by our fingernails before this fracas blew our fragile concentration to smithereens.
THIS is the other angle.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSt0C7Xw50I
Notice how Shalie doesn’t go down until AFTER he slaps Ianni. Honestly, both players acted stupidly and the just thing would have been to red card both. Unfortunately, the ref was only gonna red card Ianni because apparently “stars” in MLS can do whatever the hell they want. Luckily for Ianni, his teammates stood up for him.
Thank you
Hopefully Simon has seen this by now.
by chrisperry1983 on Sep 9, 2010 5:50 AM PDT up reply actions
Watching this angle of the incident, I now can see why many Revs fans were aghast at my assertion that both Joseph and Ianni deserved red cards.
Now that the other angle is available, I’d hope they understand where I’m coming from.















