Mission Improbable
Saturday night's game against Real Salt Lake was a case study in ratcheting down expectations. Before the match kicked off, we were hoping for a repeat victory in Sandy and the opportunity to defend the lead from an advantageous position in the second leg at home. But it quickly became clear that Seattle was not going to play as well as RSL. They completely dominated the central midfield from minute one and Seattle was unable to find their game. My hope then became that we'd make it through a hard fought challenge and steal three points with a goal and tenacious defense.
But after Alvaro Saborio scored his first and the pressure didn't let up — with Seattle looking completely incompetent on the ball and Keller having to make a number of difficult saves — my new expectation formed during halftime was to get out of there with a stolen point, or maybe live with a 1-goal deficit which shouldn't be too much of a challenge to overcome at home when we got our tactics sorted. And then came Saborio's backheel golazo and the new expectation was to try to fight back for that one goal deficit.
And then as the final minutes ticked down and it became clear that Seattle wasn't going to get a goal, the expectation was to come home to fight back from a 2-goal deficit. Then Grabavoy scored in the 88th and the new expectation was . . uggghh. . I need another beer.
To help show just how painful that last goal was, here's what the Sounders' odds of winning the two-legged round would be after various scorelines in the first match, based on the sim we run all season:
| Seattle | RSL | Odds of Advancing |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | 0 | 77.7% |
| 0 | 0 | 52.7% |
| 0 | 1 | 33.8% |
| 0 | 2 | 17.6% |
| 0 | 3 | 9.1% |
Before that goal the contest was already a longshot. After it, we started entering we-need-a-miracle territory. Part of the problem is that despite the fact we know we need to go after it to get the three goals back, we don't have a lot of options to switch to a more attacking style. If we start at the back line, I think it's very unlikely we'll go three at the back. That's a formation the team has played in almost never (save for a few late game minute I vaguely recall) and it seems very unwise to try out a brand new formation for 90 minutes in a critical match. The team depends on its fullbacks getting forward to create chances and sacrificing that may even reduce the team's offensive capability.
At the midfield layer, you sometimes see teams sacrifice a defensive midfielder for a more offensive one, but we're not going to leave Osvaldo Alonso out. He's the best player at his position in the league (despite Saturday's incredibly forgettable game) and he's the heart and soul of the midfield. The wide midfielders already play as attacking wingers in the system, so they can't go any more forward. The only option I could see is to replace Alonso's partner. Generally we play a box-to-box midfielder alongside Ozzie — in either slightly more defensive (Erik Friberg) or offensive (Brad Evans) versions. You could imagine replacing that with an even more attacking midfielder drawn from the ranks of the wingers. The most likely candidate is Alvaro Fernandez. But again it's a formation we haven't played often enough this season and this seems like a bad time for experiments, especially if you need to hold the shutout. And we've seen Fredy Montero struggle to play alongside advanced midfielders in the past, as he tends to want to occupy the withdrawn forward space. And so it seems to me that we're not going to rely on any significant changes in formation or personnel (other than the hoped-for return of Mauro Rosales). We're going to have to dance with the girl that we brought here.
And yet the task isn't quite impossible (thus the title). When you break it down into component parts, each doesn't seem out of reach. First, you need a shutout, and Seattle is certainly capable of shutting out even good teams. The titanic LA Galaxy got out of here with just one goal on a long, arguably fortunate Juninho shot. Seattle didn't give up more than a goal at home through almost the first half of the season until Eric Hassli's Goal of the Season in stoppage time gave the Vancouver Whitecaps two. Kasey Keller is in great form and can be relied on for a world class save or two a game. So holding Salt Lake to 0 will be a challenge, but one that Seattle has risen to many times.
Second, they have to score a goal in the first half to keep the crowd in the game and start the momentum. Child's play. The team led the league in goals this season and should be up to the task of getting one by Rimando.
Third, they have to score two in the second period. The Sounders have been late-game dynamos all year. Their record in scoring late to come back from deficits or take late leads is ridiculous. They can't leave the second goal too late — you don't want to be in a position of needing two with less than 10 minutes or so left. But if the first comes after halftime, the crowd stays in it and RSL bunker in to hold off the tide, you have to like Seattle's chances do it again and find that third late.
And if they do that, all bets are off. It's an even game and we would take two overtime periods at home, and if not we look to team captain and US legend Kasey Keller to do work on penalties. We're at even odds at worst and should feel like favorites. That's my recipe for the comeback and no ingredient in it seems daunting. Seattle has overcome a tremendous amount of adversity this season, from relentless disastrous injuries to key players to a ridiculous run of early season bad luck that had them losing points to a goal of the week or save of the week nearly every match. And yet they hung in the Supporters Shield race with a historically good Galaxy to the last weeks of the season, won the US Open Cup, won the Cascadia Cup, and reached the group stage of the CCL — just about every reasonable goal even an optimistic fan could draw up for them. It's time for one more show of belief against long odds.
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It starts with one (and early) for a big result
Sounders play better after they “get off the block”, “get their feet wet”, “feel the rhythm”, “put the ball in the f*&#ing net” whatever cliche you want to use.
Flaco scored in 9th on 4/30 v Toronto result 3-0
Friberg scored in 11th minute on 6/23 v NYRB result 4-2
Flaco scores in 7th on 7/16 v Rapids result 4-3
Neagle scores in 4th on 8/27 v Columbus result 6-2
Fucito in the 35th on 9/17 v DC result 3-0
I will be cheering, singing and drinking on Wednesday. Let’g go get us some free tacos and haircuts everybody!! Take em ALL!!
Nos audietis in somniis, Nos audietis in altum: You will hear us!
by chrisso on Oct 31, 2011 11:57 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I will be there cheering my butt off with these numbers in mind
and hopefully not clinging to false hopes. This would be a terrible way to end the season, but man what a season it was!
by chrisperry1983 on Oct 31, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
The difference here...
Because of the home-and-home aggregate format, we already missed our chance for an early goal. If we score early on Wednesday, we’ll still be down 3-1. I think this is a meaningful difference, because I think the early lead helps open the gates for us because it usually forces the opposition to be more aggressive, which opens up space. RSL won’t have to be more aggressive because they’ll still have the lead.
Still feeling gutted
While others may say “fire Sigi” or “blow up the team”, I am still holding out hope, but will admit I am thinking with the glass half empty then half full right now.
I will say I’d like to see something done if we do not advance this go around, but not sure what I would do. This is a solid team, but I question if the playoff games make them too nervous?
If we kept getting knocked out of 1st round, thats fine as long as we show fight and play like we played most of the season. Looking at other teams this weekend; NY, PHI, Huston, SKC (be it that the teams they were faced with), played solid games. What worries me is, other than the Huston in 09’ and maybe 1st leg of the LA game in 10’ I have not seen us play a confident soccer.
That is what worries me. The fact that we are 0-1-4 with only 1 goal, when I know we can do better. For some reason we get schooled in big games (you could say USOC, but not sure it is too much of the same, as this is bigger in other teams mindset) I love this team to death and this sport regardless, but something is up with us playing like we do during playoff games. Other than getting too nervous possibly, I do not know what it is.
Still, a comeback is possible (San Jose against LA), but we’ll see.
by TheDarkPassenger on Oct 31, 2011 12:01 PM PDT reply actions
Uh. Fire Sigi?
Stop reading the comments on newspaper sports pages. It’ll bring your blood pressure waaaaay down.
Sports.
by mdkathon on Oct 31, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Sorry, not saying I would "fire Sigi" or blow up the team.
Just that I know there are some out there that are being over emotional and frustrated about the loss. I should of been more clear when typing up the post.
by TheDarkPassenger on Oct 31, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
People making those comments are idiots
and they seem to pop up every now and again. To call for Sigi’s head after a bad playoff loss immediately forgetting about our blowout season, CCL advancement, and 3rd USOC championship is completely insane.
by chrisperry1983 on Oct 31, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Haha. Next time I will just say that.
Thanks.
Sports.
After restful contemplation, i.e. sobering up...
This was a kick-in-the-gut game for the Faithful. And I do worry that many will scream bloody murder if our game Weds is anything but competitive. Realistically, the Sounders are damned if they do, damned if they don’t, and just plain damned. Anything short of miracle comeback regardless of how we do it and Sigi will get second-guessed to death. Stick with the 4-4-2, why didn’t you change it, what’s to lose? Go with a 3-5-2 or other, and why did you change to an unfamiliar system? And even worse, if we take a 0-2 or greater loss at home, oh boy, climb into the foxholes. Today is one day (albeit rare) that I am glad not to be Sigi.
I would say start with an extreme offensive set and see how it goes and RSL adjusts. I suspect RSL will be in a version of a bunker and counter regardless of what we do. But I agree with you that if we jump on them early with a goal, the crowd will be oppressive to them. If we go 3-5-2 (or even the 3-3-3-1), get a goal and force them into an early all-out bunker, we have a shot. Go will the finesse 4-4-2, and we have to crash players forward out of position and that leaves us open for counter. I can promise you that we can absolutely make RSL play out of position on purpose—if we put 5 forward, RSL is putting at least 6 back—and we have nothing to lose.
One other thought too is that if we have a ton of bodies forward, get the first goal, and force an all-out bunker early, I suspect the possibility of a red card foul by RSL will go way up.
by Brougham Hooligan on Oct 31, 2011 12:16 PM PDT reply actions
Crap, no Mauro likely
Schmid said (per Jmayers on twitter) Rosales is improving: “I still think it’s more of an outside shot, but at least it’s a shot.” If there is any question on long term injury, don’t play Mauro. This game is too remote of a chance and we absolutely need him for CCL group stage.
by Brougham Hooligan on Oct 31, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Holy cow
Don’t know if you are following the Twitterverse, but per jmayers: Keller: “We didn’t come in for the fight. … Why that happened in a playoff game, I have no idea.” Good grief. I think we need a good sports psychologist in addition to a forward this offseason.
by Brougham Hooligan on Oct 31, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
All I can say is, Fucito better be on the pitch at the start of this match.
And Neagle’s head better be in it this time. He provided zero offense and zero defense the entire time he was in the game on Saturday.
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yessir
That’s my recipe for the comeback and no ingredient in it seems daunting.
Yes, that is a pretty plausible story … though my intuition is the likelihood of each independent part falling into place results ends up well below the 9% your sim predicted, and that if you add in all the other, less likely narratives that arrive at victory, you do end up w/ something around 1:10 odds.
I can't stop this feeling....
….that we are not truly out of it. This is why my hopes will likely be crushed on Wednesday but, while disappointed now, I am not searching for the sleeping pills just yet.
By the way, any calls to blow up the team or fire Sigi are coming from people who are not paying attention. This team is great (not good, great) and has accomplished much despite a limited roster size made worse by impactful injuries. My hope is that we can fend off richer clubs (Fredy, Ozzie) and get healther (O’brian, Stevie, Mauro) and we will be trouble next year. LA is fading and we are on the up.
Sounds A Bit Optimistic
The top two things on your keys are keeping a clean sheet and scoring a goal in the first half. Given the past month or so I have a hard time believing either is likely.
The defense has been an issue especially in the past 6 weeks or so. In particular it has been characterized by confusion among the back line, really idiotic passing/turnovers, and soft goals.
With respect to scoring early, that certainly not been a characteristic of this club. The club has been living on the edge for a while with respect to giving up the initial goal and then coming from behind.
Anything can happen and I’ll be at the game, but I don’t hold out much hope. And the keys to the match listed are the very weaknesses RSL exploited so well in game 1.
Sure, but
Do you really want to go into Wednesday with that approach as a supporter? I realize its more hope and hot air, but .. there’s no point in attending unless you believe. Thats my .02 .
Likely, no. But will it happen? HELLS YEAH.
by luckystriker on Oct 31, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions
As a supporter
Trust me, I’ve asked myself that very question (and I’m sure I’m not the only one). I am going for a couple of reasons:
- To support my team. I’m massively disappointed and not optimistic but then that’s soccer (I plan to re-read Nick Hornby’s Fever Pitch as a reminder)
- To honor Keller
The likelyhood of going home Wednesday
Happy is much lower. However if they do pull it off it is going to be more impressive and fun than any game before.
We all want to see a 4-nil result.
I’ve been to all of our poor results at home, and all of our great ones… For a split second, I feel it when we lose. Though as snesbitt said… “as a supporter” … it almost sums everything up without additional bulletpoints (though they are nice). We’re they’re to support, and celebrate our time. Win, lose, rain, shine, etc.
Meh. Still want a 4-nil. :)
Sports.
Thats about as positive a spin as you could put.
Here’s my own .02 . We have seen this team learn from its mistakes, and keep plugging ahead, regardless. It knows what it has to do, and I expect it will come out and give its best shot to do it.
Can’t ask for more. COME ON SEATTLE
One thing we do have Wednesday...
Its that we’ve played great all year off 3 days rest. Does anyone know how RSL has played off of short rest?
by olddev on Oct 31, 2011 1:20 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I thought at the beginning of the game that RSL seemed to be exerting a lot of effort
Given how they bossed possession, I’m not sure that they ran more than we did by the end of the game, but we can hope that fitness comes into play to our advantage. Starting Fucito seemingly gives us more speed and (somewhat surprisingly) physicality up top than Ochoa, which could help us out.
Mainly I think we need to figure out some way of holding more possession. Once we hold a lot of possession, we get our shots, and if we start putting shots on goal, there’s a chance. We could get a bunch of chances on the counter, somehow I guess, but I don’t see that happening for a number of reasons.
Can we get something off the ground by Wed.
I’d like to see thousands of “I Believe” signs on Wed.
by blakec on Oct 31, 2011 1:28 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I choose to believe in the improbable.
I am looking forward to a game powered by character and heart, regardless of the playoffs.
Shots
I could only do a quick look at stats, and quality certainly plays a role, but we need to generate as many shots as possible. At the least, that would indicate possession. Second, it likely means Sounders are all over the place in the box. I don’t know about you, but I’d love to see a chance at a PK… when you need three (for starters), a freebie is nice to have…
I've been continually surprised by Beckerman's chippiness recently
I always kinda thought of him as a sage wise man, or something. RSL’s James Riley equivalent in personality if you will.
by chrisperry1983 on Nov 1, 2011 7:23 AM PDT up reply actions

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