Open Flavor Fridays: Why are winter beers so malty?
As always this is your open thread for the week to talk all things not quite Sounders &/or soccer related. The community guidelines still apply. Our entry to OFF-topic today is winter beer. I expect that those that imbibe have had a few already. I know I've been browsing from Brrrrr to Ebenezer to Snow Cap to Snow Day to who knows how many more. All share a certain trait - malt in the medium dark range.
Yes, they certainly tend towards spices as well. Most of the additives complimenting traditional Christmas desserts. Things like clove, nutmeg, cinnamon appear quite a bit. So maybe those additives and their brown notes (that's an actual flavor descriptor) guide towards the medium dark malt. Elysian 21st Ammendment (which I had at Elysian last night) does do a strong ale with the spices, but even darker.
What are your favorite winter beers and what else is on your mind?
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Tradition
In the days before refrigeration, ales were brewed in the Summer and then drunk in the Winter, while lagers were brewed in the winter to be drunk in the Summer. Malt forward ales were also used as a meal substitute. Some of the ales were also used during periods of fasting.
I imagine that the higher caloric content of some of the malt forward styles helped during the winter months as well. The lagers often were brewed to act as thirst quenchers.
Needless to say, as a malt guy I cannot wait until the winter months kick in and all my favorite seasonals start returning.
Alaska’s Baltic Porter is one of my all time favorite winter seasonals. It normally starts showing up around now. Another winter favorite is the Southern Tier Chocolate Black Water Imperial Stout which shows up close to Valentines day. If you want to try a true chocolate beer, this is one that is worthy of making into an ice cream float.
Have you had their Creme Brulee stout?
It basically is an ice cream float. So good.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 2, 2011 1:08 PM PST up reply actions
Oh yeah
The highlight of the summer releases for me is the Southern Tier Creme Brulee. And this year my local QFC has been carrying it for $6-7 a bottle. Want…..
Southern Tier's seasonals are the highlight of most seasons to me
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 2, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions
Crooked Line Labyrinth Black Ale
Licorice, bittersweet chocolate, aged on oak with an ABV of over 13%. Had a bad day. Not having a bad evening….
by Abbott Smith on Dec 2, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions
Non-malty winter beer:
Sierra Nevada Celebration, Fish Brewing Winterfish, Maritime Pacific Jolly Roger just off the top of my head. They’re all maltier than your typical IPA, but they’re hoppy beers first and foremost. I wish Winterfish was available year-round, because it’s an excellent IPA and one I would love to have in June.
As far as other winter beers, Anderson Valley Winter Solstice continues to be my favorite forever and always. 21st Amendement Fireside Chat is also quite good. Great Divide Hibernation is both delicious and dangerous as it’s a sneaky, sneaky 8.7% ABV. I’m really impressed by Snow Day, I think it’s a big step up from whatever New Belgium’s previous winter ale was.
I still haven’t had Anchor’s Christmas Ale yet this year, as for whatever reason it’s shot way up in price. It was $10 last year, now it’s $12-$14 depending on where you look. It bums me out that I haven’t had a chance to try it, but with so many other fantastic winter beers available, it’s just not worth the price.
In non-winter warmer beer, Left Hand’s latest Fade to Black limited release is out. This year it’s a pepper porter, and though it’s not something you’ll likely want to drink a lot of at once it’s both interesting and fantastic.
Hoppy winters
Great Divide and Anderson Valley always run to the hoppier side of things, so it doesn’t surprise me that you like them.
Another hoppy winter brew that you might enjoy is the Deschutes Abyss. It is the one beer on the market that I wish wasn’t so hoppy, because it could be amazing. But my loss might be your gain.
Most young Barley Wines are also pretty hoppy in their first year.
Neither of Winter Solstice or Hibernation are hoppy in the least
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 2, 2011 1:19 PM PST up reply actions
I'll try them
By the way, sneaky is Dogfish Worldwide Stout. Don’t let the small bottle fool you. The stuff inside packs an ABV of 20%. I remember having my first bottle with lunch on a Sunday afternoon and falling off the couch.
Great Divide Hibernation
One I discovered last year. I probably have to drive 20 minutes to find a liquor store that sells it, but it’ll be worth it.
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by ChestRockwell on Dec 2, 2011 1:34 PM PST up reply actions
I really agree with the Anderson Valley Winter Solstice \.
It has a fantastic balance of malt/carmel with a pleasing hop finish. Most winter brews are too strong (in ether direction) and I remember that Winter Solstice was one of my go-to seasonals a couple years ago.
Sports.
Sierra Nevada's Celebration Ale
along the same lines, when will we Sounders fans have some offseason news to celebrate…..the Rosales deal? a GK? something…
If my understanding of the MLS transfer window is right
… they can’t announce the Gspurning signing (if he ends up being the new GK) until 21 Jan, since he’s still under contract with Skoda Xanthi.
They can announce a deal
Similar to what they did with Blaise Nkufo. It is called a pre-contract agreement.
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Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout jumps immediately to mind
I have no idea if Brooklyn Breweries has anything available on the west coast, but if you find yourself between NYC and DC for some reason from October through January, you’ve really got to seek out their Black Chocolate Stout. It has plenty of coffee notes to go with the chocolate, and I’ve always felt it has a tiny bit of caramel to it. It’s pretty boozy (10% ABV) without going over the line and being too upfront about it.
The pub 2 blocks from my friend’s house recently started serving it on tap. He is successful in a lucrative career and has a side business that brings him plenty of joy, but I told him that having Black Chocolate Stout on tap within a couple hundred yards was the single thing I envied from his life.
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We don't get their stuff here and it really bums me out a lot.
by Aaron Campeau on Dec 2, 2011 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
That's a shame
Brooklyn hasn’t let me down yet.
Another good one from out here on the east coast is Heavy Seas Winter Storm, an ESB made just outside of Baltimore. The malt flavors – mostly toffee for me, but everyone else I know says they taste caramel instead – come up front, but it has a way of transitioning pleasantly from all malt to all hops in the finish. If you go to the right places around here, you can find it served out of casks, but the bottles are still plenty good.
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by ChestRockwell on Dec 2, 2011 1:31 PM PST up reply actions
Coldsmoke by Kettlehouse or Faceplant by Bayern Brewing
Both are Montana beers both will change your life
The Seattle Sounders are just reDQulous
Man, reading this thread makes me happy I'll be back in the states in three weeks.
I love my life where I am, but your average store where I am carries five beers, the best of which is comparable to something you’d buy in cans in the states. No American micros at all, and if you want something from Europe, there are only a couple stores where you can get them, at which you can expect to pay roughly $5 a bottle at the low end.
You do all the work for us, Honey Badger, and we'll just eat whatever you find.
As I crank into the Winterhook on a fine Friday...
The sneaky lawyer side of me has come out. Assuming a DP slot exists, how about SSFC get a high-powered ringer but just for the duration of the European season (May 2012) on a “semi-guaranteed” contract (loan) with the intent to primarily use them specifically for CCL knockout. The CCL finals conclude April 24. The Rules allow that we can waive a player at anytime and “Players on semi-guaranteed contracts can be waived prior to July 1 of any year and free up the corresponding budget space.” The DP Rules don’t include a special exclusion from this. There a lot of players out there that teams would love to loan out simply for the rest of the 2011-2 Euro season. This way, all the complaints about who would want to come “here,” turffield, etc. go out the window on a 3 month loan, and I would think we could afford anyone’s wages for that short of a period. MLS has done this before in reverse, e.g. Donovan. I really want us to go into CCL QF all out, guns-a-blazin’.
by Brougham Hooligan on Dec 2, 2011 2:19 PM PST reply actions
Wingman Brewers Stratafortress Belgian Strong Ale
Aged on rum soaked cedar planks. At 11.4% this one’ll warm you up in a hurry.
Recessionproof since 2009.
Btw, anyone going to Winterfest
today or tomorrow at Hale’s Ales in Fremont?
Recessionproof since 2009.
Tiny, tiny brewery
so for the moment, just on tap. Bottling should be a go in the near future and a tap room is in the works as well. HOWEVER, they will be serving this beer at Winter Fest tonight and Saturday…
Recessionproof since 2009.
Firestone-Walker..
…is one of my favorite breweries….
Firestone-Walker 15th Anniversary is amazing if you can find it. This brewery is known for barrel fermentation and aging. Every year the anniversary ale is a blend of several of their strong ales. This year it is about 85% barley wine, 10% Stout, 5% Imperial IPA.
http://www.firestonebeer.com/beers/products/fifteen-coming-fall-2011-
my favorites:
Far and away my favorite is Ninkasi’s Sleigh’r. After that I really like Jolly which is just awesome.
Sleigh'r is too hoppy for my taste
After last week’s post I went and picked up a Sleigh’r. Not bad, but too hoppy for me.
I wish South Dakota had better selection.
Sigh.
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Not sure how many other underagers are in the regular audience here...
What’s everyone’s favorite non-alcoholic winter drink? I’m fond of the classic hot chocolate myself, but I can be seen drinking the occasional apple cider during the colder months.
I met a possum.
I love spiced ciders
i don’t want anything like caramel added. Cloves, nutmeg, cinnamon, maybe a dash of lemon or lime. Low long simmer and not only does the house smell wonderful, but you’ve got a great warmer.
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Making cider sweeter is in general a bad idea
Fruit-based sugars I find don’t combine well with cane-based sugars. Cinnamon’s a personal favorite of mine in cider. I’ve never tried lemon or lime before, though. I’ll have to check it out.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Dec 2, 2011 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
that is some quality taste insight...
Especially from someone too young to drink. I guess that’s a sign of the times. When I was in my late teens and early 20s I didn’t know the difference between the sugar in fruits and cane sugar.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Dec 4, 2011 2:52 PM PST up reply actions
Diabetic and fruit juice are tough...
But I do like some of the sugar free things you can do with tea and cream or half and half. London fogs are a particular favorite in our house. Take a high quality Earl Grey. Steep it in just enough hot water to cover it. Now add heated cream and a jigger of sugar free French vanilla. Yum.
by Abbott Smith on Dec 2, 2011 10:32 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
wouldn't beer be tough on a diabetic too?
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Dec 4, 2011 2:53 PM PST up reply actions
I'm underage!
And I’ve proudly never touched an alcoholic drink. But, hot chocolate with a lot of chocolate and whipped cream. I could drink the stuff in the summer, too.
Perhaps try it Mexican-style
…with chilis. Should be some good recipes out there on the interwebs.
Mexican chocolate has never been a favorite of mine.
My church has a fairly strong Hispanic community and whenever they hold events where they serve Mexican drinks I tend to avoid them.
I met a possum.
by s0merand0mdude on Dec 4, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions
The Abyss is on tap
At Cooper’s Alehouse on Lake City Way. It’s a top 20 beer in America according to several beer snobs.
FRIMPONG ought always be written in full caps #DEEEEEEENCH
Boundary Bay's Cabin Fever.
Delicious. Cool little brewery here in Bellingham.
A keg of Boundary Bay as at my wedding
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They won America's Best Small Brewpub
at the recent Great American Beer Festival.
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21st Amendment Brewery - Fireside Chat Winter Spiced Ale
I’ve enjoyed Monk’s Blood from this brewery in the past, so I asked the guy at the beer store what he’d compare this to—he couldn’t come up with anything. Indeed. Nice, thick, malty, a bit o’ spice. Comes in a can. Not too hoppy. Tasty!

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