Seattle Sounders at Chivas USA - Gamethread
Facing a team that fell well short of their goals for the season the Seattle Sounders have the opportunity to have essentially an intense scrimmage to prepare themselves for the coming MLS Cup Playoffs. It isn't that Chivas USA has been bad per se, just not mediocre enough to sneak in the playoffs. Their goal differential on the year is an even zero and plus four at home. Their relatively solid defense grants the Sounders an opportunity to finalize playing time decisions for the upcoming Western Conference Semi-Finals.
The Seattle defense though does have specific issues to work on in this game. Mistaken passes in the backline, attempts at offside traps and set-play lapses that have occurred recently must be stopped prior to the Playoffs. The Goats are good at crossing the ball and scoring (11 goals, +6 GD) which should help refine those points of need. They aren't a good set-piece team (9 goals for, +1 GD) but real practice is already better.
In the end this game is good for three things - permanent records of greatness, refining the few weak areas the Sounders have and staying healthy and fit. There's no lineup card, because so many different angles could occur for both teams. The projections would be less than guesses. There are small battles at two starting roles. Mike Fucito and Sammy Ochoa can use this match to show who gets the 60+ minutes starting (though that may still be a tactical choice), while Leo Gonzalez' and Tyson Wahl's 50/50 battle for starts has to be settled prior to the short Playoff run. At the end of the evening Seattle will know it's first round opponent. Real Salt Lake v the Portland Timbers and FC Dallas at the San Jose Earthquakes will determine when and where Seattle plays next weekend.
The game is on KONG 6/16 and 97.3FM with Arlo White on the call at 7:30 PM
Pre Match Build-up: Three Questions
Tactical Keys
- Prevent Wide Service
- Never Lose a Marker
- Continue Montero's Scoring Streak
- Stay Healthy and Fit
Beverage: Brougham Bitter
Scarf: Nos Audietis
Kit: #ChurchOfFucito v1.0
Where I'm Watching: Mad Pizza
Nos Audietis In Somniis | Nos Audietis In Altum
You Will Hear Us In Your Sleep | You Will Hear Us From The Deep
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Lineups
Via Mayers: Sounders FC lineup: GK Keller, D Riley, D Parke, D Hurtado, D Gonzalez, M Alonso, M Evans, M Fernandez, M Rosales, F Montero, F Fucito. Bench: GK Bryan Meredith, D Zach Scott, D Tyson Wahl, D/M/F Roger Levesque, M Erik Friberg, M Lamar Neagle, F Sammy Ochoa.
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Wow, we're really going for a win here
Seems like since it’s an away game and there’s literally nothing we can do in the standings we would see a lineup more like the Revs game.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Need to keep our key players active.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions
absences
Some key absences from the bench. Raise a pint to no Noonan or Jaqua.
chivas lineup
Chivas USA XI: Kennedy; Valenitin, Pearce, Lopes, Jazic; Zemanski, Gaven, LaBrocca, Moreno, Mondaini; Angel.
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chivas bench
Chivas USA bench: Thornton, Boyens, Trujillo, Lahoud, Estupinan, Flores, Cortez.
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PDX just hasn't had it this year
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Kasey's wearing a faded green New York shirt
During his pregame show interview with Arlo, so odd, guessing the rest of the shirt says something like “sucks” or “isn’t as good as Seattle” or something similar.
Is anyone else having problems getting match day live to work?
The Seattle Sounders are just reDQulous
Mine is working fine except it is playing that damn song.
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firstrowsports.eu
Always.
They might not have the stream up yet because they don’t want to bother with pregame. Be patient.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions
first row sports
is not working. anyone have a stream?
-Ben R.
It's nice not to have to worry about syncing the radio and TV for once.
Can we stop Fox Soccer from buying so many of our games next year?
Sounders 'til I die
They'll just all be on NBC
Network TV loves us
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I have a feeling at least one of the four NBC games will wind up being NYRB-LAG
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I'll bet we get at least one of the two regular season games.
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Oh, right, only two regular-season...
In that case, I’m gonna bet we see NYRB@LAG and PDX@SEA as the two. At least, IMO, those are the ones that make the most sense.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That's fine, NBC broadcasts keep Arlo.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
National? We don't know that yet.
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True enough.
I’ll just have to keep my fingers crossed.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Here's a little story, I have to tell
First, I just watched an ECS effort to expand the game to females through coaching on HOW to play the GAME. One of the coaches here is a young lady with the Sounders women. The other was a certain Steve Zakuani. I’ll write more about this later.
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by Dave Clark on Oct 22, 2011 7:33 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
And now I'm watching the game with them
Also here are Real SoCal the Academy opponent tomorrow
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all the major players are on one stream tonight it seems and none are working
arlo isnt very descript on the radio
Looking
I’m searching for a stream as well, let me know if you find one.
Coug City Sounder
by Tenacious Tom on Oct 22, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
I really think we need to find a separate radio man
Arlo’s great on the telly, but not so much on the radiobox.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
He's great if it isn't simulcast
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If Mauro Rosales wins the ball from you on a tackle
you shouldn’t have tried to dribble around nearly anyone
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ECS women and Real SoCal trading barbs
RSC boos the offside call
ECSW respond with a “Who are ya”
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I hear ECS and SoCal Sounders fans clearly.
Love it. I don’t care if the mics are in favorable locations.
Go to hell Chivas
You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.
by 108Ultra on Oct 22, 2011 7:42 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Mauro's been down for a solid three minutes
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Rosales' right knee got taken out again
And they stretchered him off and it looks like they’re subbing him.
Hey skillful player, come to MLS and make $42,000
The other teams will continually hack you, and people won’t get sent off for it, even though it’s a bit much to believe it always happens to be a coincidence.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
Fucking assclowns
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by Tenacious Tom on Oct 22, 2011 7:45 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
IN CHIVAS' DEFENSE
That wasn’t a dirty tackle, it just got Mauro in an awkward position and Mauro probably wouldn’t have stayed down if it wasn’t for the previous injury.
I met a possum.
Flat-out extremely reckless, a situation where you'd never expect he'd NOT get injured.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
It is almost Halloween
maybe he is going as 2010 season Levesque
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He walked off the field under his own power last time
and was still out 3 weeks
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In other news,
Salt Lake is up 1-0 in the 73rd minute. If Portland doesn’t come back here, then we know our opponent for the playoffs.
Sounders 'til I die
Well a sliver of good news seeing Mauro move to the bench under own power
You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.
levesque didn't check back like he thought he was going to
Not really Rileys fault there
by Sounders4life on Oct 22, 2011 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
He passed it to the other team.
They aren’t running routes out there. If Roger doesn’t check back you don’t try to pass it to him anyways. His passing wasn’t great against Monterrey either.
still cant find a stream
anyone have one. nothing on the usual sites…
No luck at firstrowsports,
and I havent found one elsewhere yet
Coug City Sounder
by Tenacious Tom on Oct 22, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
You can at least pull up the kiro radio stream while you look.
Sounders 'til I die
by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we sign Rick Mahorn or Charles Oakley to a 3 week contract?
So that the next Mullan or Zemanski in the Play-offs gets flipped onto his effing head.
So sick of this shit.
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 7:53 PM PDT reply actions
So Chivas fouls our best player to knock him out of the game, then parks the bus.
Sad that this is what passes for tactics in MLS.
by k_dubious on Oct 22, 2011 7:56 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Levesque and Montero have switched
This is a dream of mine. Montero wide
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But...
but he’s so lazy
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I heard some fans at our last CCL game
seriously say that he was lazy, and not in a sarcastic way. They criticized his every movement. I wanted to turn around and yell at them.
Almost as bad
They also commented on how the woman a few seats over knew all the player’s names, and thought that she must be the biggest fan the Sounders have.
I figured I’d leave them be since they at least cared enough to go to a non league game.
I have done in the past
Very satisfying when he scored the winner.
it works with evans
he gets forward & fills the space montero evacuates when he gets wide
Turns out that the Timbers tied it in stoppage.
But Dallas has to do better than Real to advance. Salt lake has a lead in goal differential.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 8:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Dallas has to beat SJ to finish 3rd
You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.
RSL owns tiebreaker with Dallas
So still undecdied.
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This is the kind of stuff that keeps MLS interesting in the last few weeks
Where in EPL and such you could have already had the winner declared weeks ago.
by Derek R on Oct 22, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
The playoffs before the playoffs
Has been a really fun ride watching the dust settle with our position wrapped up unlike the last couple years biting our nails.
In Europe it would still be interesting
as they would potentially be competing for a Champion’s League spot in the battle for 3rd and 4th.
-Ben R.
Don't top 4 go to CL?
And next three to Europa?
RSL and Dallas results would not matter
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But the compelling drama of figuring out who the worst teams are!
You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.
by 108Ultra on Oct 22, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And the extra drama that comes when one of the bottom teams
Plays the #1 team who already locked up first place and is going to play reserves/bench for their last few games.
Actually now that I think about it, there was similar drama with LA.
Depends on the UEFA coefficient of the league they're in
The top 3 leagues send 4 to UEFACL and 3 to Europa, that’s England, Spain, and Germany in that order, next 3 leagues send 3 and 3, that’s Italy, Portugal and France in that order.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uefa_coefficient
Well, San Jose won't be a pushover
With Wondo chasing the golden boot
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions
JPA trying to prolong his career by becoming Kenny Cooper
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Rather play Dallas, although RSL has been bad lately.
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 8:02 PM PDT reply actions
I have a friend flying up from Salt Lake to go to the playoff game with me.
He’ll be disappointed if it’s against Dallas. :P
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Montero has been making some great runs
Hopefully one will lead to a goal here.
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According to Arlo Dallas is purposefully tanking it to avoid Sounders?
Only traveled a few starters?
thats absolutely stupid
playing an extra game vs MLS playoff opponents is NEVER the value play, even if you have to go up against galaxy first
Hopefully
This pathetic display by Dallas will lead garber to reseat playoffs irrespective of conferences.
Not with the unbalanced schedule
That’s why the current system will be better when we have a 34-game schedule and miss some Eastern Conference games.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
This gem from Hyndman
"The game against San Jose will be our 47th game this year," Hyndman pointed out. "Last year, we played a total of 34 games, and that was with the MLS Cup final. So it’s been a really taxing season."
That’s what I call loser-talk bro.
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by 108Ultra on Oct 22, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
What's great about that
He will need to play extra games because he didn’t go for the win
Yeah good job dudes.
Best idea is to play an extra game with travel to the east coast because it’s not like your team fell apart because they were run into the ground or anything.
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I think they got it way wrong
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its like the nfl colts
During the mid 2000s when they always rested starters the last few games of year and went super rusty into the playoffs.
but actually much worse because how could you possible decide the better route is through an extra game
Good news?
plenty of corner defense practice
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Sigi says Mauro isn't too bad.
Hope he’s right.
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 8:11 PM PDT reply actions
I want to believe him, but you don't lay still on the ground for that long without something feeling off.
Kneee injuries can be tricky enough, let alone when someone says they really hurt.
If it were really bad Mauro wouldn't stiil be sitting on the bench.
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is my hope as well.
Seems like they would rush him to X-Ray if they suspected something really bad
by Sounders4life on Oct 22, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I agree, doesn't look like a horrible season ending thing.
But, i’d be surprised if it doesn’t add a week or two before he plays again.
game is slow and stagnant right now
needs more Montero
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Wow that was a pretty healthy injection.
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Riley
Needs to get it together sharpish. That’s 3 times with passes straight to opposition now.
Little miscommunication between Montero-Fucito-Levesque there
I think that was supposed to be far post to levesque and once Mike headed it Roger didn’t try to recover the errant shot
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Looked like it
I was looking forward to being able to justify screaming “ROOOOOGEEEEEER!” again but then Fucito knocked it away.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I think you meant trolled
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So, for a Dallas-Huston or Dallas-NYRB game, who are you picking?
At this point Dallas seems a likely one-and-done.
I'd pick Houston, but not NYRB
Consider that FCD is hosting.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 8:26 PM PDT up reply actions
4th goal was in the 38th minute.
Sounders 'til I die
by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 8:20 PM PDT up reply actions
The funny thing is
this just makes me want to play Dallas in the playoffs even more.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
We just got away with a handball in the box
You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.
So we'd be down a goal
And they’d be down a player.
We are more likely then not to get a point when we go down first. I’d take that situation.
Fuck you Zemanski
You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.
On what planet is that not a booking??
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
On the planet where referees are idiots and don't give second yellows
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2011 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Planet MLS
You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.
Unless they forgot about the first yellow
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2011 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Still makes them idiots
You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. Our yachts are all around you, there is no escape.
You can't stop Alvaro Fernandez
You can only pull him down from behind
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The second yellow may send you off,
but the first seems to be a get out of jail free card.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Should have been a yellow
I hate when refs require the second yellow to be “orange”. If you’ve already been carded you need to cool down, not the ref.
by Derek R on Oct 22, 2011 8:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Especially when the first yellow was a reckless challenge that hurt a player (who has previously been targeted)
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
I agree with this.
If it’s a yellow card offense when the player has no cards, it should still be a yellow card even if the player already has one.
Lucky boy, Zemanski.
In many ways
Chivas is the epitome of everything that is wrong with MLS.
by Targaff on Oct 22, 2011 8:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I hate playing these Central American teams.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Their only season highlights
have been injuring more talented players than them.
by Dustin Titus on Oct 22, 2011 8:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
One minute?
Did your watch stop or something?
by Targaff on Oct 22, 2011 8:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Well, let's go check in on the Cougs.
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 8:24 PM PDT reply actions
wow crazy play right there
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To Coug
You have to drop a lead, its been back and forth all game so far. It’ll be Coug’d when we go ahead in the 3rd to then lose it in the 4th.
Coug City Sounder
by Tenacious Tom on Oct 22, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Halftime 0:0
Notes: Mauro left injured. Roger Levesque his replacement.
Zemanski with a yellow. Roger with a yellow.
Boring game
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about 10 years ago
I tore my Achilles playing. I walked off the field, after the game walked to my car, drove home, and took a shower before I figured I better get it checked out. The next morning I was in surgery.
by PeterJH on Oct 22, 2011 8:32 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I work with a guy who tore his ACL pretty bad
walked to his truck and drove home. Called the doctor and was out of work for 3 months.
Difference being
He’s a professional athlete and is surrounded by medical crew who know their stuff. While it’s totally possible he could just not feel as injured as he is. If the medical crew thought he took more then just a knock I doubt he’d still be on the bench or have walked out at half time.
The physios know their stuff
If they’d had the slightest question about a tear, he wouldn’t be walking off.
Remember the last time was only a partial tear of his his MCL, and they stretchered him immediately into the locker room.
I’m not saying there’s no way he’s not out next week, but him walking around is a great sign for us.
Did I just see a cheerleader in a Robin costume?
being followed by a cheerleader in an Indian costume?
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Yes, apparently I did.
Sounders 'til I die
by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I went to high school with a Ben Szymanski
He wasn’t near the asshat that this guy is.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 8:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
SJ:4 DAL:1
At least George John doesn’t roll over so easily.
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A certain national soccer writer claims Dallas did this to get rest
Here’s a news flash
WIN
And then you get to rest.
Lose and now their starters have to play 4 games in 10 days.
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Not to mention flying back and forth across the country. Stupid move.
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Seattle is further from Dallas then New York is
At least by following the roads, but it’s 700 miles different.
Sofa King
Shoot for third, hope both semi’s end in upsets, you’re hosting the conference final, tanking for the wild card spot is stupid, stupid, stupid.
We will all be eating our words when Dallas is in the MLS cup final
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Nah, it'll be KC or NY.
KC has really fed on that new stadium and now they have it as a playoff advantage, and a properly motivated NY team can win it all, not to mention Philly is a tough out and still growing as a team, they’re so young.
This vitriol makes zero sense
The last 2 MLS cupchampions were western teams that got seeded into the east. If they get the bye they have to beat the second-best team in the league home and away and best team in the league away to make the final, whereas they’re looking at something like 10th best team at home → 5th best team home and away → 6th best team away to get to the final in the East. Neither route is unambiguously better than the other, though I do generally come down on preferring to get the bye.
Format is different than prior years
The condensed route for wild card teams of 4 games in 10 or 11 days with 3 of the 4 being on the road guaranteed is a much heavier disadvantage than prior years, so again, stupid, stupid, stupid.
Last year Colorado won 3 games in 18 days and 2 of them were at home as there were multiple wild cards in each Conference, completely different format.
I agree with Ives
Much easier in the East
by MMAWrestling on Oct 22, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
You agree that resting outside of the Playoffs is better than skipping a round?
His point was REST.
They get NONE by going to East
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They do get a game of guaranteed rest
It’s possible that they play their starters in SJ and still lose, giving them less rest than what they’ve gotten under the current scenario.
Conversely, they could start their reserves and still win in SJ, giving them the more extended rest they would want.
One in the hand is worth two in the bush. If Schellas is indifferent to seeding and only concerned about rest, he made the right call.
is there a feed?
I saw that someone said at HTTP://veetle.something above. Does it have it? None of the others, like firstrow did.
by SoundersForever on Oct 22, 2011 8:31 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Supposedly
I haven’t check it myself.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Veetle
Has been working for me, had to download some software for it though but so far no issues. Good quality too.
Coug City Sounder
by Tenacious Tom on Oct 22, 2011 8:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, the veetle link above works
We’re at half so there’s commercials at the moment, here’s the link again.
http://veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4e7e50d3f13a8
Veetle is a popular streaming site so it probably wasn't hard
There’s often good streams there of all sorts, movies, sports, etc, Justin.tv has some decent streams sometimes too.
And since Veetle is popular
And might have this event if many of the other list streaming sites don’t have a link to it, probably how he found it.
Lets all hope the extra weed is enough for Rosales to recover from the
latest hack job at the hands of marginal thugs in MLS
Those keyboards usually learn the most common words that you use.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 8:38 PM PDT up reply actions
whats this about mauro rosales and weed?
I thought I couldnt like him anymore but I dont want him to get pinched by CONCACAF
Week?
Or do you know something I do not?
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 8:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Is anybody else vaguely uncomfortable with the way Chivas are marketed?
They are so blatantly designed to be the team in LA for Hispanic fans. Which of course has a lot less money then the “native” LA Galaxy. Not to mention that both teams go to Home Depot, but have vastly different experiences.
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I does feel off
Not sure if that’s because of MLS or if it’s just because Chivas considers it a lost leader marketing tool for the Mexican side
They've been trying to change that image this year
Prior to this year it was Hispanic everything, coaches, players, there was really a focus, it obviously wasn’t completely working, so they’re changing the direction by not being as xenophobic in their choices, hence the new coach and many players.
To answer your question though, as a half Mexican mutt myself, LA was obviously the glamor team, I can see an argument for what they attempted, but I hate xenophobia, so I couldn’t say I’d agree with it and I guess I could say yeah, it’s sort of odd.
If you watch advertising banner, they are almost all in Spanish.
One of them earlier was advertising something “imported from Detroit”.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
There's some Safeco advertising in Japanese
It’s all about speaking to your demographic. But Chivas was doing it pretty aggressively in more than just the advertising prior to this year.
It's basically Mets/Yankees
One team spends a ton of money and has douchebag fans, the other is mediocre and has relatively nice fans.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions
The Mets have the 7th highest payroll in baseball
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't say they didn't spend money
I said they were mediocre. And they still spend $84m less than the Yankees.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Oct 22, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
not really
They are owned by the Mexican team and the LA area is hugely hispanic, let alone first generation.
Time will tell if that’s not a biz model that works for them, but I have no problem with it. Anyone is free to go to the games.
On the other hand, I have always wondered why MLS doesnt try to field a Mexican side? Why not? Ciudad Juarez MLS team?!
and their checks are bigger
Why would an owner choose MLS over Mexican league?
They share the stadium with Monterrey
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Canada expanded its football league into America for a time
It got shuttered by the fact that College Football has a monopoly on minor league football here in the states, but it wasn’t a terrible idea.
The offense just feels so stagnant without Rosales
We just don’t know if we should go left or right.
Im starting to have flashbacks of what was probably the most boring game of the second half
0-0 against Chivas at Clink… zzzzzzzzzzzz
Arlo forgot the Pumpkin Pie Blizzard...
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 8:46 PM PDT reply actions
Ugh, now I want a blizzard.
Why are there no Dairy Queens on the west side?
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 8:49 PM PDT up reply actions
They aren't allowed in King County because their meat quality isn't good enough.
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
There's at least two in Renton alone
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Maybe it's just Seattle City limits.
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
That's the South side in my opinion.
I live in North Seattle.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
There's one in White Center.
And another in Burien.
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by LoiteringWithIntent on Oct 24, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Fredy is so lazy
He let Chivas score that for him.
by Thalas on Oct 22, 2011 8:48 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
I know you are joking
But Freddy looks so much stronger the last part of this year. He is winning physical challenges and always seems to be Jonny on the spot to poach goals.
Fredy looks great
I’ve never thought he was lazy, but some pundits like to call him lazy, so it’s more of a running joke for most of us I think.
OG bitches
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When the average game has 2.5 total goals
An 8 goal game is definitely an aberration, and 6 goals for one team is also. I’m just stoked we scored 54 in 34 so far which is more than our allotted 1.25 per game.
It would be nice to see an obstruction call every once in a while.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 8:55 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
i can't
recall the last time one was called.
Never gonna happen
When they keep the ball within playing distance.
Does Ochoa start in the playoffs,
or does he stick with Fucito and Ochoa first man off the bench?
I think it depends on the tactics of the team
being faced. More than the players.
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Based on our matches against RSL this year
I’d say Fucito gets the start.
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It's clear they can't handle him
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It's like what happpened to the USMNT against Mexico in the Gold Cup Final
We had bigger stronger veteran center backs, they had smaller faster younger forwards, we lost. Tactics can win and lose a game for sure.
While were at it can we start calling Estrada CHIPS?
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
This needs to be a Halloween photoshoot
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FLACO MUY BIEN
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Fernandez just has these small moments
where you ask yourself…why isn’t he the best player in the league. He just has such amazing skill and just can’t seem to force it on the game.
and he scores while i’m typing this…
11 goals on the year
and yet somehow we forget about him
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by Dave Clark on Oct 22, 2011 9:03 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Flaco is good at sports.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
It looked like he didn't even try for it.
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It was such a quick strike
That he had only a split second to react, he moved, but it was already too late.
OOooooooooochoa almost had one
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Slammin Sammy!!!
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He nutmegged the keeper with the header
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Seriously,
what is up with the nutmeg? I don’t even know if it is good or bad to “try” it.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 9:08 PM PDT up reply actions
So yeah I think this was a good use of a third round pick
by Aaron Campeau on Oct 22, 2011 9:08 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
We've only lost one good player in previous two years
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Do we know when the expansion draft will actually take place?
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Protected lists due Monday November 21st
According to the FO only Tetteh is exempt from being taken, we can protect 11 others, so that’ll be 12 that will be staying for sure.
Well, only one can be lost by a team
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i eagerly await the SaH post on the matter. It will be interesting
by Aasenb on Oct 22, 2011 9:19 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
There will be many
including the return of the protectnator
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Lord Mike forgive me for what I'm about to say
but I think we need to put Sammy on the list. He’s been solid, but he’s still only going to get better as he has a chance to get a rhythm with the team and come into fitness.
We dont forget about Flaco
We always remember that these are our best players without which we are nothing:
1) montero
2) rosales
3) fernandez
4) alonso
Sammy Sounder with the diving header=wow?
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
Was that a breaching move?
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by Dave Clark on Oct 22, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
SSSSAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMYYYYYYOOOOOOOOO!!!
Right off the Keepers balls.
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 9:08 PM PDT reply actions
Did anyone tell Kennedy before the game that he can use his hands to stop the ball
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Second time Fucito has gone off
and the offense took off. Sigi will be asking himself questions about this week.
As so often when a Forward comes on late
The previous Forward has softened up and tired the defense, and a fresh Forward can mince them up. Switch the roles and I’d fully expect Fucito to be the one scoring.
by Thalas on Oct 22, 2011 9:09 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Fucito especially is pretty bruising on defenders.
It’s not just the speed, he’s basically just a solid chunk of muscle. Combine that with the low center of gravity and his aggressiveness, and yeah…attrition.
This is exactly why you sub attacking players pretty much every game.
Fucito has been beneficiary of it in the past, and he has helped his subs out by pretty much constantly pounding on the defense.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
Yeah, I hate not using a Forward sub with 20 minutes or so
But it’s not like we’ve had a dearth of on form Forwards to do it with. With every Sammy goal he is proving that he deserves to be in that top of the rotation for us.
And then it will be Fucito going in against a tired defense
upon which the argument will flip. Honestly we need to compare Ochoa from the start of the match to Fucito from the start for it to be fair.
Well, last week it was because he came off for an MVP candidate
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by Dave Clark on Oct 22, 2011 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Evans goes after Zemanski there with a rough tackle
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Levesque
Props to Levesque tonight.
In all honesty he just like seeks to desperately pass immediately upon touching it, but on a couple of big runs he’s provided a smooth cog in the offense.
Impressed with what his admittedly limited roll is able to facilitate in our offense.
his skill set is largely mustache-based
by Aasenb on Oct 22, 2011 9:13 PM PDT via iPhone app up reply actions
No Zach Thornton this time
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Cards don''t carry over to the Playoffs right?
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 9:16 PM PDT reply actions
Correct, unless they add up to a missed game.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 9:17 PM PDT up reply actions
happy to be wrong
:D
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions
That was embellishment
but there was contact and if MLS referees aren’t going to call fouls unless there’s blood or broken bones I can’t be assed to care about embellishment
i kind of like shutouts and wins
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or not I guess I don't like shutouts
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Umm,
isn’t it kind of inappropriate to be throwing streamers on the field in the middle of an active play?
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Not like that.
If you watch again, they were throwing the streamers into the penalty box en mass before the goal. I personally throw streamers all the time, but it’s at the start of the game, start of the half, or after the goal. I don’t throw them into defenders actively guarding the goal.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Estupinan only needs 29 more goals to reach 30 goal prediction
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Leo for getting punched in the face?
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by Dave Clark on Oct 22, 2011 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
or
Montero gets shoved in the back and falls to the ground on the ball and gets carded for handball
It would be easier to give him another yellow for diving.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you see how Evans hit that Chivas players elbow
with his face? should have been a card
I remember Dallas getting a free kick at least when Fucito did the same.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds about like his style...
He has to get his dig in on Sigi every time.
by Dustin Titus on Oct 22, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Montero for another dive
when he was really just bending over to tie his shoe.
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I love the celebration though...
YAY WERE ONLY LOSING BY TWO!!
by DaveValleDrinkNight on Oct 22, 2011 9:19 PM PDT reply actions
In all fairness
Scoring isn’t something you see every match as a fan of Chivas.
I'm still at the best watch party every
20 women
me
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So you're at the Renton Senior Center?
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by 108Ultra on Oct 22, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
contemplated joining you
but only just got free
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 22, 2011 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions
You would have ruined the ratio.
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by SounderJunkie on Oct 22, 2011 9:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Well lookeee Trujillo punched another SOunder in the face
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That was Salazar's chance to red card one of our players
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The first guy in the coaces line for Chivas,
looked like a door to door bible salesman.
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Playoffs here we come!
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63 points in our third season. Yes please.
by AlexM on Oct 22, 2011 9:28 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
No matter how we do in the Playoff
This has been an epic year. A great year to be a Sounder fan.
Just saw Greg Vanney as part of Chivas' coaching staff
Former broadcaster for us, played under Sigi at UCLA
He had been running the RSL-AZ academy
Stuck with Fraser when he moved to LA
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oh yay now it's time for the playoffs. cause this traditionally goes well for seattle.
by Robert on Oct 22, 2011 9:29 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
We're a much better team this year
Equaled our USOC performances, bettered our CCL performance, bettered our MLS performance, I have high hopes.
I can't figure out why but even if Seattle had the 96 Bulls or 72 Dolphins I would have zero confidence the second the playoffs start.
That's the spirit!
MLS Cup or bust!
by PeterJH on Oct 22, 2011 9:51 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The feed just flipped over...
..to San Jose… Did Wondo get the Golden Boot? Who did if not?
by SoundersForever on Oct 22, 2011 9:31 PM PDT reply actions
the really cool thing now is
NO ONE wants to play the Sounders. Can you imagine the other team that has to play us. Real Salt Lake definitely doesnt want to play us. Galaxy fans are like, how do we have to play the Sounders before the finals?
NO ONE wants to play the Sounders.
We will eat them alive.
3 of our next 5 or 6 games
…will be Against the Galaxy, stretching into march of next year.
Even if we become MLS cup champs, we only have 4 more matches this year.
2 Will be in LA.
3 of 5 or 6 nedxt games will be played in LA, Galaxy or not.
Let’s write our destiny in the Southland. I know Sigi is extra motivated to go write history down there.
Your math is off
The Conference Final is a single game.
MLS Cup Final.
That’s it. two games against LA
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I am liking Ochoa
As a starting striker that is. He has the skills to play with this team and produce. He shows so much potential every time he takes the pitch. That guy has quality, Sounders will do very well with him.
Congrats to the FO for picking up yet another “throwaway”.
by AliasDictusTyrant on Oct 22, 2011 9:47 PM PDT reply actions
Well he wasn't really a throwaway
they did have to reach out and get him. Not to pick the nit, but do we really have any “throwaways”? Rosales was an established Argentine and Euro player who fell into our laps, Ozzie was a USL star, Ochoa couldn’t shake the bench in a much better league. I think all these guys are solid gets and less “throwaway”.
That is fair
My point was more why the other MLS sides did not pick Ochoa up. Everything I have seen since he has been a part of the Sounders is solid. It seems like a no-brainer and Seattle had to (nominally) stretch to get him.
It really makes me wonder, are the other MLS sides so clueless that they overlook this talent? No matter how you dice it, SSFC has had an above average ability to find talent.
by AliasDictusTyrant on Oct 22, 2011 10:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Im really getting tired of watching the thugs in the league assault our best players
.. and the league do nothing in response but shrug. Hanauer and Schmid ought to sit down with Garber and explain, theres a reason why Seattle outdraws your league by double. We like up tempo attacking clean play. If you want to play like Mullen, or like Chivas or the Revs or like Chiacgo… if you want dumb boring 1-0 games where everyone stands around, played before 10,000 to 20,000 fans. Then by all means keep not protecting our stars from assaults by thug players.
by luckystriker on Oct 22, 2011 10:47 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs

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