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So let's start talking about 3rd kits

The FAA were obligated to realease a "Notice to Airmen" whenever the Sounders would don "Electricity" for a match.


So if there is one thing I learned last night at the end-of-year Alliance "Business" meeting it is that it apparently takes two years for adidas to scour the globe to look for the most hideous color combinations of highlighter shades to use in our 3rd kits... well, that and the fact that the Sounder training staff doesn't give "happy endings" and Drew Carey likes pain killers (but who doesn't?).

What's really telling is that Joe Roth apparently has never heard of the wish amongst fans to vote on third kits, even though I seem to recall the very same subject of ugly kits came up at last year's meeting (and it is worth noting Mr. Roth repeated the same David Stern anecdote near the beginning of his podium time). In fact, whining about the awful 3rd kits started about 3 seconds after the "Electricity" bomb was dropped on us...

Well, alrighty then... so I guess this means it is time to commence dialogue about what we want to see with our third kits. Times a wasting, those pesky Portland-based adidas folks have surely already started collecting data on visually offensive pastel color combinations (I'm hearing pink "bra straps" is the opening-line favorite)

Poll
What would you like to see in our next "3rd kit"
Don't really care, just don't make it ugly!
101 votes
Go nuts! The brighter and uglier the better!
174 votes
Just stay on palette... please...
102 votes
Throwback!
356 votes

733 votes | Poll has closed

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If we do a white throwback kit it should be our away kit

not our third kit. I think the third kit should always be something a bit more extreme and out there. If we had our way I don’t think anyone would have picked Electricity, but we all came around to liking it. I think this recent third kit is the same way. I hope to pick up the cyan sometime soon.

Would it be possible to do a throwback kit just for Cascadia or Heritiage Cup matches?

-Ben R.

by reesebw on Dec 14, 2011 10:06 AM PST reply actions  

Yeah, that would be sweet

I’d love to have a rivalry colors jersey. Something I could wear on the road to away matches in PDX and BC.

by blakec on Dec 14, 2011 10:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought our third kit

was for use for matches that were not MLS. That’s not Cascadia.

-Ben R.

by reesebw on Dec 14, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Not all the time

We wore Electricty at PDX last year.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Dec 14, 2011 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

disagree.

The reasons you see a lot of white kits are A) they are pretty much guaranteed to not conflict with the other team’s kit (assuming it’s colored) and B) white is classic.

I hate the cyan, even more than I hated the electricity. They are GIMMICK colors. It would be one thing if either of them were actually in our color palette, but they’re not. They’re not a nod to the past, or anything. They are shocking just for the purpose of being shocking.

That’s bush league. Our Club should be above that.

We have three colors- the bright rave green, the classic blue, and the charcoal grey. That should be where our kits come from. A throwback or retro-influenced kit is cool, too, but a true throwback should just be for a single game/event, IMO.

Portland’s 3rd kit is terrific. It’s classy.

White might strike one as boring but the touches- using the old-school font for Alaska, this new retro logo with the heavy influence of their old logo- those are great touches.

I would love to see our kits rarely, if ever, change. You want to build an international brand? The Yankees are everywhere- I’ve seen Yankees stuff in backwater southern China and Peru, Thailand and Germany.

And they haven’t changed their unis in any significant way in decades. They are classic and recognizable.

We have the color. Let’s make our kits classic, cool, and quit trying to grab attention for our kit color choices and start grabbing attention through continued and massive success on the field.

by Blue Eyed Buddhist on Dec 14, 2011 9:40 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Portland's third kit is boring

and doesn’t satisfy CONCACAF requirements as a kit to be brought with them.

Inserting a Kit v Success on field comment is silly. This isn’t an either/or

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by Dave Clark on Dec 15, 2011 8:57 AM PST up reply actions  

CONCACAF requirements?

Maybe I’ve missed something, but I have no idea what CONCACAF requirement they would not satisfy. Enlighten me?

by AAAA on Dec 15, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

There are a few clubs where a ref could say

that they do not have two uniforms that conflict with the home team.

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by Dave Clark on Dec 16, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions  

when we played at Monterrey last summer

I was flabbergasted we were allowed to wear shale in what was an obvious color conflict… makes me wonder how well-enforced the rule is

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 16, 2011 3:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Could you clarify your CONCACAF interpretation?

This link:

http://www.concacaf.com/staticFiles/7b/72/0,,12813~160379,00.pdf

lists the kit requirements on page 30, and summarized below:

11.2 Uniform Colors
a. The teams must communicate their preferred uniform colors to CONCACAF prior to the start of the CCL season and on a date determined by CONCACAF.
b. CONCACAF will determine and inform the clubs and Match Commissioner of the Uniform Colors to be used by both teams and their goalkeepers and the match officials and inform them no later than the week of the match.
c. The visiting team must, in any case, bring two sets of uniforms to the stadium that do not conflict with the home team’s uniform.
d. If the Referee determines that a change needs to be made they will consult with CONCACAF on the changes and then advise the teams accordingly.
e. The home team shall have its alternate uniform available in case of a conflict as determined by the referees. Each team shall have at least two uniforms of different color for their goalkeepers which do not conflict with the team uniform colors.

I think between red, green and white they’d have two unifrom combinations that would not conflict with the home team.

by ledjom on Dec 15, 2011 12:45 PM PST up reply actions  

If the home team is Santos Laguna

They wouldn’t have two.

Santas uses a green and white top.

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by Dave Clark on Dec 16, 2011 2:23 PM PST up reply actions  

A similar situation could happen with the Sounders

For example, if the home team’s primary was a green and black.

And considering the similarity of the Sounders and Monterrey kits in the away match in Monterrey (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NDtkWTTWds), CONCACAF seems to have a liberal definition for “does not conflict”.

by AAAA on Dec 16, 2011 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

shale?

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 16, 2011 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting take

Most would say that rave green was chosen just for the sake of being shocking.

I miss *REAL* Four Loko

by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 15, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

The only problem i have with a throwback is it would be white

Almost every team has a white jersey. I like that Seattle is going for something differant with their color scheme… maybe just dial back the Highlighter yellow a bit…

"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."

by DarthGreedo on Dec 14, 2011 10:10 AM PST reply actions  

you beat me to it :-)

look at that! it’s even adidas!

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 14, 2011 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

If it weren't for the yellow armpits on the Super Cyan jerseys

we would almost have this… I love the blue on the new 3rd kits, but the yellow looks like sweat stains…

"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."

by DarthGreedo on Dec 14, 2011 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I want a pink kit

I really dig Juventus’ away kit this year. I think the 3rd kit should be a departure from the Home/Away kits. I have been totally okay with the last 2 kits though. I love how we troll the entire league with our jerseys. Its kind of our thing.

by Colin Johnson on Dec 14, 2011 10:19 AM PST reply actions  

purple

I would like the xbox kinect purple, then you can still use rave green & electricity as accents.
I don’t mind the Super Cyan, just don’t like collars.
Isn’t Portland doing a “throwback?” Do we really want to look like we’re copying them? Though, it would be cool if all Heritage Cup teams wore throwbacks in head-to-head match-ups

by Travis_Mc on Dec 14, 2011 10:26 AM PST reply actions  

I was hoping for a purple one as well.

I thought i heard rumors a purple one was in the works. Too bad that didn’t happen.

"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."

by DarthGreedo on Dec 14, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I like purple

But do you risk alienating Cougars?

by Targaff on Dec 14, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah I hate the purple

I wouldnt mind seeing more blue, less rave green (not saying i dont like the rave green though)

@korbm13

by korb M coug on Dec 14, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

It's a jersey

If there are any Cougars who become alienated by the color purple they might as well cheer for Portland as they at least wear red.

Go banana!

by Disco_Stew on Dec 14, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

haha...

I made this as what I thought would be interpreted as an obvious fake “leaked pic” of the 3rd kits. haha, love that you posted it on here

by Shane Waletzko on Dec 14, 2011 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

That wouldn't alienate me as a Coug

It would alienate me as someone who thinks that would look god awful.

Did you steal that design from Edmonds Woodway High School?

I miss *REAL* Four Loko

by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 15, 2011 8:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't mind the cyan, actually

I do have one request if we ever go with a retro jersey though: let’s not do it just to make people happy. Let’s tie it some kind of anniversary so there’s some semblance of meaning.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Dec 14, 2011 10:31 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

oops

hit “post” before entering my statement…
isn’t the entire objective of even existing in the first place to “make people happy”? What higher calling is there when it comes to sports?

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 14, 2011 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

just picture it

Twenty years from now, “Electricity” would make an awesome retro kit. Briight, ugly and retro. Everyone is happy!

by PeterJH on Dec 14, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You're missing my point

I’m saying it would be a waste to do it for the sole purpose of quieting critics. I’d want there to be a larger purpose to it that gives it some significance. Are you saying we should permanently have a retro kit?

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Dec 14, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

perfect

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Dec 14, 2011 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I've been bummed by the early push for a throwback

…because I hope this team is around for many, many, years, and I don’t want to use up the idea too soon. On the other hand, I don’t feel like the 40th anniversary would be a waste; I like the timing. Have there been enough decent kits over the years to introduce a new throwback every 6-8 years? How deep is the well?

by asimismo on Dec 15, 2011 12:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I've always been partial to the warm up jerseys

I slight change on that theme would make an excellent white jersey.

by blakec on Dec 14, 2011 10:36 AM PST reply actions  

I would consider that "on palette"

it’s white, but in my mind white is always a part of the palette by default

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 14, 2011 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

And I realize it's wrong sport and all but

Nice tribute to the Huskies without doing a straight purple jersey (not that I’m against a purple jersey)

by blakec on Dec 14, 2011 10:44 AM PST reply actions  

Other than gifting a win in the Apple Cup every year? Boom!

Boo! Tomorrow AM. I want all things now!

by Perrinbar on Dec 14, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

As a Wildcat and now currently a Bulldog

A little piece of me will always wish I went to UW or WSU just so I could have a fierce, high profile rivalry. I don’t think Western even has Football anymore. And I don’t even know who Gonzaga’s rivals are… St Mary’s, or something?

by chrisperry1983 on Dec 14, 2011 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

lol

Leave it to Zag fans to think college basketball was invented in 1998.

I miss *REAL* Four Loko

by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 15, 2011 8:37 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

lol

Leave it to Huskies fans to think that he was making a comment about the entire history of the series.

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 16, 2011 7:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah

I’m not a Husky fan

I miss *REAL* Four Loko

by B-Lot tailgater on Dec 16, 2011 8:49 AM PST up reply actions  

FYI I don't actively dislike the Huskies

I’d rather they do well then, say, St. Mary’s.

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 16, 2011 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Football died at Western

but we used to play their rugby team in college, as far as I know it’s still going strong. I partied with them once, they’re good guys.

Recessionproof since 2009.

by 253Sounder on Dec 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

On principal

I’d be against any tribute to a college team.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Dec 14, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

no one is asking you to care

The great thing about our democracy is you are not forced to participate. What I object to is being labeled a “whiner” because I would like to participate in democracy. Furthermore, I, of all people, understand the “ugly but cool” concept. The kits ARE ugly, nonetheless some people still think they are “cool.” I would assume people understand this nuance.

As for “get over it,” I am glad you are content to accept whatever the “marketing geniuses” at work with adidas/Sounders shove down our throats. So did you vote for “Republic” “Alliance”, or “F.C.”?!

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 14, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions   2 recs

Does it matter

if the council or adidas “shoves it down our throats?” And where’s the shoving? A cool kit is a cool kit whether it comes from the council or Adidas marketing.

Also I for one do not find the new kits ugly and think they are cool.

Also, why are you objecting to being called a whiner? You just said everyone whined about the 3rd kit in your original post when the electricity kit bomb was dropped on “us.” I assume that “us” includes you being involved in the act of whining.

But I agree with Adam, the poll is very leading and telling of your opinions.

-Ben R.

by reesebw on Dec 14, 2011 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

hmmmm

so you don’t see the obvious difference between the Council – which serves as a democratic body representing fans of Sounders F.C. – and adidas, a corporation whose motives may be far different from anything Sounders fans care about?

As for “whining”, what I object to is being labeled a “whiner” because of my desire to see “democracy in sports” actually happen in some meaningful way; and I long ago proposed voting on 3rd kits as such an opportunity, one that was quite enthusiastically endorsed by Joe Roth last night. This is subtly separate from the my whining about the 3rd kit designs.

I am also glad y’all appreciate the humor in my above post

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 14, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Ummm

Isn’t the council just creating a kit that they want to buy? Adidas just wants to sell kits. Do you think Adidas cares what the kits look like as long as it sells. They want to create a kit that consumers will choose to buy. And for our market they think something that stands out and is unique from the product line will do that. The kit submission context is a essentially a large focus group.

-Ben R.

by reesebw on Dec 14, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Council works as a representive group of the entire Alliance

while there are some individual agendas, most of us our more concerned with the success of the club then personal recognition.

And the details about how to manage Alliance input on the 2014 3rd kit are entirely unknown right now.

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by Dave Clark on Dec 14, 2011 2:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you complain

when a supreme court justice is appointed? Even in a democratic society some things the people just don’t have a say in. We are not given the option to vote on jerseys.

I liked electricity alot, I like aspects of the cyan kit but It has yet to fully win me over. But I’m not going to lose sleep over it. And I don’t believe design by committee is a good Idea unless you want the most middle of the road, uninspiring end product possible.

I have no Idea but I would bet that if the people had the option to vote on the team colors from the get go Rave Green would not be one of them. But I’d imagine there are very few people who would have it that way now. You win some you lose some. Resistance is futile.

by Adam Waltering on Dec 14, 2011 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

There will be significant public input on the 3rd kit in the future

Joe Roth and Gary Wright made that clear last night.

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and/or

by Dave Clark on Dec 14, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

ummmm

okay, I really have no idea what argument you are making here…
I’m not sure where “design by committee” is being actively discussed. What is being discussed is an idea which, as Dave points out, has been endorsed by club ownership and management.

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 14, 2011 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

You have no Idea what I'm arguing?

I’m arguing the fact that YOU DON’T HAVE A SAY IN THE DESIGN OF THE 3RD KIT! Your argument above about ADIDAS not having the same interest as the fans is absurd. They’re a clothing company who caters to fans in order to make money. If ADIDAS felt this design wouldn’t make money (and they have marketing teams who’s job it is to find out) they wouldn’t put it out.

by Adam Waltering on Dec 14, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

okay, let me give you one example

Sounders fans may be interested in honoring the 40th anniversary of the start of the NASL Sounders by launching a throwback (as discussed in these comments). I’m not sure adidas has the same motivations; however, we could make that clear to adidas by using “democracy in sports” to voice our opinion.

I am struggling to understand what you have against following through on the “democracy in sports” idea by voting on 3rd kits – an idea that was approved of last night by Joe Roth and Gary Wright.

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 14, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Is this an edgy versus safe debate?

I mean if you want safe you could look at the 3rd kit for Portland, which is a boring but safe throwback.
Personally I think looking at the international stage for inspiration has always been the MO not domestic nostaglia. Would I buy a retro 70s White or Blue Sounder Kit? Yes with the short shorts.

Nos audietis in somniis, Nos audietis in altum: You will hear us!

by chrisso on Dec 14, 2011 10:48 AM PST reply actions  

What is the definition of a throwback?

In my book, it is the exact same jersey that was formerly warn. Darth Greedo’s would be perfect because it’s Adidas.

If we deviate from Adidias and make one that looks vintage, it should be as accurate as possible. The key is to have one of the old Sounder Logos.

by NateFrom120 on Dec 14, 2011 10:51 AM PST reply actions  

Electricity

Was just fine; I’d take it over, say, Barca salmon any day. Cyan? Not so much…

I’m pretty sick of all this hankering after retro kits, it crops up almost as much as grass surfaces. They’re almost universally godawful and serve only to hark back to a day when kits looked bad because that was as good as they could look. The Sounders are old, whoop-di-do! Better to dare to be different and do something that shows that we’re a forward looking team than one that wallows in past glories.

by Targaff on Dec 14, 2011 10:53 AM PST reply actions   2 recs

I ultimately liked the electricity jerseys.

But I really think there is a place for a modernized throwback if you will. Like the one above.

by SoundersForever on Dec 14, 2011 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

I'm a big fan of obnoxious colors.

Highlighter colors in particular are a favorite. They just killed it with the collar. I have a few jerseys with collars and they stay pushed to the back of the closet.

by PlasticRory on Dec 14, 2011 11:06 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Good idea

And it can drive advertising revenue on the team’s website by generating a crap-ton more traffic.

by bmvaughn on Dec 14, 2011 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

This was given a mention last night by the front office

And will be fiercely pursued over the next couple months by Council. Some of the lead time is related to design, some to production, but we will be working on this. It’s already on our next meeting schedule.

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Sounder At Heart

by Dave Clark on Dec 14, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

But seriously, the thing I think here that would make the idea magical for the fans is the design submission AND the voting. It would truly be the Fan’s Kit, then. Designed by fans, chosen by fans, and — heh — carrying the name in some tiny discreet stitching or decal of one lucky fan.

by joesz on Dec 14, 2011 4:32 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Throwbacks in 2014

For the 40th anny. It would be a killer marketing opportunity for the club and they would sell a lot of shirts. I would actually rather them be the alternate uniform and have a brighter third. Plus, if they are the 2d, we can use them in Cascadia games.

by @Thomas513 on Dec 14, 2011 12:49 PM PST reply actions  

The Uglier the Better!

Reminds me of my days of playing youth soccer in Shoreline. Hillwood had those relatively classy gold and black uniforms. Our team decided to eschew tradition in favor of purple & white tops, green bottoms, and electric yellow socks. Needless to say (but I’ll type it anyway) they were the ugliest kits ever. We loved them.

by benihana on Dec 14, 2011 1:19 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

see

you get it… sometimes ugly is cool

so, the people objecting to my “bias”, as I type this, “retro” is running away with it; if you really believe I’m full of shit then vote for “ugly”. What is so insidious or complicated about that? I have no ability to rig the voting, you know ;-)

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 14, 2011 2:08 PM PST up reply actions  

To be fair...

Retro isn’t running away with anything as it is currently not getting 50 percent of the vote and the other three options could quite easily be seen as “proof” that something other than retro is preferable.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Dec 14, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions  

"retro" has maintained a 2-1+ margin over "ugly" since the poll opened.

“I don’t care” and “stay on palette” voters are voting against ugly (at least most of them can assumed to be). What is significant is that “bright and ugly” has less than 25% of overall support.

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 14, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

My point is this...

All this poll proves is that there’s a pretty wide spectrum of opinion and that Sounders fans have clearly resisted falling into any one camp.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Dec 14, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

sure

I acknowledge that, should we draw a Venn Diagram for the people ;-)

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 14, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions  

You're phasing the questions as value judgments.

It’s the literal definition of begging the question. And that’s fine so far as it goes, but you can’t pretend as though you don’t understand what people are talking about when they call you out on it.

by Aaron Campeau on Dec 14, 2011 6:26 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

it was primarily a humorous piece

I thought I went “over the top” enough to make that obvious. Apparently that was lost on some, either that or they are just going to contradictory for the sake of it, in which case I am more than happy to turn this into a Monty Python skit ;-)

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Dec 14, 2011 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to say that I like the Cyan color over the Electricity one

I think we should have 1 main color (obviously Rave Green) and maybe 1-2 secondary colors that stick on all the jerseys. I don’t want us to keep changing our secondary color to blue, to shale, to cyan, to whatever else every other year. You can do different designs with the same colors.

by majora999 on Dec 14, 2011 1:43 PM PST reply actions  

With fringe!

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and/or

by Dave Clark on Dec 14, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

As long as the shorts

are paisley and socks have polka dots.

-Ben R.

by reesebw on Dec 14, 2011 6:43 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

and when they run

the shorts should make that “wrr wrr wrr” rubbing sound

by PeterJH on Dec 14, 2011 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Look good, feel good, play good, impacts confidence

Translates to sports, business, leisure, everything, it’s not necessarily whether the majority of the people that see you think you look good, but whether you think you look good that counts, and that can impact confidence, regardless of how minor or how shallow that may seem, just look at the creamsicle Bucs.

I wish we knew what the players felt about Electricity and Super Cyan, but I can’t believe it’s not impacted by what we think, and I can’t believe it’s greatly dissimilar from what we think, though they may not say it as they’re toeing the company line to some degree, trying to promote the brand.

Someone needs to put a stop to the neon is what I think, and if we do have a throwback, it’s got to be somewhat modernized, which I would assume most would assume but I wouldn’t want to assume.

by Thalas on Dec 14, 2011 2:54 PM PST reply actions  

I can learn to love

anything they win in.
Curious if Barca fans had a hissy fit when the pink/salmon thirds were introduced.

by arjaylee54 on Dec 14, 2011 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

As long...

as it says XBOX Sounders on the chest and I can tell them from the other team, I am fine with whatever they want to do.

by bakerbri on Dec 16, 2011 12:05 AM PST reply actions  

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Chris Coulter (photos, academy)


Managers

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Nos Audietis Crew

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Authors

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Ravelry_logo_small Abbott Smith

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