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Seattle Sounders Training Camp Emphasizes Roster Competition Between Young And Old

Sigi Schmid is using the Sounders' huge roster of players to try some things, including throwing his roster of youngsters and invitees straight into the fire.

Before I get started with a few observations from training camp, I should introduce, or re-introduce, myself. I'm Brian and I write for CougCenter, SB Nation's WSU site, as well as SB Nation Seattle and the main SB Nation site. Dave and Jeremiah were so kind as to let me tag along to practice this week, and I made it back again today as the Sounders worked at the VMAC. I'll be randomly popping in to practices -- when they're in town, of course -- and may hop over to share some thoughts here.

I wrote about the scrimmages today over at SB Nation Seattle and the teams the players were split-up into. One team was clearly the starters, filled with players you'd expect to see in the first XI when the season starts. With a few exceptions, those roles are more-or-less set, and are likely to stay fairly static as training camp and the season progresses.

What struck me, however, was how the other two teams were formed. On one team -- the grays -- youth was served. On the other -- oranges -- it was more of a veteran-laden squad of reserves. The starters and youth scrimmaged first, followed by the starters and veteran reserves, with the youth and reserve veterans capping the practice.

With any head coach, everything is done for a reason. In this case, the reason Dave and I both arrived at independently had to do with competition. In this training camp, with almost 40 players dressed, there's a lot on the line. Younger players are looking to make a name for themselves, players are working to make the team and, among those already on the team, many are fighting for a spot in the 18.

Star-divide

And that's where the separation of players comes in. The competition in camp isn't youth vs. youth for those final roster spots, it's young vs. old. Watching the scrimmage, Michael Tetteh and Leone Cruz were opposite veterans such as O'Brian White and Mike Fucito. Not only is it good from a competition standpoint, but also from an experience standpoint.

Many of these players will likely spend much of their time developing together; building a rapport as they work their way up the ranks. In that regard, it's better to throw them all on one team and let them work with, not against, each other.

Not only does it give the younger players some experience together, it also gives the coaching staff a better way to evaluate the new faces. How much can you learn from a bunch of invitees scrimmaging against each other? The level of competition isn't exactly high in that case. Instead, they were up against the starters and other veterans -- a much tougher task.

It would appear the youngsters are going head-up with the veterans for roster spots. It's not a battle amongst themselves, but instead a free-for-all among those not safely in the starting XI. It's early, but keep an eye on how the youngsters fare as they begin to develop a rapport throughout camp.

Quick notes I didn't add at SBN Seattle

I'm quickly growing to love O'Brian White. He's fast -- much faster than you'd think. White finished with the second fastest 30-yard-dash time behind Steve Zakuani. For a player his size, that's pretty impressive. The pairing of White at the target spot and Fucito at the WF spot was interesting and exciting. There's a lot of speed there.

The first round, between the starters and youngsters, was scoreless, but the action opened up over the next two scrimmages. In all, three goals were scored: Steve Zakuani drilled one off the left win inside the 18 and in past Terry Boss; Eduardo Kabamba had what was easily the goal of the day, winning a ball in the air on the right wing just outside the box before hitting a laser-volley; O'Brian White had a cleanup goal after Servando Carrasco hit the crossbar.

Kabamba had an outstanding day on the right wing, but tweaked his hamstring toward the end. He finished the scrimmages, but we don't know how much it'll have an effect on him. He's on trial with the Sounders, but his speed and assassin-like shot are intriguing.

Jhon Kennedy Hurtado has been a full-participant, but worked with the second-team on Friday. I spoke with Jeff Parke after practice and will have something later about center back pairings and what the Sounders may do with it this year. For the record, the first team was Parke and Patrick Ianni while the second-team was Hurtado and Tyson Wahl.

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I've added a depth chart going three deep based on today's scrimmages - Dave

 

 

Nkufo

White !

 

 

 

Zakuani !

Montano

Levesque

 

Montero !

Fucito

Neagle (t) - Estrada

 

Fernandez

Kabamba ! (t)

Bah (t)

 

 

Evans

Friberg

Seamon

 

 

Gonzalez

Earls

Tetteh

 

Alonso

Carrasco

Caskey -Preito (t)

 

Riley

Scott
Attaway

 

Ianni

Hurtado

Cruz

 

Parke

Wahl

Peverley (t)

 

 

 

Keller

Boss

Ford - Meredith

 

 

Injured and did not scrimmage: Jaqua, Noonan, Graham.
Bold for First XI
! - for a goal scorer
(t) - for a trailist
Two names seperated by a - played on the same team, but partial time. Except for Neagle and Estrada as I could list either as a TF.

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Some interesting notes

Among the trialists are a 22-year-old with a cap with the New Zealand National team (Cole Peverley) and another who was playing in the top Belgian League (Edouard Kambaba).

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jan 28, 2011 5:31 PM PST reply actions  

That seems unusual to have trialists with high credentials like this

I don’t remember that from the past two years. Is this happening with other teams as well?

Karma police, arrest this man.

by wyte_lightning on Jan 28, 2011 5:56 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Kambaba is young and barely plays

Peverley has 1 cap for a poor national team.

Seattle has had other Belgian League players in in the past (a keeper whose name I don’t remember)

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by Dave Clark on Jan 28, 2011 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I like Kambaba

Mostly because he was fun as heck to watch today. It’s the little things.

by Brian Floyd on Jan 28, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

A poor National Team!!!

The only unbeaten team in SA that finished above Italy in Group Play!!!

"Kia Kaha" -be strong

by Ravengreen on Jan 28, 2011 10:17 PM PST up reply actions  

FYI

Edouard’s last name is spelled “Kabamba”, and he’s not all that young at 24.

He has also played for Real Madrid’s reserve team in the equivalent of the Spanish 3rd division, apparently scoring 16 goals in 08-09.

http://www.realmadrid.com/cs/Satellite/en/1202743194978/jugador/Jugador/Kabamba.htm

by deeplennon on Jan 29, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

and..

Last year he was on loan to Belgian Second division club K.A.S. Eupen who won promotion to the top Belgian league, looks he played 2 whole matches in that campaign.

by deeplennon on Jan 29, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

That info, plus the report on his goal

make him sound pretty good. I wonder how likely it is that we would sign him. We have a fair amount of wing players (including a DP) and while I’m sure he’s not that expensive, I’d bet he’ll want more than $40K/yr.

by Nevtelen on Jan 29, 2011 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

24 is still young. Possible upside

I didn’t have record of his time for Spanish 3rd Division (Spain does not split its Reserves off the pyramid).

His full last name is Kabamba-Wenze, and he barely plays.

24 minutes with Standard Liege in basically three years since. If he isn’t brought here on loan he will be the oldest player on Standard’s Reserves.

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by Dave Clark on Jan 29, 2011 5:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah yes, I can see how what I wrote was confusing. I wrote ‘the equivalent of the spanish third division’ since like in England, the league names are wonky. “Segunda División B”

It seems he’s spent most of his career with Liege on loan elsewhere..

by deeplennon on Jan 30, 2011 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Off topic...

Do we know if not bringing in Julian Baudet will clear cap space for another addition, or will his absence merely allow us to be under the cap, period?

by jacobcda on Jan 28, 2011 6:18 PM PST reply actions  

Considering last year's experience

I fully expect all three to make the team.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jan 28, 2011 6:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you just posted that depth was important

;)

OBW being a better than expected player helps Seattle with that.

34 League
4 Open Cup
8 CCL
10 Reserve Matches
1 Friendly
5 MLS Cup Playoff games (only a guess)

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by Dave Clark on Jan 28, 2011 6:47 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Pump the brakes a little bit there...

I like what I’m hearing about White, but like Allen Iverson said, “We’re talkin’ ’bout practice, man. Practice…”

Jaqua’s injury woes may open things up a little, but he’s a proven scorer at the MLS level. Maybe White just needed the right opportunity. But he still has a lot to prove.

Nkufo? Now you’re just being silly. But I appreciate that you’re just excited about the season :-)

by LordIceman on Jan 28, 2011 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

This gets me so pumped up for first kick!

My worry after we lost Sanna was a loss legitimate speed threats going forward. Hearing about White and possibly Kambaba is exciting!

Thanks for avalanche of content guys! I dig the exclamation points for goal scorers, combined with daily depth charts and excellent commentary, S@H is my favorite web destination of the day.

by GreenST on Jan 28, 2011 8:02 PM PST reply actions  

'of the day'!?

You sir are goign to be banned! :)

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jan 29, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I want to see the speed out there.

I wanna see kambaba, white, zakuani, montero play together up front.

This is what I’m thinking:
White, montero, zakuani, kambaba, friberg, teeteh, Alonso, riley, hurtado, parke, Keller for the starting 11.

by Nic Burke on Jan 28, 2011 10:50 PM PST reply actions  

You'd get faster by dropping Montero and adding Fucito

Ianni over Parke

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by Dave Clark on Jan 28, 2011 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Why not go for all speed

Perhaps we can put some gloves on Evans so we can switch out Keller. Then we can have all 11 players running around the pitch like chickens with their heads cut off. ;-)

by Dizzo on Jan 29, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

True, but montero has more goal scoring capacity imo

We’d have plenty of speed with white zap and kambaba up front, montero just needs to sit and score the goals ;)

by Nic Burke on Jan 29, 2011 10:12 AM PST reply actions  

Working on it

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by Dave Clark on Jan 29, 2011 5:41 PM PST up reply actions  

ok sweet!!

also do you know if anyone was impressive during open tryouts today??

by Sandra_R on Jan 29, 2011 5:48 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't pay attention to open tryouts

I did buy some homebrewing supplies
:D

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by Dave Clark on Jan 29, 2011 5:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Awesome!

What’re you planning on brewing?

Karma police, arrest this man.

by wyte_lightning on Jan 29, 2011 6:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

First ever brew at home will be called "Cascadia Rising"

Based off a typical Northwest Pale Ale.

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by Dave Clark on Jan 29, 2011 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

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