State of the MLS Run In: 3 Weeks to Go
As the regular season winds down I'm going to be posting a weekly summary of the some of the data and predictions we're generating, which should give you some context going into each week of games.
This one comes a day late thanks to the focus on the US Open Cup final yesterday, but the upside of that is that the game between the New York Red Bulls and the Los Angeles Galaxy last night will factor into the results.
That Galaxy loss keeps the thin thread of hope the Sounders have for winning the Supporters Shield. With a 7 point lead and three Seattle games remaining, a Galaxy win in either of their final two matches would put it out of reach. The Sounders could survive one or even two LA draws, but would have to win out their remaining three games (not out of the realm of possibility given their recent form).
The closely contested Eastern Conference continues to be a very dynamic race. Last week we had New York projected out of the playoffs, but now they're projected to skip the wild cards completely and claim the 3rd spot in the East. Their rise comes largely at the expense of DC United, who drop from a projected #2 in the East to completely out of the playoffs thanks to consecutive losses to Eastern Conference playoff rivals, and the Houston Dynamo, who have played well recently but suffered a home draw to distant playoff hopefuls Chicago Fire. And the pressure on the current wild cards has only increased as those same Fire and the Portland Timbers — two teams who have until recently been on the margins of the playoff race — have refused to fade away and continue to make a (still admittedly unlikely) case. That's also caused the number of points likely needed to make the playoffs to jump up, and it's now above 45 points for the first time all season.
Playoff & Trophy Probabilities
This is each team's up to date odds of making the playoffs, winning the Supporter's Shield, and winning the MLS Cup based on simulating the remainder of the season 10000 times.
| Avg Pos | Avg Points | Playoff % | Change | Supporters Shield % | MLS Cup % | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Los Angeles | 1.04 | 67.13 | 100.0 | -- | 95.69 | 29.19 |
| Seattle | 1.97 | 62.01 | 100.0 | -- | 4.31 | 16.25 |
| Real Salt Lake | 3.03 | 55.43 | 100.0 | -- | 0.0 | 9.71 |
| FC Dallas | 5.11 | 50.16 | 99.86 | -0.14 | 0.0 | 4.10 |
| Kansas City | 6.44 | 47.97 | 97.35 | +4.01 | 0.0 | 10.13 |
| Philadelphia | 6.50 | 48.00 | 95.90 | +8.65 | 0.0 | 8.75 |
| Colorado | 6.71 | 48.03 | 97.52 | +7.35 | 0.0 | 4.05 |
| New York | 8.53 | 45.71 | 79.52 | +17.11 | 0.0 | 6.05 |
| Columbus | 8.83 | 46.25 | 76.31 | -10.05 | 0.0 | 4.20 |
| Houston | 9.51 | 45.42 | 65.05 | -23.06 | 0.0 | 2.65 |
| DC United | 10.01 | 44.52 | 50.91 | -36.50 | 0.0 | 3.80 |
| Portland | 11.28 | 43.65 | 25.68 | +13.08 | 0.0 | 0.47 |
| Chicago | 12.26 | 41.57 | 11.90 | +8.15 | 0.0 | 0.65 |
| Chivas USA | 13.95 | 38.09 | 0.0 | -2.10 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| San Jose | 15.15 | 35.50 | 0.0 | -0.16 | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| Toronto FC | 16.05 | 33.60 | 0.0 | -- | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| New England | 16.72 | 31.14 | 0.0 | -- | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| Vancouver | 17.90 | 26.66 | 0.0 | -- | 0.0 | 0.0 |
| Avg Pts for Playoffs | 45.12 | |||||
Teams Eliminated
Teams that have been eliminated by three decreasingly stringent standards. Read here for more details.
Last week the Whitecaps were the first team officially eliminated from the playoffs thanks to a home loss to the Sounders. And this weekend the New England Revolution became the second team to be eliminated when they. .wait for it. .lost at home to the Sounders. They were quickly joined by a big bundle of teams as time has quickly started to run out for teams currently outside the playoff picture.
Out Effective Elimination has, this late in the season, been rendered meaningless. It was built on the conservative estimate that at least 40 points would be needed for the playoffs, but now we already have 10 teams with at least 43 points, so I'm going to remove that standard from the report.
- Mathematical Elimination (Unable to make the playoffs in any scenario)
Chivas USA (new), San Jose (new), Toronto (new), New England (new), Vancouver - Projected Elimination (less than 1% chance of making the playoffs in simulation)
Chivas USA (new), San Jose, New England, Toronto FC, Vancouver
Remaining Strength of Schedule
Using the same simulation, we can also determine remaining schedule strength by seeing how a league average team would do with each team's remaining schedule. Teams at the top have schedules against which an average team got the most PPG, meaning we think they have the easiest remaining schedule.
DC United may get a reprieve from their recent bad run with three of their final four matches at home, though two of those are against Portland and Chicago — the two teams trying to fight their way into the playoff picture. For United, making the playoffs probably means ending the playoff dreams of those two. The Supporters Shield race is kept slightly more interesting by the fact that Seattle has a comparatively soft schedule and the Galaxy have a tougher one, with a 'home' match against Chivas and an away match against Houston, a team still fighting for their playoff lives.
| Avg Team Points | Matches | Pts / Match | |
|---|---|---|---|
| DC United | 6.476 | 4 | 1.619 |
| New England | 4.733 | 3 | 1.578 |
| Seattle | 4.592 | 3 | 1.531 |
| Chicago | 4.473 | 3 | 1.491 |
| Toronto FC | 2.972 | 2 | 1.486 |
| Vancouver | 5.93 | 4 | 1.483 |
| Colorado | 2.951 | 2 | 1.475 |
| Real Salt Lake | 4.2 | 3 | 1.4 |
| FC Dallas | 4.171 | 3 | 1.39 |
| Kansas City | 2.702 | 2 | 1.351 |
| San Jose | 3.977 | 3 | 1.326 |
| Philadelphia | 3.893 | 3 | 1.298 |
| Portland | 3.864 | 3 | 1.288 |
| Los Angeles | 2.547 | 2 | 1.274 |
| New York | 2.513 | 2 | 1.256 |
| Houston | 2.43 | 2 | 1.215 |
| Columbus | 2.309 | 2 | 1.154 |
| Chivas USA | 2.033 | 2 | 1.016 |
Seattle's First Round Opponent
This is the likelihood of each team being the first playoff opponent for Seattle (either in the preliminary round or — more likely — in the Conference Semifinals).
The odds haven't changed from last week, with Real Salt Lake being the overwhelming favorite to take on Seattle in the playoffs. FC Dallas still has a slim hope to make the #3 seed.
| Matchup % | |
|---|---|
| Real Salt Lake | 92.62% |
| FC Dallas | 3.62% |
Cascadia Cup Odds
Seattle won the 2011 Cascadia Cup
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I've been meaning to ask
And apologies if it’s already been answered,
but how can a team who is on the outside looking in (such as DCU) have a better than even chance of making the playoffs? (at 50.91%)
Put another way, how can 11 teams be likely to make the cut?
note: statistics is not my strong suit.
The probability of them making it...
Correlates with the probability of the teams above them not. Add up all the s. You should get 100 x 10 spots, +/- rounding errors.
I believe that the percentages should add up
to 1000%, since 10 teams will make it. There’s roughly an 80% chance that one of: NY, COL or HOU don’t make it in, and DCU has a good chance of taking their spot.
It's because DC could make the playoffs by passing New York or Columbus or Houston
Simplify the situation to a 4-team race for 3 spots with 3 favorites and 1 underdog. If the favorites each had an 80% chance of getting in, that would leave a 60% chance for the final team to make it, which adds to 3 spots total: .8 + .8 + .8 + .6 = 3.
It is a bit non-intuitive at first, but once you get into multi-team races like this, it’s easy for the numbers to seem a bit wacky.
Thanks.
So obvious now that I actually think about it.
Like if you were going to give 9 out of 10 people a prize. Each would have a 90% chance. Duh.
wow
that’s a really easy way to put it. I honestly never thought of it like that…
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Oct 6, 2011 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
SS = 4.31 percent.
“So your telling me there’s a chance?”
by SoundersForever on Oct 5, 2011 10:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
How is NY projected to finish higher than DC
Despite having fewer projected average points?
by quacker27 on Oct 5, 2011 10:23 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Probably because New York has KC and Philly on the schedule
so in the cases where it does win one or more games it benefits more in the standings (by knocking competitors down). Whereas Columbus is playing non-playoff teams.
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Sounders SS hopes CANNOT survive 2 Galaxy draws
2 draws puts the Galaxy at 66 points, and that is the Most Seattle can get. Galaxy owns the first tie-breaker over the Sounders if they both end up at 66, which is also out of reach for every other team.
Worst case scenario:
Galaxy loses and ties their remaining two. Certainly possible, but I’m not holding my breath.
by chrisperry1983 on Oct 6, 2011 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions
First tie breaker is gd, which the galaxy are only up by 3
Still possible if the galaxy draw both their games, and we have to go up by at least 3 on gd if we were to win our last 3 (required to get SS anyways)
That isn't the first tiebreaker
First tie breaker is Head2Head record by PPM
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The Galaxy don't play again until October 16 ...
… so all the Sounders need to focus on is winning their two games on October 8 and 15 against PHI and SJ. If they can pull off those wins, it will be LAG with 64, and the Sounders with 63, and LAG will have a game in hand. Still not a great scenario, but much more manageable than it looks now.
The two games left for LA will be the SuperClassico with Chivas and away at Houston. Chivas should take that game seriously, and Houston might be fighting for their playoff lives, so it’s not necessarily a mortal lock for LA in those games. The scenario for the Sounders would be a LAG tie against Chivas (hey, they tied us, so it could happen!), and a loss to a playoff hungry Dynamo team. That would leave them at 65 points, and a Sounders win at Chivas in our last game would deliver the SS to the Sounders at 66 points.
Of course, one Sounders loss or tie and this entire scenario crumbles…
All of this likely? Apparently only about 4.31% likely, but stranger things have definitely happened. Not quite in the Jim Carrey, Dumb and Dumber longshot category.
Just keeping the pressure on is important
We don’t want LA to feel like they can rest their aging starters before the playoffs.

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