Sounders Face Santos Laguna In CONCACAF Champions League Quarterfinals
By losing the round 6 match to CF Monterrey Rayados the Seattle Sounders put themselves into circumstances where they could only face a Group Stage winner. Today's draw has Seattle hosting Santos Laguna in the two leg aggregate series (away goal rule) of the CONCACAF Champions League Quarterfinals.. In this year's prelims and group stage Santos was clearly the best team. In the Prelims they beat Olimipia of Honduras 4-3 and then rolled in the Group Stage to a 4-1-1 +10 record that includes crushing second in their group Metapan.
Santos enters the Mexican League Playoffs as the 4th seed after posting an 8-6-3 +4 record. They struggled early and late in the season, oddly doing best when double booked with CCL matches. Oribe Peralta has 14 goals in the Apertura and CCL combined in just a half year. Their second half season starts in January, so unlike the Sounders they will be an in-form club.
Sounders Coach Sigi Schmid yesterday indicated that the CCL will force Seattle players to get fit quicker, get ready to win earlier;
Obviously we know we have something very important at play right at the beginning of the year because we’re coming back into CONCACAF quarterfinal play. We know that begins before the regular season begins so there’s a little more urgency in terms of coming in fit into preseason. As I told the guys, normally you look to be about 75 minutes fit going into your first regular season MLS game—everybody sort of at the same stage. But now going into a CONCACAF game you’re playing against teams that are playing and playing rhythm that are 90 minutes fit, so we have to be 90 minutes fit. That means better preparation in the off-season and a little alteration in how we go through our training regimen in preseason.
Pre-season matches like the Cascadia Summit and Community Shield will either be earlier or bypassed for Seattle to prepare best to win the most important trophy they can get in 2012.
Kevin McCauley, of SBN Soccer and FMF State of Mind, gives us this snapshot of the Saints;
Santos has a history of playing their backups in the CONCACAF Champions League group stage, but expect them to take the knockout stages seriously and play a first team. Head Coach Benjamin Galindo has completely turned the Saints around from where they were in the beginning of the 2011 Apertura, getting them into Liguilla despite a bad start. Striker Oribe Peralta is their best player and is now the clear No. 2 Mexican national team striker behind Chicharito. Quick striker Darwin Quintero, defensive midfielder Juan Rodriguez and central defender Felipe Baloy are their other stars.
Other quarterfinals matches have the Los Angeles Galaxy facing Toronto FC with the winner facing the winner of Sounders v Santos. If Seattle pulls another upset of a Mexican side they would be well positioned to follow Real Salt Lake into a CONCACAF Champions League Final. Winning the CCL sends a club to the Club World Cup with a minimum payout in the millions. Seattle would host the second leg in the semis and Finals.
The first leg will be hosted by Seattle between March 6th and 8th. The second leg will be between the 13th and 15th. FoxSoccer will carry the games.
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I wonder what Vegas
odds are going to be. It looks like a tough draw.
Yea
its a tough draw but hard to say what the results would be given what potential changes to Seattle’s starting XI could happen as well as being Seattle’s first competitive match of the year.
It's difficult to assess our chances in a series that happens four months from now
I think we’ll see some player movement this offseason, and there’s still a vacant DP slot, not to mention our vacant GK1 spot, so who knows. I’m kind of happy we didn’t get LAG, just because one of the attractions of the CCL for me is that we get to play new and different teams.
Payoff in the millions
Dave, is that just for the clubs? Do you know what kind of comensation the players would get?
I don't know what part of that payout goes to the clubs
and what to the players
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How?
They don’t do it for the Open Cup
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That's a national tournament, though
It’s highly unlikely, still…
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Nov 8, 2011 8:12 PM PST up reply actions
There's still Toronto
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by Dave Clark on Nov 8, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We couldn't have gotten Toronto
Because they also finished second. We could only have gotten UNAM, Galaxy, or Santos.
My point is that there are easy teams left
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And Metapan as well
Goes to show how important winning the group could have been.
Well, 3 of four teams on our side of the bracket are MLS teams, so there is a better than average chance that an MLS team ends up in the final.
...if you're going on straight-up probability, yes...
But the odds are probably in Santos’ favor.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Nov 8, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Compound probabilities are tricky things
Say you think Santos is so much better than the American teams that they have a 75% chance to beat the Sounders and a 75% chance of beating Toronto/LAG. This makes them a considerable favorite to advance in either individual series, but makes them only slight favorites (56%) to reach the final.
Santos Laguna lost 1-5 agg in the quaterfinals of the last CCL
vs Cruz Azul…if that makes anybody feel any better…
by hormd on Nov 8, 2011 1:51 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
Very tough, but exciting, draw
I am stoked to see them face the Sounders in Seattle.
I miss *REAL* Four Loko
I'm excited
Tough draw and all. A new rivalry! One of my favorite parts of being in the CCL is developing a history playing other great clubs.
Only possible if we get to the final
but wouldn’t that be an epic matchup!
by AAAA on Nov 9, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I hope we can get the squad ready in time
I would love it if the Sounders could be the first MLS team to win the CONCACAF Champions League since it’s gone to this format. The rest of the season would be gravy after that.
by CarlosT on Nov 8, 2011 6:44 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Im excited
It should be a good test. Santos is a good team. I wish we would sign Quintero from them, not that he could play against them (cap tied). From what I have seen he is a fantastic colombian player with pace. He’d fit right in up front with Fredy. Im also excited for our home leg which should be rocking. There should be a good away crowd and hopefully we can sell enough to open up the whole thing.

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