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Seattle Sounders v CF Monterrey Rayados - Gamethread

Playing for pride isn't a common thing for the Seattle Sounders, at least not because they have been so damn good that the result bears little meaning. Lose and nothing really changes. With a draw the Sounders win the group. With a win they may just knock out the reigning champs. This game has a chance to get a little negative, because Monterrey's scenario is really simple, if they get a point they advance. If they win they win the group. With their recent form in league play they don't need to push themselves tonight.

Except for pride.

The Rayados may just want a bit of revenge from that loss to a reserve laden American side back in August. There may just be a little drive for them to show that they are champions in the region and push back at this "MLS is gaining ground" story. From Seattle's end there are players that will be tested tonight who can work their way into more 18s, more starting XIs. Sammy Ochoa can show that he is fit and ready, forcing a little three headed monster at the forward positions. It is a game that could wind up negative, except that for pride. Expect some goals, these are two proud teams.

The game is on FoxSoccer (national), CONCACAFtv.com and 97.3FM with Arlo White on the call at 7:00 PM

Pre Match Build-up: Three Questions

Star-divide

Tactical Keys

  • Hold possession in attack to diminish counter
  • Pass backwards with authority
  • Give Montero magical spaces
  • Defend as a unit

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Kit: One Nation Under Sigi
Where I'm Watching: Home

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You Will Hear Us In Your Sleep | You Will Hear Us From The Deep

Since many will be watching on Fox Soccer the thread is up early for the FC Dallas v Toronto FC battle.

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So watching the CONCACAF feed has informed me that the NBA must be in charge of stadium atmosphere

and the Chicago Bulls seem ready to enter the stadium.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 5:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Winner advances

it is the most complex of the groups, but that’s the simple way.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 5:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

According to my dish guide, I get this one on espn+ down here.

They could show it in HD, but instead they’re using both ESPN HD channels to continuously loop random shows about the rugby world cup. Oh well. At least I get to see it without hoping on a stream.

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by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 5:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Toronto just had a through ball that went through three layers

brilliant play that wound up with a cross that Koevermans couldn’t finish.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 5:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Good job Plata passed that time

Because he f’ed it up royally a couple of minutes ago.

by Targaff on Oct 18, 2011 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, at least he crossed it that time.

It would be hard to say that TFC didn’t deserve to score on one of those.

by gee dub on Oct 18, 2011 5:36 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Toronto 1 : Dallas 0

Plata abusing the defense the whole game and one of his crosses gets converted on a second strike by Koevermannsnsnsnsn

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 5:39 PM PDT reply actions  

Daniel Hernandez is better at hurting people

than taking set-peices.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

This is something we have in common.

Although it appears he’s much, much better at both than me.

by gee dub on Oct 18, 2011 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

CCL is my fave

Room at the bar, cheap tickets (sit anywhere), great competition on the pitch, and this year, something @ stake (however amorphous) in the outcome. Really hoping Sigi has Ochoa in the XI tonight

by wmknickers on Oct 18, 2011 5:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I generally don't care about soccer/football name semantics.

But when the announcer said “SMU is where he played his college football,” I was genuinely confused for a second.

by gee dub on Oct 18, 2011 5:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Hernandez just used his elbow on Plata

plata called for foul.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 5:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Making live replay decisions has to be hard.

But really, the underpowered dribbler instead of the fancy footwork and blocked shot that went off a few seconds before?

by gee dub on Oct 18, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Halftime | Toronto 1 : 0 Dallas

Koevermannsnansanansansnads (Plata)

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 5:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Toronto has looked solid in the midfield

Winning almost all of the duels. They’ve really disrupted Dallas’s rhythm. And Dallas has looked pretty bad all game.

by Zakuani11Fan on Oct 18, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Might not get too

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

its got to be...

More important to have him healthy for the MLS Cup than play tonight, right?

by HawkSoop737 on Oct 18, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought he'd get minutes just for the sake of getting his touch and fitness back up a little for the playoffs.

I suppose they might be extra, extra cautious. I’d still be a little surprised if he didn’t at least make an appearance off the bench.

by moyerLIVES on Oct 18, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

He played in nearly zero CCL games

iirc only starting one.

He may be a sub tonight and starter Saturday.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

2nd Half for TFC v FCD started at 6:11 Pacific time

Toronto up one to nil

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:13 PM PDT reply actions  

This feels really odd to say

Toronto is just the better team

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:19 PM PDT reply actions  

I'd like them to get another goal or two

and finish Dallas off

So I can watch pre-game of Seattle.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you imagine a quarterfinal matchup against them?

There than here?

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

that would have to be the best draw

both teams in preseason. Im curious to see how much we promote our home game. I think we could easily pull 45k for the quarterfinal with a whole offseason to promote it.

by Colin Johnson on Oct 18, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm just glad they aren't tied

So that at least one of them is guaranteed to advance. If they tie there’s a chance neither advances.

by Thalas on Oct 18, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Seattle Lineup

Meredith
Riley – Scott – Parke – Wahl
Estrada – Alonso – Friberg – Levesque
Ochoa – Montero

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:28 PM PDT reply actions  

bench

Keller, Noonan, Neagle, Fucito, Evans, Ianni, Fernandez

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

odd...

…that Leo doesn’t even make the bench. Sure he’s on accumulation, and over a long enough period he’s prone to drawing one, but with Hurtado out and and off/on defense I would think having him around would be warranted.

by nimajneb on Oct 18, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Jaqua either

I wonder what the story is on him, wasn’t even in the 18 on Saturday. He did have a goal and an assist in the reserves game a week ago and played 80+ minutes.

by Thalas on Oct 18, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even when he's not been awful recently...

…he’s been pretty poor at most aspects of his game, and the bench is a couple deep in forwards as it is.

by nimajneb on Oct 18, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Noonan's passing is better right now

They are both basically down to that.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think Jaqua has been setting up goals more than Noonan

And Jaqua’s better at creating space for his Forward partner. Neither have been finishing well, but I’ve seen many an attack break down completely because of Noonan’s poor play, passing included.

by Thalas on Oct 18, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think that's the last good pass Noonan had

His through ball to Flaco down in Monterrey, he’s been horrible since.

by Thalas on Oct 18, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's not really worth arguing much...

…about who should be the second forward off the bench in a sub to rest/preserve your key starters.

by nimajneb on Oct 18, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably be Neagle at this point too

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

very true...

…since Sigi told us specifically to expect him there a lil bit.

by nimajneb on Oct 18, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Except with finishing, passing and touch...

…and I say that as one of Noonan’s vocal detractors.

by nimajneb on Oct 18, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, Jaqua's still better at finishing

Noonan is grandly deficient there.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

not sure I agree...

I’ve seen Noonan strike a true ball at least approximately on frame recently, and I’ve having a hard time remember Jaqua’s last.

by nimajneb on Oct 18, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, Jaqua's scored 2 real goals

and 3 Reserve goals.

Noonan none

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

in about 70% more minutes

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah Jaqua has almost double minutes

But more than double assists and goals are some to none.

by Thalas on Oct 18, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm sticking by my Jaqua > Noonan

And still wondering why Jaqua hasn’t been in the 18 the last 2 competitive matches.

by Thalas on Oct 18, 2011 6:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

small numbers,

and minutes/role disparities.

by nimajneb on Oct 18, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Montero is Captain

I say again

Montero is Captain.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

What does this mean for the team?

Will all of the players be lazy?
Will he argue lazily with the ref? Will that make dissent cards more or less likely?

by gee dub on Oct 18, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like it all but levesque on the wing.

Must be a yellow driving that decision. Is Evans on a yellow?

by Zakuani11Fan on Oct 18, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

walking over now

Beverage TBD
Kit: Blue 09/10
Scarf: The Bluest Skies …
WHERE? GA!

by CMC_Stags on Oct 18, 2011 6:32 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

So we get them? Heh.

I don’t know that they won’t wake up, they still have the squad to cause problems, but boy do they look like pushovers right now.

by Thalas on Oct 18, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well, at 7

Forgot. weeknight. no pre-game

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm still surprised he was an un-drafted FA

Considering how dominant he was at the combine.

by moyerLIVES on Oct 18, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Picked 49th

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops! Point stands though, I think.

Just scored another. Not sure anyone within 10 picks of him is still in the league.

by moyerLIVES on Oct 18, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Micheal Boxall

He was the other steal of the supplemental draft. He gets the occasional start with the Whitecaps.

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by Dizzo on Oct 18, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

2nd Toronto goal

Plata with the goal and assist on first goal. TFC through to QF.

by Colin Johnson on Oct 18, 2011 6:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow.

Who saw TFC going into Frisco and winning 3-0?

by Kenneth Jung on Oct 18, 2011 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Not surprising at all.

They obviously have been conserving their energy throughout the entire MLS season so that they could win this game.

Sounders 'til I die

by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone using chrome here?

for me the display of the page is all messed up in Chrome. I’m on IE right now and it’s fine.

by majora999 on Oct 18, 2011 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm using chrome..

and it’s fine but the SB Nation blogs all act funky in chrome depending on the adds they are running

by HawkSoop737 on Oct 18, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah I really have no idea what causes or corrects it...

but sometimes opening and closing individual articles will reset it… mostly I’ve noticed it changes when the advertisements switch

by HawkSoop737 on Oct 18, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am

I have no problems at all, and can’t recall ever having a problem.

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by Seattle Coug on Oct 18, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't ask me why,

Out of all of the ECS chants this year, this one and “Who the f___ is Man United?” are the two that have lingered the most in my head.

(and obviously “Supa-Fred”, but that goes without saying….)

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by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

Distance to MLS Teams

Just cuz I was bored. I looked up the air miles between Seattle and the other MLS teams in the CCL thinking that closer would be more convenient.

Los Angeles = 954 miles
Colorado = 1060 miles
Dallas = 1660 miles
Toronto = 2050 miles

Although I think I’d rather draw TOR over LA…

by hormd on Oct 18, 2011 7:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Probably a result

Of lower meaning for the game since they’ve already advanced and just a general let down from the exuberance of Keller’s last regular season start

by HawkSoop737 on Oct 18, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Late arriving

the crowd has been late arriving. The east side of CenturyLink has filled in quite a bit.

I think they may have directed ticket sales to the east side seats to make in stadium appearance look better on tv.

by Kiliman2004 on Oct 18, 2011 7:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Good point by Arlo

Probably the last time we wear Electricty as this is the second year with it and that’s the life span of a kit.

by Thalas on Oct 18, 2011 7:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Slow webcast...

Anyone else having terrible lag watching the webcast from concacaf.com? I mean like 1 second of audio/video every 35 seconds realtime

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by Tenacious Tom on Oct 18, 2011 7:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Sigh.

This is going to be a long match.

by Son of Mecha Mummy on Oct 18, 2011 7:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Way to go Sounders

That might be the worst offside trap I’ve ever seen.

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 7:09 PM PDT reply actions  

It would also help if he didn't do his usual

wave arm and yell at ref instead of play defense maneuver. I hate that about Parke.

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately

That was a good call. Poor defense there

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by Dizzo on Oct 18, 2011 7:10 PM PDT reply actions  

and

here we go again. Another early goal again.

by gstommylee on Oct 18, 2011 7:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Worst of both worlds commentary...

I have REALLY loud concacaf website commentary with quiet Spanish over it.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 7:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm trying to listen

To arlo while watching Concacaf feed and he’s way behind… very frustrating

by HawkSoop737 on Oct 18, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good idea.

Internet feed being behind allows me to pause the dvr. Works fine now. Thanks.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

What

was that whistle for?

by gstommylee on Oct 18, 2011 7:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Hallucination by official.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

i try to like radio,

but even with arlo, it just doesn’t cut it.

by handofgod on Oct 18, 2011 7:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Meredith = very lucky.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 7:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Estrada looks much more built

he would have been blown off that ball last year

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Estrada continuing to show that he belongs.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 7:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Scott needed to do better with that header

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 7:27 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Scott could've done better with that.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 7:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Monterrey are really starting to pack it in the defensive third.

And play very conservatively. It might bite them later.

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by Dizzo on Oct 18, 2011 7:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Terrible backpass with an awkward bounce and a man running on.

I feel like 30 yard knee ball was a best case scenario there.

by Jackington on Oct 18, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

One plus of a smaller crowd.

I can hear all the ECS songs very clearly.

by AlexM on Oct 18, 2011 7:37 PM PDT reply actions  

The number of passing sequences ending with Friberg turnovers is distrubing

Almost every time he tries to slip it forward it is to a Monterrey player

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

He's lulling them into submission by creating Pavlovian conditioning to expect all of his touches to end up at their feet..

…this will all, of course, lead to 3 goals in the last 5 minutes of the game once he starts actually trying to complete passes to Sounders. He’s very dedicated to his craft.

by UW2010 on Oct 18, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meredith can now tell the grandkids he stopped Humberto Suazo

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 7:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice hand to the face.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 7:45 PM PDT reply actions  

just jointing you guys!!

sucks that we are losing! i just got in from a night out! and decided to watch my sounders :)

by Sandra_R on Oct 18, 2011 7:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Hmmm arm extended in box hits face, no call

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 7:45 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

YES!

YES!

YES!

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by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 7:47 PM PDT reply actions  

MAKE THEM PAY!!!!

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 7:48 PM PDT reply actions  

Lazy Fredy Montero

waiting to score until he had a set piece.

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by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 7:48 PM PDT reply actions  

I hate how lazy he is.

He’s so lazy that he lets the other team stand there while he scores goals. It’s infectious.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 7:48 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

The nice thing about having Arlo's call 30 seconds behind

I’m paying my full attention to the goal call. ;)

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by Dizzo on Oct 18, 2011 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

How do you manage to get his call behind?

It is always ahead of the TV broadcast for me by god minute.

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by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

good minute.

Sounders 'til I die

by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

*on

Auto-correct is killing me today

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by Dizzo on Oct 18, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

One thing I don't get about the Colombia call-up issue is...

that they call up guys regularly from the domestic league, and if Fredy went back, he’d be the best set piece guy in Colombia, IMHO (they score a lot of goals from crap defense there, not from set pieces).

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by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Meredith just looks absurdly young

after watching Keller for the past 3 years.

Sounders 'til I die

by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

We need to score another goal

To avenge RSL.

representing MLS

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by Dizzo on Oct 18, 2011 7:56 PM PDT reply actions  

1-1 HT

3’ Goal – Carreno (Off-side trap gone wrong)
42’ Goal – Montero (Beautiful* free kick)

*Understatement.

by Jackington on Oct 18, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Game on Univision HD

Just discovered it’s on here in Boston… presumably anywhere you can get it? Happily ditching FSC now.

by LordIceman on Oct 18, 2011 8:01 PM PDT reply actions  

All the same?

Are you suggesting all spanish speaking stations are the same to you?

by lysander on Oct 18, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, they are the same company

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did say company, not channel

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hi guys

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 18, 2011 8:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Get bored on Twitter?

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Big Time

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neat note from Joshua Mayers via Twitter

Montero has scored 10 goals in his last 10 games in all competitions. Six were game winners. #gettinghot

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by Dizzo on Oct 18, 2011 8:08 PM PDT reply actions  

He hasn't played in the CCL but twice

one start, one sub IIRC. I did a whole story about why he wouldn’t be missed.

He’ll get a longish run Saturday.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 8:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I get that we don't necessarily "need" him.

I wondered if 20 more game minutes would help his progress.

by bago'juice on Oct 18, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Even if Sigi wanted to get super cynical

and make subs to bunker for the tie, he really doesn’t have the personnel on the bench to do it.

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Ianni for Ochoa

Evans for Montero

Roger up top

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that would work

I guess I was thinking about how Scott, Leo and Carrasco are generally available. Plus I think of Roger and Evans as offensive players, which isn’t totally true.

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

i'm

gonna have to sub myself out of this one and its nothing to do with the game itself. Laptop is making it hard trying to be on here and watching the game.

by gstommylee on Oct 18, 2011 8:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I mean watching it on tv

the laptop is acting up and well i’m trying to find the reinstall disk

by gstommylee on Oct 18, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

We are routinely sending horrible back passes to Meredith.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Not diffferent really

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

So Concacaf should probably work on making the last matches of group play

happen simultaneously. Or at least the same day. Too much to ask?

by AlexM on Oct 18, 2011 8:14 PM PDT reply actions  

it would be ideal yes.

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

It would be hard to schedule

With all the fixture congestion. Not too mention the problems for teams in multiple-use stadiums like the C-Link.

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by Dizzo on Oct 18, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

18 all competition goals for fredy

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 18, 2011 8:16 PM PDT reply actions  

And 10 assists

You get to write about him

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Monterrey sure loves

knocking the ball around in their own half

by Philip Mueller on Oct 18, 2011 8:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice knot

on Ochoa’s temple. That can’t feel good.

by m_b on Oct 18, 2011 8:17 PM PDT reply actions  

He could go through a brick wall

And still feel good enough to yell “oh, yeah!”

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by Dizzo on Oct 18, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Monterrey Advance

Sorry if this has been answered, but does anyone know if Monterrey automatically qualifies with a draw?

by RalfZakuani on Oct 18, 2011 8:18 PM PDT reply actions  

yes

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

thanks

Thats great they appear to be content for a draw! We can play Toronto in the first round of the knockout.

by RalfZakuani on Oct 18, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It has already been determined who we would play?

What if we get second in our group, then who do we play?

by lysander on Oct 18, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a draw later

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

No

But if this ends in a draw we play someone who finishes 2nd in a group. Prolly Toronto, Colorado or Alajuense/Morelia/LAGalazy

by RalfZakuani on Oct 18, 2011 8:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

or not

Now we get to play a Mexican team!

by RalfZakuani on Oct 18, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Terrible foul.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 8:21 PM PDT reply actions  

I miss FSC commentary

I kinda wish they piped in FSC commentary to the press box just so I could bad mouth it.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 18, 2011 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

At least you don't have the CONCACAF guy getting the rules wrong

he keeps saying that Seattle hasn’t advanced

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow that was an awful shot.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 8:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Sadness.

terrible terrible back pass.

by gee dub on Oct 18, 2011 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow. Horrible defense.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 8:23 PM PDT reply actions  

How good could we be if we just understood that you aren't supposed to pass to the other team?

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

And another awful back pass giveaway

This has officially become an annoying trend.

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:24 PM PDT reply actions  

sigh

another stupid move by seattle resulting in another goal conceded

by gstommylee on Oct 18, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

You've seen it before

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not much pace on the cross

Roger made something out of nothing, just about.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 8:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Speaking of making something about nothing

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:26 PM PDT reply actions  

*out of nothing

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

That was amazing work from fredy

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 18, 2011 8:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Feed the monster, get Fredy the ball

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ianni on for Parke

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

This terrifies me

after Ianni’s miserable performance on Saturday.

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by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ianni for Parke

odd

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 8:29 PM PDT reply actions  

FSC might have it right

Parke has a card and recent concussion.

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

You took your own keeper out dude.

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Looks like keeper was fouled by his own defender to me.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 8:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah, this guy is a sniper magnet.

Might be hurt this time, but it was within 5 minutes when he started taking bullets last year.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

You are absolutely correct

I re-wound, he’s timewasting.

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

On the other hand he's being taken off, so he's actually hurt

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

It looked painful

but I’m going to be very upset when he pops up without injury.

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by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 8:33 PM PDT reply actions  

Sucks that he was actually hurt

here is to hoping that his backup sucks.

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by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 8:35 PM PDT reply actions  

Worst case scenario for Monterrey, broke collar bone.

While I hope we win this one, best wishes at a full recovery to their keeper.

by Rougtan on Oct 18, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Church is in session

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Thy will be done

on the pitch, as it is in heaven.

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by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Neagle on for Estrada

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Neagle on for Estrada

I’d rather for Friberg

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by Dave Clark on Oct 18, 2011 8:41 PM PDT reply actions  

I love how FSC has already moved into their post-game show

At least 10 minutes left guys!

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:47 PM PDT reply actions  

Can I get a score and time update?

Just came in and I’m watching the COCACAF feed.

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Oct 18, 2011 8:48 PM PDT reply actions  

2-1, 87th

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can we sub Flaco for Taco, or all we all out?

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 8:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Out, 3 used

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks.

You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.

by mistuhp on Oct 18, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

5 added minutes

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by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:53 PM PDT reply actions  

5 added minutes is a joke

Not that it likely would have made any difference, but the 4th official must have had a hot date waiting.

The injury to the goalie took at least four minutes, if not five. Add in multiple substitutions, stoppage for an “injury” or two, and the time wasting (and subsequent yellows). All of that should have added up to 7-8 minutes.

by jonnyreno on Oct 18, 2011 11:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh well

Guess we would have been drawn against a very good club regardless.

by lemonverbena on Oct 18, 2011 8:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Hard to fairly judge him

he’s been betrayed by his defenders more than once.

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by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe I'm too harsh

But I thought he misplayed the first goal badly and didn’t really help himself much all night. Hard to judge, though, because defense was not very helpful either.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 18, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I thought he misplayed the first goal badly too.

But in his defense, his options were “up shit creek” or “he’s screwed” and he picked the wrong one.

by Jackington on Oct 18, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Average at best IMO

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not much chance on either goal.

Has had to deal with some poor balls back. He’s been ok.

by moyerLIVES on Oct 18, 2011 8:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whats

with this crappy passing?

by gstommylee on Oct 18, 2011 8:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I

also what to know is why is Seattle not just shoot the ball instead of trying to make a cross.

by gstommylee on Oct 18, 2011 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The problem with cards etime wasting

is that they waste time.

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by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 8:56 PM PDT reply actions  

A disappointing night

but we’ve advanced to the quarters, which is a hell of a lot better than last year. I’ll take it.

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Probably more about inconsistency

win against Chicago
loss against Philadelphia
win against San Jose
loss against Monterrey

by Randy Meeker on Oct 18, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

And no injuries apparently

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

We have got to do something about these defensive miscues

or we’ll stand no chance in the playoffs.

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by SounderJunkie on Oct 18, 2011 8:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Im not so pessimistic

Hurtado, Parke, and Keller in the back middle with less world-class competition and we’ll be fine

by RalfZakuani on Oct 18, 2011 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

The gaffes have become a disturbing trend of late

but I’m hoping it’s been a result of the line-up churn from injuries and card suspensions.

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on Oct 18, 2011 9:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

You know

i was kinda expecting seattle would learn from last year that that would be more careful with their passing and not make stupid turn overs.

But i was wrong.

by gstommylee on Oct 18, 2011 9:01 PM PDT reply actions  

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