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Sounders Win, And Lose To Real Salt Lake

Seattle's offense returned and sparkled, but wasn't perfect.

When a perfect game was needed, the Seattle Sounders merely put forth a great game. Saturday's first leg carried over only one element, the physicality. For the most part it was matched, but in the end Real Salt Lake advanced from the two leg aggregate series. Two goals were not enough, two goals were enough for a win and honor. Reactions to the game are a snapshot of how people approach their love of sport.

Many will be excited, hopeful and focused on all of the successes of the season. Others will be disappointed. They will look to the three straight MLS Cup Playoff failures and still feel after a strong game that Sigi's side didn't do enough. Both are in ways correct. Seattle's target of capturing an MLS Cup in Kasey Keller's final season fell short. Still the squad built by Adrian Hanauer showed more than all but a hand-full of MLS teams throughout history while overcoming several rounds of adversity.

Jason Kreis' side could not match the Seattle awfulness of Saturday, instead choosing to play physical, negative soccer. Sounders players fell into their trap of worrying about referees more than opponents. Two unfortunately also fell out of the match forcing early substitutions as Alvaro Fernandez and Brad Evans left the pitch. Replacing them were Roger Levesque and Lamar Neagle. Both put forward strong performances. The rest of the Rave Green matched or exceeded them.

Star-divide

In a game full of strong performances, the most notable came in the defense. Zach Scott entered the playoff contest helping overall defensive strength, but also symbolizing a more patient and accurate passing attack from the back four. Scott's pass completion rate only hit 59%, but even those errant balls shifted ball position as Seattle immediately snatched the ball back. The return of Osvaldo Alonso sparked a full team defensive effort that held RSL to a mere 57% passing rate.

When a team turns the ball over that much it enables a strong attack. On that cold, wet Wednesday Seattle's attack was as potent as ever, despite losing two of the stronger offensive forces on the squad in the first 21 minutes. Fredy Montero, Mike Fucito, Neagle and Alonso hammered the goal. Placing 17 shots in threatening spaces those four put pressure on Nick Rimando like he rarely sees, maybe never sees. Rimando, and Salt Lake, were saved by a defense that blocked 9 shots.

Fucito won a penalty, proving that Real Salt Lake can not handle his speedy, physical style. Alonso slotted that home. That sparked hope. Later than desired goal one opened things up. In the 61st minute Montero's through-ball found Neagle who put the tight angled shot away.

The mountain would not be summitted though. The third goal never came. Keller kept the game close with one vital save in the 79th minute. His swansong game needed him just one time. That one time showed exactly how good he still is. Kasey Keller never won a league title. His side couldn't do it in his final year. Instead they gave him three US Open Cups, three Playoff appearances, two CCL runs and the most wins in a non-shootout season in MLS history.

2011 may be over, but the fruits of this season will extend into years to come. CONCACAF Champions League knockouts start in early March. Players that entered the season with low expectations create deeper roster competition than Seattle has had yet. The Academy will continue to put out talent. In North America's shortest off-season there is plenty yet to come.

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Props to the two USL Sounders

They provided a lot of the hustle and heart that made the furious attacks possible. Not too mention some dangerous balls forward from both.

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by Dizzo on Nov 3, 2011 8:26 AM PDT reply actions  

What would you have the Sounder do, Dave?
Sounders players fell into their trap of worrying about referees more than opponents.

Yes, Marrufo was allowing a physical (some might even say “scrappy”) game, but the man wasn’t opposed to handing out yellow cards either. With ten men the odds to pull off an epic win would have been even less.

by n8ro on Nov 3, 2011 8:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Focus on the ball, the opponents and your teammates

It’s easier to score when you have the ball at your feet than when you are yelling at the ref after a decision that didn’t go your way.

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by Dave Clark on Nov 3, 2011 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Sure, I'm not debating that.

But at 61% possesion, and from the stands that figure seems a little low, pretty much they had the ball at their feet for a significant portion of the game.

by n8ro on Nov 3, 2011 8:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sure, but Opta doesn't track "neutral" possession

so when a player is yelling at a ref it counts as possession for one of the teams. If said player is a Sounder after they are called for a foul RSL gets credit for possession during that time.

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by Dave Clark on Nov 3, 2011 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting. I did not know that about Opta.

However, both teams were guilty of “yelling at the ref”, which would skew Opta’s stats universally. That doesn’t really make your point.

by n8ro on Nov 3, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

So both teams were wrong

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by Dave Clark on Nov 3, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Question

With both Friberg and Montero on the field, why on earth is Fucito taking corners?

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by B-Lot tailgater on Nov 3, 2011 8:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Montero isn't great at corners

And both are more dangerous in the air. At least that’s my theory. I would have liked Friberg to take a couple

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by Dizzo on Nov 3, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Parke's other headed shot

was from a Friberg corner

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by Dave Clark on Nov 3, 2011 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Because the team learned that inswingers are better than outswingers

So they shifted to a left footed taker from that one side. One of Parke’s headed shots was from a Fucito corner.

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by Dave Clark on Nov 3, 2011 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wahl

who didn’t play.

Fucito’s corners weren’t a failure last night.

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by Dave Clark on Nov 3, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lost a lot of respect for RSL

Other quick thoughts:

- After much hype of RSL not parking the bus and pressing offensively, they sure parked the bus. And kept making the bus bigger.
- Never seen such terrible thugball being played. Last night made Colorado look like they play nice
- Rimando’s finger to the crowd was shameful
- Will Johnson is one of the dirtiest players I’ve ever seen. Glad he’s Canadian so I don’t ever have to root for him
- Timewasting from the first minute was ridiculous
- RSL appear to be the dive kings of the league now. Absolutely shameful.
- Beltran’s header to save the goal was incredible
- Keller’s save on Espindola’s shot was incredible
- I full agree where a perfect game was needed, we only played a great game
- The rest of the night my mind was filled with “what ifs” – what if Grabavoy hadn’t scored that third? What if Saborio’s first was called offside? What if Beltran hadn’t been in that exact perfect spot? What if our first goal counted?
- We should have had 10 ambulances ready the way RSL players were flying around and screaming in pain on the ground.
- I hope Evans and Fernandez get healed up and fit quickly, we’ve got CCL to stay sharp for

by chrisperry1983 on Nov 3, 2011 9:39 AM PDT reply actions  

He did indeed

As best he could with the big fat keeper gloves, but it was clear enough. Right after the final whistle.

by kadjar on Nov 3, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought it was more of a "Come at me bro" gesture

rather than flipping off, but I was on the other side of the field.

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by B-Lot tailgater on Nov 3, 2011 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you're right

I am on the North End. I don’t think he flipped us off.

by csh on Nov 3, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

I take that as a compliment...

…to the ability of the Sounder’s fans to get in a player’s head.

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by Dizzo on Nov 3, 2011 11:05 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I too lost a lot of respect for RSL

I thought they were one of the good teams that played the game right. Espindola and Morales were embarassments last night and Will Johnson is the biggest douche in the league.

"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."

by DarthGreedo on Nov 3, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I didn't

Because you can’t lose what you didn’t have.

Okay, that’s a bit of an exaggeration, but they played exactly how I expected them to play.

by CarlosT on Nov 3, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

This

I’ll be perfectly honest, I didn’t care one bit about MLS until the Sounders were in. I had it in my head that the level of play in MLS was sub par and as a result had no respect for it. I also knew that when the Sounders joined MLS I would be all in for them. The result has been that I love the Sounders with all my heart and I pretty much hate every other team. Ok hate is a strong word, but you get what I’m saying, I don’t care for them one bit. So I can’t lose respect for any team in MLS, they can just prove me right and RSL did that last night. A sad display of diving, time wasting, trash soccer.

Recessionproof since 2009.

by 253Sounder on Nov 3, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

RSL didn't gain or lose respect in my book

They did exactly what should be expected of a team that has a monster lead going into a hostile environment:

-Play hard and rough to disrupt things.
-Bunker in and look for your 2-3 counter attack opportunities per half.
-Fall to the ground and take forever to get up.

Morales’ agonizingly slow strolls over to take corners was really the only tactic that was above and beyond what would be expected in this situation I feel. I think we were also spared a lot of over the top time killing when Rimando picked up the yellow early in the second half, so he knew better than to milk-it for the rest of the night.

We are fooling ourselves if we don’t think Montero would pull the same sh*t if we had the lead in the second leg. It is what it is.

by eco-geek on Nov 3, 2011 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

Had Marrufo given Morales a yellow...

…for clearly delaying the restart on an obvious ceremonial free kick coming off of Montero’s injury in the first half, he could have prevented Friberg from shoving Morales and could have potentially kept Morales from delaying subsequently. That seemed like a real missed opportunity to control a game where it was clear one side would do everything in its power to delay.

And yes, Montero would have done essentially the same. Riley also plays the time-wasting game on throw-ins (hmmm…where’s the ball? Wait, I’m not in the right position? Okay, over there? You’re sure? Now where did all my teammates go? surveys the field I suppose I really should throw this in at some point…) That’s where I think it is incumbent upon the official to keep the game moving. If they really made it a point to actually award yellow cards for delay of restart and other various time-wasting, I think we’d see less of it, or at least teams would suffer a lot more suspensions from yellow card accumulation.

by ubelmann on Nov 3, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I respect winning.

That is the point of playing the games, is it not?

by Steen on Nov 3, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

If ratings and gate is any indication...

Winning and entertaining are synonymous. I think it’s a rare instance where a pro franchise can be successful long term without winning. I’m not saying my team needs to win the title every year to be entertaining, but first round playoff exits are not entertaining. Especially when the expecations created after such a wonderful reg season are factored in.

by Steen on Nov 3, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Javier Morales was especially despicable.

Falling down like a geriatric and then crying for a foul. Not much sportsmanship in that guy.

by Menthu Ra on Nov 3, 2011 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I HATED him last night

What a little prick. RSL seemed like an all-round dirty team last night, and not because of the expected bunkering, defense-packing, time-wasting, etc. but because of the fouling and the diving.

by Fnarf on Nov 3, 2011 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

In what ways were the Sounders distracted by Marrufo?

I’ve been critical of their ref hounding in the past, but I didn’t notice that happening at all at the game. Saturday, sure, they got worried about that offside call (which was called correctly), but overall I thought RSL was more distracted by the officials than the Sounders were.

by ubelmann on Nov 3, 2011 9:52 AM PDT reply actions  

I think they were more disctracted by the terrible West side AR.

He missed 3 or 4 obvoious offsides calls on Espindola. None of them led to very dangerous chances but it did make the entire defense waste time and energy chasing the ball down.

"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."

by DarthGreedo on Nov 3, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes! Very much so agreed.

Especially in the second half. Disgraceful.

by n8ro on Nov 3, 2011 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I don't know what was up with him

I was calling him a geriatric because he was always way behind the play, only reason I could think he kept missing the offsides calls.

Recessionproof since 2009.

by 253Sounder on Nov 3, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the referees won't enforce the rules

Then it might be worth the Sounders effort to get bigger and meaner on defense and enforce things themselves. I’d like the thugs of the league, and their coaches, to know that if you pound our speed and finesse players you’ll be getting payback. I am so tired of watching our guys get pounded these last three years and not retaliate in a meaningful way. Are we still the most-fouled team in MLS like we were in 2009 and 2010? Sure seems like it. Last night we are up against a team of big boys and had really onl’y Alonso and Scott to bring the lumber, maybe Hurtado and Parke sometimes. I really like how Sigi coaches to win positively and to play above the noise of the physical attacks, and if the damn league and damn refs would protect us, I’d much prefer to see our style of play than the usual MLS dirtball tackle antics. But the fact is, we’re in MLS. We need options to enforce the safety of our front line stars. I’d like to see us get 2-3 big mean dirty back line players, and the next time some asshat lays the lumber on Montero or Rosales and there’s no call, I want them to know there’s pain coming.

What other options do we have? Keep getting shoved off the ball by guys 50 lbs heavier, keep being scythed down in open pitch from behind and no call? Its been a definite theme these past 3 years.

I definitely lost respect for SLC, I thought they were a skills based team. They can be, but they showed another side of themselves last night: the dirty tackling, stomp you to the turf side. If thats the way this league is, we need to get bigger and meaner ourselves.

Great match last night. Great season. Heroic effort by our boys. Every year we get better, every year we answer most of the questions put to this team. Sounders forever.

by luckystriker on Nov 3, 2011 10:05 AM PDT reply actions  

Unfortunately the stat is pretty meaningless

Not all fouls are equal, and what is a foul to one ref isn’t to another.

by Derek R on Nov 3, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's meaningless at all.

The Sounders have suffered some overly aggressive play this season but they are capable of giving as good as they get and quite often do.

by Aaron Campeau on Nov 3, 2011 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alonso is not shy from laying on the lumber nor most of the defenders

Then again, the way that RSL came flying for everyone’s ankles the first 15 minutes, I am not surprised that two players went off due to injury.

Montero was obviously affected on the sitter he missed at the 10ish minute mark. Evans went off not long after being cleated (and our favorite ESPN color man missed it and said that nothing was wrong with the challenge) in the calf/shin and then tackled in the ankle.

by CMC_Stags on Nov 3, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not meaningless...

…but also not especially instructive. Comparing card counts is difficult, too, as some cards are for delaying a restart and other cards are for physical challenges. The counts also need to be adjusted in some way for time of possession. This, I would admit, is probably a mark against the Sounders, since they tend to have good possession, and players rarely foul when they are in possession of the ball. Another thing that would be good to keep track of is advantage calls. How often have the Sounders suffered a foul only to have advantage called? (This is an area where I think refs seem to err too much on the side of playing advantage, IMO.)

My intuition says that if you took all these factors into account, you’d get a different picture than what the raw stats tell us. I agree that the Sounders know how to be physical, but I don’t know that we have any great statistical tools for putting this into perspective.

by ubelmann on Nov 3, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don't think its just confirmation bias.

We lost Fernandez, Evans, and had already lost Rosales to deliberate physical play injuries. Montero, they beat on as usual. If we’re kicking and hacking other teams and putting them out of the game as a result, I haven’t noticed it. Olave hurt himself, trying to stomp Ochoa last saturday.

by luckystriker on Nov 3, 2011 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

From where I was at it really looked bad with Johnson and Evans

It looked like Johnson straight kicked his legs and swept his feet out from under him. I didn’t see Flaco get hurt because Evans had been hacked down at the same time, on the other side of the field, happened to be at the same time. I wondered all night what happened to him, I guess I’m relieved it wasn’t more dirty play.

by chrisperry1983 on Nov 3, 2011 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

From the replay....

I saw Johnson go studs first right through Brad Evans foot on a ball that I think was simply called out of bounds.

Personally I think the referee probably needed to pull a card out in the first half to set a better tone of the game. If that first minute slide tackle on Montero was cautioned I wonder if it would have helped prevent the game from getting so chippy and maybe protect a few of our players from needing to get subbed out so soon. I think it was a problem in the end to not have Evans on the field when Friberg was clearly out of gas. Like Stags was saying earlier, those first 15 minutes saw some pretty reckless or hard tackles from RSL. I think those going without a caution not only contributed to Evans injury, but the general tone of the game and what would be allowed. I know Seattle can dish it too, but in this game we were more reactionary in that regard.

But really we shouldn’t have played so shitty in Salt Lake.

-Ben R.

by reesebw on Nov 3, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

This

You don’t defeat a bully by folding up in yourself. You defeat him by knocking his teeth out of his jaw (figuratively).

by joesz on Nov 3, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sounders greater than or equal to

I didn’t necessarily believe we were the better team going into this game. Now I believe. Wtih most key players healthy, I don’t think there’s any MLS team we can’t beat.

by csh on Nov 3, 2011 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

That sounds like every losers claim.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts we’d all have a Merry Christmas.

by Steen on Nov 3, 2011 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Meaningless stat

That and a dollar will buy you a Snickers.

by CarlosT on Nov 4, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

If you don't like Playoffs

how can you not like wins?

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by Dave Clark on Nov 4, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

ha!

says the guy who doesn’t care about playoffs. Nice.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Nov 4, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

See above

I don’t like playoffs because they render the vast majority of the season meaningless. People say that without playoffs our last two games would have meant nothing. With playoffs, our 34 game MLS season means nothing.

by CarlosT on Nov 7, 2011 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

No, really

I am a pragmatist to the core. Note I said most key players, not all.

by csh on Nov 4, 2011 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

If I told you before the season that the Sounders would be playing Scott, Levesque, and Neagle for most of a conference semi

And that Zakuani, our amazing new international player who came from Ajax and River Plate, Alvaro Fernandez, OBW, and Evans would miss the match due to injury, would you have given the team a chance?

To echo MC Jake’s post from Sunday, I’ve very proud of what the team accomplished this year. I am sad to see them fall short of their 3 major trophy quest, but am excited for the chase for 4 next year.

Here’s hoping that LAG can win the MLS Cup so that the Sounders (hopefully) get the 2nd automatic slot into the CCL next year.

by CMC_Stags on Nov 3, 2011 11:10 AM PDT reply actions  

Don't forget that before the season, we also thought Nkufo would have been playing

I think the team was well-constructed to deal with losses and participate in multiple competitions. We laid an egg in an important game last Saturday, but the Sounders were still a great team this year.

by ubelmann on Nov 3, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

In the silver lining part of the world

I’m looking forward to a fit Ochoa, Fucito, Montero, and possibly OBW being back in the forward rotation next year. With Zakuani, Rosales, and Neagle as wingers, Fernandez as an outside Mid and Evans/Friberg as Central mids the attack will be in good, young, experienced hands. And yes, I know that the team is likely to lose one of the above players in an expansion draft.

by CMC_Stags on Nov 3, 2011 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

In my above post

I neglected to say that I had a blast and that although we were eliminated, I was proud and excited the way they went down. Clean sheet, 2-0 win, electric atmosphere…it was a great game.

by chrisperry1983 on Nov 3, 2011 12:04 PM PDT reply actions  

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