Open Thread For Pre Protected List Trades
by Dave Clark on Nov 21, 2011 2:00 PM PST
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PrintAlready two trades have become known. Ryan Smith goes to Chivas USA for 1st and 3rd Round Supplemental draft picks. That's picks 43 and 81 overall. so we're talking no-risk, flyer types in a draft that constantly adds more picks. Also, it came out today that the Portland Timbers loan of Ryan Pore also included an international slot and a promise from the Montreal Impact that they wouldn't take a player who ended the year on Portland's active roster.
As teams try to posture for the Expansion Draft there may be a few more moves. Consider this an open thread to talk about non-Seattle Sounders trades. If those go down expect a full post on it.
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I'm surprised there weren't more "don't take from us" trades.
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well
the day isn’t over yet and like last year it could be another couple hours before the lists come out.
11 am Pacific was the dealine to submit lists tp MLS
2 pm Pacific was when they said they’d publish the list
Just assume that it will keep moving back
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"Soon" according to the Union.
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by Scott Kessler on Nov 21, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
With the details on the Pore loan + international slot for expansion draft protection
I wonder what the Sounders got for Montano’s loan. Was it simply to get him more playing time like Tetteh’s loan? Or was it something more like Pore’s loan where the Sounders got some concession regarding the expansion draft in return?
Here’s to hoping for the latter.
At the end of the year Sigi told us Montano's status was still TBD
with coming back to Seattle, moving to Montreal or returning to South America all being options. That’s a strong implication that there wasn’t anything pre-arranged.
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There
could be a similar like trade with Montreal but doesn’t involve Montano.
What does Montreal need with an international roster spot?
Don’t they already get a bunch of extra international spots on the roster since they are Canadian?
i think every team starts with eight
but more is always better, I guess
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Nov 21, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Aha, I see now that they've changed the rules since the Sounders entered MLS
It used to be that TFC got 13 international slots, 5 of which could apply to US-based players. Now it seems they let the Canadians count US-based players as domestic, but have a minimum number of Canadians per team. Seems like they should just count Americans and Canadians as domestic players for all teams, but I’m no expert in international labor law, so I don’t have any strong opinions one way or another.
last year teams started to announce their protected list before the league
who do you think will be the first team to announce theres this year
Fire had their list leaked by the Tribune:
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Not really a leak if the team is the source
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Breaking embargo (potentially) vs leak.
Perhaps misworded.
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by Scott Kessler on Nov 21, 2011 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
it's a broken embargo
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Nov 21, 2011 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
So long as Diego Chaves stays in the East, I found another reason to be okay with the ultra-unbalanced schedule
If he ends up in the West via Expansion Draft and trade, add another reason to hate it.
Shocked that Chaves is available
Unless there’s some underlying thing like he’s heading out of the league or has a crazy expensive option, they’d be insane not to take him.
by chrisperry1983 on Nov 21, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
Things I need to do today besides this whole expansion stuff
Haircut
Grocery Shopping
Banking
Beer
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Have you brewed lately?
I have 6 gallons in the primary right now.
by chrisperry1983 on Nov 21, 2011 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
I blew my last
I attempted a honey wheat. It was a fail. Still conditioning a Strong Ale. Going to start an Eisbock soon
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That sucks
I’ve been wanting to try to do a honey wheat, but I’m not confident enough to try a wheat beer yet, let alone with figuring out the chemistry with the honey. I’m still trying to get to a point where if I brew two batches that they come out tasting the same.
by chrisperry1983 on Nov 21, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Just drank the last of my spiced Quad...
Gotta talk to my brother-in-law and get something else in the primary.
by Abbott Smith on Nov 21, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions
Me too. : (
The Quad was our last batch. Decoction brewed and an alcohol content right at 10%. Man did it age well.
by Abbott Smith on Nov 21, 2011 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
RSL
@RealSaltLake protected player list: Rimando, Beltran, Borchers, Olave, Schuler, Wingert, Beckerman, Johnson, Morales, Espíndola, Saborío.
actually...isn't Gil GA? Auto-protected...
by chrisperry1983 on Nov 21, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah he's GA
He would be the first pick in the draft if he was actually left exposed.
Gil is a GA
Exempt I was thinking the same thing and just checked.
I would take Alvarez
Not his best year but he’s a talent
I have to say....
there is no one on this list that shouldn’t have been protected…that’s a solid 11. RSL has a quality side.
Jeremiah points out that so far SBN writers are 21 of 22 on known lists
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That I doubt
Philly has some GA issues.
I’ll bet over 90%
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Plus I'll be more of a risk taker than Nowak.
Didn’t protect Mondragon or Califf. Hardly see Nowak doing the same.
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by Scott Kessler on Nov 21, 2011 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
Is Califf on the outs?
Or just not expected to be taken due to age & salary?
by chrisperry1983 on Nov 21, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Will be 32 at the start of the season and costs $250,000.
Plus Valdes is his perfect center back partner. Rivas not as good as Valdes, much, much more injury prone and inconsistent.
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by Scott Kessler on Nov 21, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
Mondragon.
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by Scott Kessler on Nov 21, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
Who in their right mind would have a keeper as captain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Garber's still waiting for the Mutiny and Fusion's Protected List.
He’s getting a bit impatient.
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by J.Schnauzer on Nov 21, 2011 2:48 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I think Cosmos submitted a protected list
It includes Brian McBride and Pele
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by Dave Clark on Nov 21, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
beer?
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by Dave Clark on Nov 21, 2011 3:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
In Kansas City #MLSProtectedPlayerListsAreLate is trending on twitter.
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Some of my favorites:
- #MLSProtectedPlayerListsAreLate because the John Harkes cried all over the paperwork.
- #MLSProtectedPlayerListsAreLate because DC United put ‘Our Franchise’ on their list.
- #MLSProtectedPlayerListsAreLate because New England never turned one in. They didnt want to.
- #MLSProtectedPlayerListsAreLate because Seattle insists everyone use the form they invented.
- #MLSProtectedPlayerListsAreLate because Charlie Davis just threw himself down the stairs at the Home Depot Center and is screaming lawyer.
- #MLSProtectedPlayerListsAreLate because they meant 4 LA time because LA is the only club in the league.
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by J.Schnauzer on Nov 21, 2011 3:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
#2 is my favorite
Being a Sonics fan and all…
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by s0merand0mdude on Nov 21, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
they would
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Nov 21, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure they have to protect him or he is exposed...however,
I doubt they would do so with all the talk of house hunting in Paris and PSG. Montreal would be crazy to pick him. The Beckhams are not moving to Montreal…despite it being a beautiful city….because they don’t have to if they don’t want to. They are the Beckhams. More power to them.
The talk of househunting
included papers that said that Victoria was in Paris Sunday. Despite her being at the game.
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It's not like you lose *that* much by punting one expansion pick
If they pick Beckham, you never know what might happen. At the very least, it would keep LAG from having him, or they could probably get LAG to send them a draft pick in exchange for his rights. It’d be a gamble, but it could be worth taking.
Unless they have talked to him personally...
and he said he’d come, it would be a total waste. Montreal has no reason to anger LA…and Beckham would have many options. Where Findley was testing the waters, Becks could just go and play top tier
Montreal would definitely have a reason to anger LA
If LAG plans on bringing Beckham back and they don’t protect him, but Montreal doesn’t pick him, then effectively LAG would be protecting 12 players instead of 11. I know I’ll be perturbed if LAG doesn’t protect Beckham but still bring him back next year.
Hypothetical scenario:
If LAG does not protect Beckham, Montreal picks Beckham, and Beckham signs elsewhere, then Montreal would keep his rights, the same as Portland has the rights to Findley and Bornstein.
But there's a chance that Findley or Bornstein come back to MLS
If Becks leaves he’s done.
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I'm not convinced of that
I could see him leaving for a year and coming back (or at least trying to come back.) I’m not sure exactly who Montreal would be passing on by taking him, but it could be worth the risk.
i always
find the first full day of off-season when the league is expanding the worst.
Or the full time "NYC Stadium search guy"
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perhaps
full time on trying to find a permanent home for DC?
So the list comes out at 2pm today... er...
But we know Montreal’s picks on Weds? Know what time? If I remember right, didn’t that list come out on time/early last year? That wait is going to suck worse than this wait.
by SoundersForever on Nov 21, 2011 3:27 PM PST reply actions
If MLS starts working on "Hawaiian time"...
… I’m really going to need a beer.
by Abbott Smith on Nov 21, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
They already work on "island time"
Stuff just kind of happens near a schedule, but with no need to hurry
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maybe
i can demand compensation from MLS for a dead f5 key ;)
We were able to follow the expansion draft live as it happened last year
There was audio feed of it. I think it happened as a teleconference call.
Montreal is going to come out of this draft pretty good I do believe.
A Chavez—Fucito partnership up top is compelling.
you got
a source that says fuctio isn’t protected?
here is our list
Seattle’s protected list, by position: D: Parke, Hurtado MF: Neagle, Alonso, Rosales, Evans, Friberg, Zakuani, Fernandez F: Montero, Ochoa
i got that
friberg was protected but evans? So i was off by 1 not bad.
I am not sure...
I think I might rather see Stevie with a shot up top. He is a good finisher and any loss of speed would be less troubling up top than out of the wing. Regardless, it is a good problem to have that we are trying to fit in all of our attacking talent into the starting eleven.
yeah, i'll take problems like these
Not sure I see Zak up top since he’s so dangerous off the flanks, but this is why we have training camps.
Wow our midfield is deep
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by s0merand0mdude on Nov 21, 2011 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
chivas list
Angel, Braun, Flores, Kennedy, LaBrocca, Smith, Moreno,Nagamura, Pearce, Umana, Zemanski. (exempt: Bowen/DeLa Fuente)
There is no offseason...
The last season wrapped up less than 24 hours ago and I am going to be worried for the next 48.
If I were a betting man, I bet Riley goes.
by @Thomas513 on Nov 21, 2011 3:56 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I am not that familiar with LA's depth...
…but glancing at their unprotected list, I don’t see anyone who is more valuable than Saunders or Ricketts.
That said, I agree with your statement that it's a bit strange
It seems unlikely that they will keep both, but maybe their trade value isn’t what we think it is and they want solid depth at that position.
the other thing is they can only lose one
and if they lose one then at least they have the other cause they are both starting keeper potential
Michael Stephens showed last year he could do well.
A little young for the center mid though.
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The Protectinator was pretty accurate
It got ten right but included Riley and left out Evans.
I also went 10/11 but left out Friberg and included Riley. Damn international slots got me.
Oh damn it to hell.
We didnt protect Fucito. Damnit Sigi.
His only chance is if Montreal like other available forwards ahead of him.
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or if they really want an outside back
but i think fucito at minimum is too good to pass up.
I think
there may be a little hometown overvaluing going on when it comes to Fucito…
Hanauer's comment
“Given the fact we’ve lost three players to expansion drafts the past two seasons we are bracing ourselves for the possibility of losing someone,” said Sounders FC general manager Adrian Hanauer. “Despite those losses we have developed a deep squad and grown stronger. We couldn’t protect everyone, so some of those who contributed significantly to our success are bound to be exposed. It will be interesting to see how Montreal approaches this.”
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Where I struggle...
…is picking a guy from our list I’d rather have left off. Swap Fucito (or Riley) in there for just about anyone else, and I’d be saying the same.
Being good and having depth: awesome most days, sucks for expansion drafts.
we can do this all day...
Personal preference would be to keep Fucito. But losing any of Fucito, Friberg, Evans or Riley is going to leave a hole.
I was just as frustrated with Evans at times, but he does contribute.
Sure he does.
But we have a logjam in the MF and a question mark next to Fredy up top. Doesn’t make a lot of sense to me to protect the logjam.
and I don't mean that to say you're wrong.
Just tough with some of these guys. I’m not going to like losing whoever we lose.
Though Jaqua does need a fresh start someplace…
"It will be interesting to see how Montreal approaches this."
That’s an understatement. The Sounders approached the draft as a way to acquire talent for their team—not talent to build around, but as complementary pieces. I think Philly more or less followed a similar strategy.
Portland and Vancouver, on the other hand, seemingly approached the draft as an exercise in using their draft picks to trade for stuff from other teams.
If Montreal takes the latter approach, then you would expect more or less that the 10 best unprotected players will be picked and either kept or traded for something that fits Montreal’s plans better. If they take the former approach, then you’d expect them to pay more attention to their positional needs (i.e. do we need a RB? Are we going to be thin at striker?)
The latter approach seems better to me in principle, but I’m not sure that Portland or Vancouver really pulled it off that well. And in either approach, they still can have different preferences on acquiring young talent for the future and building slowly or trying to win now.
I disagree
I think the former is the better approach, both in practice and in principle. Getting a solid group of role players for free is less risky than trying to pick a bunch of trade bait. What if the deals fall through and you’re stuck with these people. In any case, the latter strategy has other teams driving your decisions when you should be focusing on what you need.
I guess I would clarify this way
It completely depends on what you are getting in return in your trades and I am assuming that the deals would be in place. I just think that if the best player available doesn’t fit your scheme, you should probably be able to trade him for some players that do. Where it seemed to me that Vancouver and Portland went wrong last year was they seemed to trade mostly for allocation or international slots, and I think you ought to get better value than that in the expansion draft.
I think it’s a bit of an overstatement to say that other teams would be driving your decisions since you would only agree to a trade that addressed a need you have.
In the expansion draft, I'd rather get a second string guy in a position I need over trade bait
You can find your first teamers elsewhere if need be. If you’re going in looking for trade bait, then you’re focusing on what you can get out of other teams need or want, rather than just focusing on your needs. It’s a level of indirection that is rarely worth the effort, in my opinion. If you’ve got one or two blockbuster deals worked out, great, do that. But going into the expansion draft with a trade first mindset is a mistake.
So what players would you grab from other teams if you were Montreal?
Any players that seem automatic pick ups?
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They've gotta take Jaqua
How could you pass up an opportunity to get his kind of finishing talents?
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by s0merand0mdude on Nov 21, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
zarek valentin
i don’t get why he was left exposed.
Yup.
Riley should be back with us after seeing that.
On a serious note if they've got the money SKC left Omar Bravo open
Freddy Adu is also unprotected and underrated, Chad Berrett wouldn’t be bad, Brian Ching’s declining but still potent, Sanna Nyassi’s up for grabs, and Emmanuel Ekpo could help.
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by s0merand0mdude on Nov 21, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions
I imagine we have our sites set on a RB if we're not protecting Riley.
I’m curious to see who gets taken from your team. And almost equally as curious to see who Philly loses. Do you think Montreal picks Freddy Adu? Justin Mapp?
-Ben R.
*sights that is
Is Santino Quaranta worth taking from DC? Is Brian Ching retiring? Maybe take Chad Barret from LAG?
-Ben R.
Looking at DC
Brettschneider and Boskovic are both interesting in addition to Quaranta. Boskovich is pretty cheap for a DP and has done well on his national team, but is a risk coming off of injury. Brettschneider impressed a lot of DC fans as a young forward, so he could be in the same category as Fucito.
I kind of doubt they are definitely expecting Riley to go
I’m sure the Sounders have lists of all kinds of players—you never know when injury, plague, etc. will strike—but I don’t think they are banking on Montreal picking Riley. Plus, you never know with these things. I think Fucito would make a lot of sense in a vacuum, but maybe they feel they’ll have 3-4 forwards already lined up for a system that doesn’t fit Fucito’s game that well. Maybe they see a ton of potential in OBW and like that he counts towards their minimum number of Canadian players. Maybe they are dead set on Montano after his time with them and think they can make him into the next Brek Shea.
The one thing about the expansion draft that is predictable is that it is unpredictable. Last year everyone was worried about Nkufo going, but I don’t think anyone really had Nyassi and Sturgis as the two guys leaving, and certainly no one expected them to head to Colorado and TFC.
I think Fucito is pretty much a perfect expansion pick
He’s young enough to be at the top of his game, he’s inexpensive, and he has some experience in the league (and in CCL) so you basically know what you’re getting. The only real downside is injury risk, but it’s pretty tough to guage injury risk relative to other players, since anyone can get injured and some guys can be healthy for long stretches even if they’ve had some troubles in the past.
But even better than Fucito is … Nate Jaqua! Hey Montreal, Nate Jaqua is available! The last team to pick him in an expansion draft has done very well! Pay no attention to that Fucito over there.
other thing..
looking at some of these teams do you think teams other then portland have back room deals with montreal?
I hope we do.
Ryan Pore was pretty awful in his MLS appearances with the Timbers. I’d hope that Montano could get at least as much.
I got destroyed on predicting the line ups.
Perhaps because I’m no wear close to being Nowak in terms of tactical thought or strategy.
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Protect: Adu, Paunovic
Not protect: Daniel, Mondragon
Califf a question.
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by Scott Kessler on Nov 21, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
Shea Salinas especially.
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by Scott Kessler on Nov 21, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Maybe Hackworth?
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by Scott Kessler on Nov 21, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Earls had a whirlwind of a year.. I'm glad he ended up back at colorado and being used.
does nyassi have a green card?
They also decided not to protect Kimura.
Pretty confusing given how tough it can be to find good fullbacks in this league.
How bad was his season-ending injury?
They probably figure Montreal can find 10 guys who aren’t coming off an injury.
Kimura broke his foot
Out four to six weeks. He should be ready by opening night.
by James Bray on Nov 21, 2011 4:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I'll take Kimura
He’s just the kind of RB we need to back up Riley (or fight for a starting spot with him).
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Hell yeah I'd take Kimura
I don’t know how much his salary is, but he’s an above-average MLS RB. Wonder if Montreal is looking to do some horse-trading…
I'm thinking Riley won't get picked
With Kosuke Kimura available, I’d say the most likely Sounder to leave is one of Montano, Fucito, Ianni or White.
If I was picking for the Impact, I’d select either Ianni or Fucito.
by James Bray on Nov 21, 2011 4:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Good call..
On Ianni. He is very versatile, pretty cheap and durable. You could do a lot worse with an expansion pick.
Yes..however...
Montreal has already made the somewhat unusual move of signing a CB as their first DP in Nelson Rivas…so they may want to round out the rest of the squad before going back to a CB.
While this is true, building an above-average defense is a good way to compete quickly.
Montreal could potentially come out of the draft with Valentin and Ianni to add to Rivas. That would make for a pretty impressive three-quarters of a back line.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 22, 2011 9:33 AM PST up reply actions
I still have my doubts about Rivas
He really, really didn’t impress at Inter. Who knows how he’ll do in MLS, but I saw him as a pretty risky signing.
I actually agree completely.
But from the point of view of a team that was willing to pay him as much money as Montreal did, I can see the logic to the above thought process.
by Aaron Campeau on Nov 22, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
May be there was a last minute change in the Sounders list
If you look at the sounders list in mlssoccer.com site, it’s quite arranged alphabetically except for Neagle who is placed at the end. May be there was a last minute change to that list – someone got dropped and Neagle got added.
• Alonso, Osvaldo
• Evans, Brad
• Fernandez, Alvaro
• Friberg, Erik
• Hurtado, Jhon Kennedy
• Montero, Fredy
• Ochoa, Sammy
• Parke, Jeff
• Rosales, Mauro
• Zakuani, Steve
• Neagle, Lamar
Huh, that is kind of odd
Portland’s list is similar with Horst listed last. RSL’s is alphabetical except for Schuler. SJ’s list is two different alphabetical lists. Someone at MLS is probably just trying to mess with us.
If I were Montreal
I’d have to strongly consider Carassco, defensive mids are underrated and he’s been getting mentored behind one of the best in Alonso, as well as drawing comparisons to him.
Not a terrible idea...
…but they should also be able to get guys like Carrasco (very limited league experience) in the SuperDraft.
true..although
picking a guy you think you know in the Super Draft caries a lot more unknown and risk than taking a guy for whom you have fairly copious MLS, US Open and CCL tape. Lots of “sure things” in drafts end up being total washouts.
Some head-scratchers
Obviously Danny Earls protected over better players on Colorado’s roster.
Zarek Valentin and Blair Gavin are available from Chivas, but Moreno is protected.
San Jose already looks to be challenging for the wooden spoon next season. I can’t understand Yallop’s love affair with Sam Cronin. He’s a league-average center-mid.
Why are some teams protecting two goalkeepers? Really Revs?! Do you truly believe that Montreal will take – then keep or trade – Matt Reid or Bobby Shuttleworth? Have you not been paying attention to Montreal’s signing of Evan Busch and rumored interest in Bill Gaudette?
by James Bray on Nov 21, 2011 4:37 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Then what about Comminges or Folan?
Earls didn’t start over Comminges in the playoffs and they’re both leftbacks and internationals.
by James Bray on Nov 21, 2011 4:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Funny that Earls got the nod
He was waived, came here, didn’t make it, then re-signed back at Colorado. Did he suddenly get good?
by chrisperry1983 on Nov 21, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
My guess is the coaching situation in Colorado has them a bit rudderless
They don’t know what style their new coach will want to play and are just throwing darts at a dart-board.
Also why is Freddy Adu not playing?
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Nov 21, 2011 4:43 PM PST up reply actions
Because of his ankle and poor play.
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by Scott Kessler on Nov 21, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions
Yes. No one thought they could work together again.
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