United States v Ecuador Friendly - Gamethread

by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 3:45 PM PDT in US National Team, World Cup and Other International Soccer

MIAMI GARDENS, FL - OCTOBER 08: Coach Jurgen Klinsmann of the USA smiles against Honduras at Sun Life Stadium on October 8, 2011 in Miami Gardens, Florida. (Photo by Marc Serota/Getty Images)

The Jurgen Klinsmann Era is still fresh and new. He's earned his first win, but the soccer fans in the United States want to see more than a win against a CONCACAF middle team and a draw against the best from our region. Tuesday night's game against Ecuador provides a fairly strong test (21st by SPI). Yet, the results still don't matter. Who plays is starting to matter because supposed undiscovered talents of the Bradley Era aren't getting discovered.

Most are focusing on the style of the team and Klinsmann's declared desire to change it from counter-attacking direct play to a more latin possession based team. Ideally some of the players that aren't fitting at this point get cycled out while new blood is brought in. He's had a few months and seeing the same players not do what he wants should be enough.

ESPN2 has the game at 4 PM Pacific time.

		Altidore
Shea		Dempsey		Williams
	Beckerman		Edu
Chandler				Cherundolo
	Onyewu		Bocanerga
		Howard

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At least I hope that plays like a 4-2-3-1

No need to see Edu in too much of an attacking role.

Still not a huge difference between this lineup/formation and a Bradley one

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 3:53 PM PDT reply actions

The huge attendance is definately a reason to keep going back to New York

/snark

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:12 PM PDT reply actions

ESPN teasing their college football coverage during a soccer game

why not tease your next MLS game?

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:14 PM PDT reply actions

Brek Shea's hair looks so much better in the rain

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:15 PM PDT reply actions

who are in the potential pool for the back line?

this is the area we need to improve upon first to compete internationally.

by PandG on Oct 11, 2011 4:15 PM PDT reply actions

Two basically untestd guys I'd like to see are

George John
Omar Gonzalez

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions

yep the galaxy are solid and he anchors them

would like to see george come back home.

i like ecuador’s style of play. they were a favorite in the ’06 WC

by PandG on Oct 11, 2011 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions

can you pass it to yourself and be offside?

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:19 PM PDT reply actions

Danny Williams with a great move

and strong decision to pass.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:20 PM PDT reply actions

US is shooting from outside frequently

Shea and Chandler both so far.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:22 PM PDT reply actions

Confidence and Betterness aren't the same thing

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:23 PM PDT reply actions

Loves Griffey?

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Holy crap that air horn is annoying

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 4:31 PM PDT reply actions

No American touched HIM

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:31 PM PDT reply actions

Brek Shea was just too slow

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:33 PM PDT reply actions

Ecuador would have a hope?

Really. Actually they are a damn good team.

Not Argentina, Uruguay, Chile

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:36 PM PDT reply actions

I'm tired of watching a team weak on the counter

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:39 PM PDT reply actions

That was the only thing we were good at!

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 11, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions

sorry

defending the counter

common threads

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions

This has been ugly so far

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 4:41 PM PDT reply actions

kind of "chunky" if that makes sense

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions

I really want to punch the guy with the horn.

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 4:43 PM PDT reply actions

Red Bull Arena's grass takes Williams down

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:45 PM PDT reply actions

100% Kentucky Bluegrass

Clear American bias.

by gee dub on Oct 11, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions

It looks like crap

the surface is clearly uneven, looks like a WWI/II battlefield.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree. Doesn't look up to what I'd hope for in Int. play.

At least there aren’t actual lines of barbed wired running across it.

by gee dub on Oct 11, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions

there may wind up with trenches in front of a goal though

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Score? I can't watch on my phone.

by Zakuani11Fan on Oct 11, 2011 4:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

zeroes

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions

0-0

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Anyone else's ESPN3 feed seem fuzzier than normal?

I have full bars on video quality.

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 4:47 PM PDT reply actions

Montero.

The answer for the future Seattle striking pair is on display tonight.

Ecuadorian Real Bettis man Jefferson Montero would do very nice along side fellow Montero and South American Freddy. 2013 after Fucito has career year next year and we cant afford to keep him?

by RalfZakuani on Oct 11, 2011 4:48 PM PDT reply actions

Too bad he already plays for a better team than us

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

dreams

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions

What?

Fucito’s going to start pulling down 250k/week from City

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 4:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Little series of pressure now

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 4:56 PM PDT reply actions

I just got home and tuned in

My first thought is those Ecudorian uniforms are pretty horrid.

by Dizzo on Oct 11, 2011 4:59 PM PDT reply actions

Edu....

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions

He thought he was playing baseball

1/3 success is good

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions

He's looked like the weakest link to me tonight.

by Kenneth Jung on Oct 11, 2011 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Chandler's crosses are looking much better from the left.

by hindsight on Oct 11, 2011 5:00 PM PDT reply actions

Bold prediction that head coach would want a win there.

by gee dub on Oct 11, 2011 5:07 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Earlier they were talking about how the U.S. wants to score early

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd make a half time switch

Edu off
Bradley on

No real loss in defense, much better offense

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 5:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Definitely agree with this for tonight.

Although I’m kind of surprised to see Beckerman starting over Mikey, frankly.

by Kenneth Jung on Oct 11, 2011 5:14 PM PDT up reply actions

I prefer Beckerman over Edu

and not just because Edu some times plays in a two team league.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions

This has probably been answered before,

but why is Dempsey wearing Donovan’s 10?

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 5:10 PM PDT reply actions

Under Jurgen players don't have numbers

positions have numbers.

Starting XI get 1-11 based on where they are playing. No names on back.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Ok, I knew I must've missed something

Haven’t been following the national team as much as I would’ve liked.
Thanks.

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions

oh, i forgot to say

I HATE IT

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

That's deep man...

by Zakuani11Fan on Oct 11, 2011 5:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

is this temporary, or the way he has always done it?

by Aasenb on Oct 11, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions

That's the way he's doing it now

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions

ESPN advertises for MLS game of the week

fails to mention, not actually every week.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 5:16 PM PDT reply actions

Klinsy chatting with Agudelo before the second half

Coming in for … Altidore? Williams?

by Kenneth Jung on Oct 11, 2011 5:18 PM PDT reply actions

Halftime Subs

Bradley and runDMB on

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 5:19 PM PDT reply actions

And Spector

And Agudelo

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions

So...moving Henry to left mid to make room for Agudelo up top at NYRB

Dumb comment? Or dumbest comment so far?

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by Dizzo on Oct 11, 2011 5:24 PM PDT reply actions

well, not terribly stupid

IF he adds the caveat that he wants Rodgers to stay at top

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by Dave Clark on Oct 11, 2011 5:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Nice flick on by Spector there.

Montero should really do more with that sort of service.

by gee dub on Oct 11, 2011 5:27 PM PDT reply actions

Birmingham City turns everything it touches to shit

by Aaron Campeau on Oct 11, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions

According to Wikipedia

Birmingham was the home town of Sir Francis Galton – originator of eugenics. So, um, that probably has bearing somehow.

by gee dub on Oct 11, 2011 5:34 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

Mexico vs brazil

this will be a amazing game chicharito vs neymar

by alexyepz on Oct 11, 2011 5:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions

Is Shea still on the pitch?

by Kenneth Jung on Oct 11, 2011 5:35 PM PDT reply actions

Taken off for DMB

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Which is a shame, because I was looking forward to watching him play more

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions

"really made decisive decisions"

thanks.

by Kenneth Jung on Oct 11, 2011 5:36 PM PDT reply actions

"Suarez a good young replacement for Valencia"

Yea, he’s one year younger.

by UW2010 on Oct 11, 2011 5:39 PM PDT reply actions

Take this however you want to take it but

The Sounders I do believe would beat the Mens National Team tonight 2-0.

by RalfZakuani on Oct 11, 2011 5:42 PM PDT reply actions

With Pat Noonan up front It'd be a hat trick

by gee dub on Oct 11, 2011 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions

Jurgen has mentioned his respect for Noonan during his time with LA Galaxy and more recently Toronto as a consulting, scoping MLS talent.

Little known story: Joachim Low, German coach and protoge/secret-to-success-behind Jurgen with National 11, once scouted Pat Noonan at a US Open cup match when Noonan was with 4th league Oklahoma City reds. Ever since then there were rumors of Noonan to a Regional Liga squad in Klinsman’s native Baden Wurtemberg. Tubingen actually tendered and offer at one point that failed at MLS waiver stages for technical reasons.

by RalfZakuani on Oct 11, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs