Seatte Sounders at New England Revolution - Gamethread
by Dave Clark on Oct 1, 2011 3:00 PM PDT
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PrintIn MLS the Seattle Sounders have yet to have a game in league play that didn't matter. Only the tail end of last year's CCL is at all similar. During that run the Sounders were able to get valuable playing time for Mike Fucito, Tyson Wahl, Alvaro Fernandez, and Zach Scott - players who weren't keys to the 2010 season, but have become so for MLS 2011. Tonight Sigi Schmid can use this game in ways similar to the Reserve League. He can test some new ideas, some new pairings and look at 2012 a little bit. The result is not vital.
Similarly, the New England Revolution aren't playing for this season. They will be fielding a very different lineup from the last meeting, one that will include their first HGP signing - Diego Fagundez. They are also trying to fine tune the integration of their first DP signing (Milton Caraglio) and American Benny Feilhaber. When neither team is desparate for results the play can become a display of one-on-one skills or down right chippy. That will influence the tactics as much as anything.
Sigi's men must stay healthy. They are trophies to be won, so expect that if core players start they won't finish the game. Secondly, the players that get a run tonight that are on the border (cut/stay or 1st/2nd team) must play the current version of Sounders soccer. They should attack the ball on defense and rapidly transition to offense through many ground level passes. Those who don't get much run with the regulars must show that they can adapt to being in and out of lineups, because even the best get that treatment in Seattle. Lastly, on defense this is not a Shalrie Joseph and 10 other guys team anymore. Do not take the Revs for granted. Even a single point here advances the cause of advancement in the MLS Cup Playoffs.
The game is on KONG 6/16/106 and 97.3FM with Arlo White on the call at 4:30 PM
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Tactical Keys
- Rapid Transitions Through All Layers
- Learn New Pairings And Patterns
- Don't Overfocus On Shalrie Joseph
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Player Matchups
- Zach Scott v Milton Caraglio
- Nate Jaqua and/or Sammy Ochoa v A.J. Soares
- Servando Carrasco v Benny Feilhaber
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Webcast?
Seems like I’m always asking, but studying for a Histology exam is slightly more important than going to a bar so I can watch us battle the Revs.
Anyone know of any live webcast that will be showing the game?
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first row sports usually has something
Can’t remember the URL as I’m not home but you should be able to Google it
by chrisperry1983 on Oct 1, 2011 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
this is true
they can be eliminated today
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rain cluds moving in
We have about 30 at the tailgate party and i saw a good amount of other sounders fans. If they eventually make there way to our section we could have 40+.
by python6114 on Oct 1, 2011 3:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
yep
Rain isnt falling though so thats cool. There’s a good amount of sounders fans, probably 70 in our section.
by python6114 on Oct 1, 2011 5:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Fredy says his pink boots are ready
Take that as you will, but he will obviously be suiting up.
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Revs lineup
Reis; Alston, Cochrane, Soares, Tierney; Guy, Joseph, Feilhaber, Zerka; Caraglio, Fagundez
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Why move Alston from RB?
It just looks like they’ve messed up the formation. Joseph looks like he’s occupying the CDM space. Alston at RB. Guy at right mid. Fergundez up top.
sounders lineup
: Keller; Levesque, Scott, Ianni, Wahl; Estrada, Carrasco, Friberg, Fernandez; Montero, Jaqua
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will be interesting to see levesque at RB or if he and Estrada switch off
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
I wish we would have seen Ford out there for once
if there really was any game for him to get some MLS game-experience, this was it. I hope Montero and Fernandez get subbed out early in the 2nd.
sounder bench
Ford, Hurtado, Parke, Neagle, Fucito, Alonso, Ochoa
I’m betting that Ochoa i the only “planned” ub.
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captain
I’ve picked up watching soccer and the Sounders around the last world cup. And since then I have yet to figure out what the captain’s official and unofficial role is. Can someone explain it to me?
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by NaCl on Oct 1, 2011 4:07 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions
pretty much the same on any sports team...
confers with the officials if an event on the field calls for it, otherwise usually a mark of respect of leadership qualities since players usually pick captains…
by deflater mouse on Oct 1, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Veterancy/ Honorary title
The captain is also supposed to be the only player who can talk to the Refs about a certain call he made, I’m sure there is more that goes to it but that’s about the jist of it that I gathered from my teenage years playing soccer.
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by Tenacious Tom on Oct 1, 2011 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Turnout of 6 so far at Terrible Beauty
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according to Opta
Revs are the worst passing team in league at 72%
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the Revs announcers tell me...
that if the Revs pressure they are going to “put it all over the Sounders” – chuckle chuckle
and as they were testing the microphones
the revs announcer said “this is jay testing the microphone”, and then in a sultry voice “this is jay trying to make it sexy”
Their level of confidence seems a excessive for an announcer when you're playing a team playing much better than yours
But I’ll give it to them as long as they use their sexy voice.
Eee gad
Roger not the smartest decision there
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Try listening to the keeper?
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yeah
other way around would make more sense.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions
because Levesque tends to be ineffectual at offense...
and Estrada is even more raw at rb?
more raw
neither have played there in a competitive game.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
nevertheless...
the practice experience is half a season of difference.
I'm sorry, what are you basing that on?
As far as I know, Levesque has only practiced occasionally at FB.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Levesque at rb started out in preseason
we didn’t start hearing about Estrada getting time there until we were well into the season. Most of Estrada’s preseason work was at WF.
and as far as i know
that was also the last time Levesque practiced there.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
not being able to attend practices...
I can only go off what the team reports, and i’m pretty sure Roger got a brief reserve league look in-season as well.
If Estrada's future is at RB
I need to see him there in games like this
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Yep.
And I have a hard time believing Levesque is really any better.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 1, 2011 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Kraft ownership is very nice
So nice of the Revs ownership to at least make an attempt to make the field look like a soccer pitch. You can only see shadows of the gridiron today. I’m not sure if they’re worried about the quality of the “product” or if the league shamed them into doing something about it.
Nope
On the road in Oakland. They may do like the Seahawks/Sounders and alternate home games during the MLS/NFL overlap.
by Derek Markgraf on Oct 1, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I love that Alston is sporting a pink cast.
Good on him for supporting breast cancer awareness. I wonder if they changed it for this game.
Even for a mostly reserve team
We are holding serve on offense. Mostly shaky on the defensive side of the ball.
Webcast anyone?
First row sports had is listed but then the feed never started and it’s since been pulled off the page…
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No clock or score graphics, but it's the only working feed I've found
by Philip Mueller on Oct 1, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Bookmark this page, they show nearly every sounders game.
If it’s not on there they also have a second stream sometimes, at http://btrsports.net/2
by Philip Mueller on Oct 1, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i'm amazed more players don't do that
the bouncing free kick seems to always give GKs trouble
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions
No way that was offside
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nevermind
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 4:57 PM PDT up reply actions
8 of 10 tvs here are on Sounders game
1 on Huskies
other broken
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Boy Fergundez is tiny
Only 125 pounds. He’s going to need to bulk up to handle those MLS center-backs.
Really like David Estrada so far
If we’re looking for silver linings.
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levesque is a disaster
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I think the reason I feel distressed by Carrasco
is that he’s been making back-passes to this back four.
So far
This game as boring 0-0 draw written all over it. If somenoe sneaks in a goal, things will get a lot more exciting/frantic.
i will take a 0-0 tie and run
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Meh
Definitely better than a loss, but a win keeps in the the SS conversation for another week. LA has yet to play and RSL seems to have their number in recent years.
by K61 on Oct 1, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm not sure that conversation is so good
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions
of course he does, that's his job
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
One game suspension
For accumulating 5 yellows over the season
by K61 on Oct 1, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm behind by 4 minutes
Ahh, I see he just got a yellow. If he gets a second yellow, as far as I recall, it just counts as a red and he is suspended for one match. He would still be at 4 yellows in accumulation. I seem to remember Ljungberg sitting on 4 yellows when he got a yellow for diving followed immediately by a yellow for arguing. That’s how I think it played out for him.
by K61 on Oct 1, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
well, that was lame
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What's happening with Jaqua these days
Lack of playing time? He just hasn’t looked sharp when he’s been playing
jaqua the big doof
missed a sure goal, now we are losing
by Kevin Higginbottom on Oct 1, 2011 5:13 PM PDT reply actions
Oh Fredy, luv ya
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Who likes to dance?
Fredy Montero likes to dance
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by Dave Clark on Oct 1, 2011 5:14 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Montero has had almost 10 years more dancing experience
And to think, Montero is still pretty young.
Fantastic touch
That was sure a pretty goal crossing the ball just outside of the reach of Reis to the opposite post like that. By the way, Montero sure was lazy (sarcasm intended) in how he hustled to get to the ball.
We get scored on, on a header, by some waif-like 16 year old.
Meanwhile, our 6-4" pseudo “target forward” sinks to new lows
Thank god for Montero
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At least we have one real forward
Montero is on a tear!
by Kevin Higginbottom on Oct 1, 2011 5:14 PM PDT reply actions
So, who thinks we should protect JaCqua this off-season?
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I do!
Who thinks the sky is blue? Anyone want a poke in the eye? Care if I kick you in the junk?
by brokejumper on Oct 1, 2011 5:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Great strategy
pad the come from behind victory stats
by sdcoug09 on Oct 1, 2011 5:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
As much as I love Arlo...
there needs to be someone else on the radio side. It’s difficult to tell what is going on sometimes.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 1, 2011 5:16 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, we've actually talked to him about that...
He goes back and forth between being great on the radio and forgetting he’s simulcasting.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I just noticed he has improved his play-by-play since that comment
I swear they have someone monitoring our game threads. ;)
don't know about gamethreadsd
but they definitely read the site. Arlo included.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 5:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Because Arlo is awesome of course
You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.
There was another time I swear someone was monitoring the game thread
Arlo had mispronounced a player’s name. Someone mentioned it in the game thread and I swear Arlo went out of his way to pronounce it correctly three times in a row. ;)
Ugh
Can’t get logged in in FF for love nor money, had too resort to MSIE…
I must have muttered or screamed
oh sh*t a dozen times this half in response to bad defensive plays
I really hope that
Hurtado or Parke comes in at half for Levesque and slide Scott out wide. He had a horror show out there first half.
Experimenting can be a good thing.
Glad this one hasn’t hurt us more than it has. Hope it doesn’t hurt worse before it’s over.
Im all for experimenting
This clearly has been a failure and no reason to continue this experiment
by Colin Johnson on Oct 1, 2011 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Both Levesque and Ianni have been awful
by Kevin Higginbottom on Oct 1, 2011 5:26 PM PDT reply actions
Please, please
Jaqua for Ochoa and Carrasco for Alonso/Neagle at half…. I know that’s too much to ask for but I can still hope….
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I don't want to hear
Any more complaints about our defence.
AJ
Will be good in a couple years. No doubt in my mind.
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by Little old me on Oct 1, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Interesting trivia
AJ and Carasco are good friends from their high school days. Both will probably be in MLS for quite a while.
Any chance
AJ also has a girlfriend on the USWNT?
by K61 on Oct 1, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Tarps in Gillette
Anyone else notice the very weird tarp situation they have going on there? The entire end zone is tarped over behind Reese expect for the center section directly behind the goal. Is that their supporters section?
It's so security knows who to toss out
For using bad, bad language.
by Dizzo on Oct 1, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ZING!
Haven’t heard if things have gotten any better back there for their supporters and fans, but talk about an unpleasant organization and ownership group to deal with. They must take the prize.
The guys in period costume
Suddenly grabbing their heads at Carraglio’s chance may be the best moment of the game so far.
I thought so too
His entire body was inside the goal for sure. Maybe he reached and kept the ball out.
by K61 on Oct 1, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
so does neagle
Fredy’s first hat trick, not the sounders first hat trick
by Colin Johnson on Oct 1, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Fredy's second goal
On the repaly they just showed, Fredy was offside before the second goal. He did the right thing and just stood still, knowing that he was offside, then when other players had touched it, he quickly moved and got the shot off on the loose ball. Very well done. Smart.
Hallelujah!
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by Little old me on Oct 1, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Church is starting to put me to sleep
Just like the real thing.
Do you think NE is bunkering in to play for the 2-1 loss maybe? Better than being blown out.
by K61 on Oct 1, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I missed the beginning of the game,
but Roger looks pretty good in his new position from what I’ve seen. Jacqua with some good touches, Freddy leaves happy, a good day so far.
New England looks bad… real bad
He looked really sketchy
Early on, but he has settled in. That may be becuse not much is coming down the right, though.
The other defenders covered for him
by looking weaker to draw attacks away from Roger
I really think I would rather have Roger in there
than Ianni. Ianni seems to make a few bad decisions every game
NYRBs down 1-0 to Toronto
Looks like they’re going to miss the playoffs. They really need 3 points this weekend.
NYRB down on a Marquez giveaway and Ream blown off-sides trap
The implosion continues
They need to exile Marquez
He’s slowly killing that team. Backe will end up holding the bag if they miss the playoffs.
Yeah, I was a little surprised myself
I was think Ochoa for Jaqua but we don’t really need a striker sub at the moment.
by Son of Mecha Mummy on Oct 1, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
playing 15 mins is less work than a day of training
you being serious?
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Half serious
I just don’t want him tired or injured. We need him at his best on Tuesday.
by K61 on Oct 1, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
especially in this game.
It is like slo motion
Welcome the Honey Badger!
nice move by Sigi
by Kevin Higginbottom on Oct 1, 2011 6:13 PM PDT reply actions
If he doesn't make that....
you gotta think he will never score again…
jaquamauri
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by AKSupporter on Oct 1, 2011 6:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The face of post relegation Juve
Now nate needs to grow out his hair and a mustache
by Colin Johnson on Oct 1, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank god he's the face of nobody anymore.
Completely frozen out, not even allowed to play with the youth team.
La Vecchia Signora Forever!
I just wish that they signed Dzeko last winter
They’d be killing everyone in Serie A, even more than they are now. Pretty excited for Milan tomorrow.
by Colin Johnson on Oct 1, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, it was Dzeko or Krasic, and man city wanted Dzeko, and money talks.
So excited for tomorrow. If you speak english, and support juve, you simply must be active at the juve offside:
http://juventus.theoffside.com/team-news/round-5-6-fra-diavolo.html#comments
Hows that for some fan art too, eh?
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Yeah cant complain about Krasic
haven’t been active on Juve boards as sounders stuff keeps me pretty busy but I’ll check it out. Pretty sweet pic too.
by Colin Johnson on Oct 1, 2011 10:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Are you TRYING to jinx this?
Section 120, Row G, Seat 13
by _zorbthegeek on Oct 1, 2011 6:26 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
nate is a complete mess
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the big doof chokes again!
Jaquas days are numbered….
by Kevin Higginbottom on Oct 1, 2011 6:21 PM PDT reply actions
I really, really don't want an injury
Every time we have the ball and a NE player comes near us, they kick us, not the ball. The ref is just letting them do it too. I’m having flashbacks of DC and Mauro.
by K61 on Oct 1, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
horrilbe defending by Roger
Tierney bails him out though
OK, now I'm rooting for LA to lose
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So now you think Sigi isn't crazy?
Or “doing his job.”
RSL has good history against LA. If they win, LA may very well be catchable.
by K61 on Oct 1, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions
he's still doing his job
I never said he was crazy. Said I’m not sure going for the Shield should be top priority
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Call me a dreamer
but I’m not giving up on SS yet
Is rooting for LA to lose a new thing...
I’ve been doing it for years.
by central_scrutinizer on Oct 1, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Hawks Nest
That’s like the fifth time Arlo has mentioned “the Hawks Nest is open” for the USOC final. Very excited for Tuesday.
So we beat MLS teams on the road with a makeshift
backline Jaqua going 90 minutes. This season is too awesome.
If I never see Jaqua on the field again
it will be too soon…
by Kevin Higginbottom on Oct 1, 2011 6:31 PM PDT reply actions
Great strategy
pad the come from behind victory stats
Copied from above by sdcoug09. I liked it so much I had to repost it. Another come-from-behind victory tonight.
niiiiiice
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 1, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
If true, this would not be a surprise
After all, we are talking about the same totally screwed up New England Revolutions organization that basically declared war on their own most passionate season ticket holders.
They aren't anti fan
They are just pro empty seats
by blakec on Oct 1, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions 6 recs
its true
They had us by two groups of kids. It must have been youth soccer appreciation night. Which i swear is every teams way to fill more seats. The told us not to swear, we did our best to accomodate them, but we didnt completely cut it out. I dont take issue with not being able to swear, we have plenty songs and chants without swearing, its way more important to be loud then vulgar. However we behaved very well.
by python6114 on Oct 1, 2011 11:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
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