What Remains to Be Seen - Roster Depth
The roster for 2012 is beginning to take shape. If we assume that the team will indeed sign Johannson, Burch and Cato, the Starting 11 is likely pretty much set and we can take a step back and look at the team's overall balance. With the combine, International transfer window and the Super Draft looming just over the horizon, now is a good time to see what moves the Sounders may still need to make.
Move 1: Find a solid second string RB.
The one glaring hole in the Sounders current roster is at RB. Even if the team signs Johannson, they don't have a true second string RB. Someone, who can step in at a moment's notice and play a string of games in the case of an injury to Johannson.
Yes, the team can use Zach Scott in some scenarios. But at best he really should be used selectively. The team could also try to move a current player to this as a new position. Likely candidates would be Sanyang, Levesque or perhaps Evans or Seamon. In some respects this might be the best options for Sanyang or Levesque long term with the team, but it would definitely represent a project. And this position is best not left to a project. That leaves the draft, International market or a trade.
This year's Super Draft probably only has one viable candidate with the skill level the Sounders need from the position and that's Andrew Wenger. He appears to be the only player in the draft that could step in should the need arise. Anyone else is much more likely to be a long term proposition like Tetteh. Unfortunately, Wenger is going to go either 1st or 2nd in the draft barring Montreal and Vancouver getting a wild hair. If the Sounders want him, they are going to have to pay to get him. With the team's depth, this may not be a bad option for their approach to the draft, but at best it's a long shot.
That leaves the International market or a trade. I personally think that the player will come from one of these two options, but who that player will be remains to be seen. Figure a solid journeyman with a reasonable salary would be a good option. I would expect them to trade draft picks, if they go the trade route.
Move 2: Add to the Developmental Depth
The team doesn't have developmental depth on defense or at the foward position. Due to OBW's health issues, having one more forward might be slightly more pressing to get a full compliment of forwards. But neither position is a glaring need. The team can bring in a couple of projects and let them duke it out in camp for a couple of slots and then work to develop the winners' skills over time. This would be a nice opportunity for a draft player, a young international or if the right opportunity presents itself, a youth DP. Looking over the Sounders' projected payroll, they probably have enough money to squeeze in a youth DP if the right circumstances unfold. Otherwise, they will use their third DP slot for Rosales and work with youth.
I expect the team will probably start the season with Montero and Ochoa up top and OBW, Fucito and Levesque coming off the bench. OBW is an unknown at this point. Assume that he is recovering but not starting at the beginning of the season, then he and Fucito give the team two great options for offense off of the bench. Add Neagle and Evans to the mix, and the team should have a potent bench should they need offense. Might be nice to take a flyer on either a draft player or a young international and bring them into the fold in these conditions. Not much pressure, but opportunity to earn a spot if they perform particularly off the bench in the secondary competitions like the USOC. Taking a flyer on a young striker like Chandler Hoffman might be a great option in the draft. Yes, the Sounders would need to trade up, but given their depth, this is a real option this year. Only one or two players from from the draft even stands a chance of making this roster. Might as well take a chance on a player who has a decent chance and fits a need. If they find someone in CONCACAF who fits the bill, that is another option.
Burch gives the Sounders some depth at CB and LB. But they could still use some developmental depth on defense. Only Tetteh currently qualifies as a developmental player in any of the 4 backline positions. Given the time it takes for these players to develop, it would be good for the Sounders to bring a good young CB or RB. Certainly, Wenger would slot nicely into this position, but otherwise haven't heard much about either area in this year's draft. There are some CBs available who should fall to where the Sounders pick. And there is a chance that the Sounders could find another late round gem due to their scouting. One option the Sounders could use approaching the Super Draft is just to gather what is available at their picks in the positions that they need and then throw them all into the arena of camp. Best two players get contracts. Sink or swim. Might not be the most elegant solution, but it certainly wouldn't require a ton of immediate cost on the Sounders part. This could also push some of the Sounders current roster players like Seamon, Sanyang and Estrada to perform or get cut in camp.
Possible Move 3: Bring in a Veteran Back up GK
The Sounders may also opt to bring in a journeyman veteran to compete with Ford and Meredith. I doubt they will spend a ton of money on the option, but having a veteran backup might calm some nerves. This move is certainly not a given for me. I could easily see the team let Ford and Meredith stay and get some experience in the Reserves and Secondary tournaments. But I won't be surprised if they pick up a goalie either through a draft day trade or somewhere in the international market.
Possible Move 4: Flabbergast us all
The last possibility would be for the Sounders to pull off a coup de main. Sign some big name that no one expects. Sudenly the Sounders faithful look up and see someone like Ronaldhino or Drogba in Rave Green. Do I expect it? No. But in the words of Judy Tenuda, "Hey, it could happen."
What are your thoughts on what business remains to be done? How do you think the Sounders should approach the upcoming draft?
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About depth
I think Sanyang qualifies. He’s a CDM, RB, CB type and is very young for a pro.
Estrada also offers a development option at RB. While it hasn’t been tried in games it has been tried at practice.
Oddly, he also slots in as a developmental forward. It was his position in college. I’ve tended to like him better in CAM/WF roles during Reserve games than his time as a RW in MLS.
If you look at guys not on a “two deep” the following players will primarily get reserves time.
Cato – RW, WF, LW
Seamon – CM, CDM
Estrada – RW, WF, CAM, RB
Tetteh – LB, LM
Sanyang – CDM, RB, CB
Ford/Meredith
Levesque – everywhere
a draftee or two
With only 30 on roster there can’t be a full first/second/third team, but it gets pretty close. Pop a couple Academy kids and vet CBs that need time (Ianni, Scott) in and the above is probably the Reserve Team lineup for whenever their first game is.
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Does Sanyang have the speed to play RB???
With Ossie playing every meaningful minute at CDM, Don’t see a lot of oppotunity to continue to develop both Carasco and Sanyang at CDM. Time for Sanyang at CB would be interesting… seemed to have good size.
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Sanyang and 3 deep
I agree that Sanyang has defensive potential and I too would like to see the team move him to RB. I didn’t include him as a defensive prospect because the team seemed to use him in MF roles last year. He looked a bit lost and overmatched in the few games that I saw, but I chalk it up to youth and inexperience. I think he’d make a nice 3rd RB project.
As far as overall roster balance I would like to see the team be two deep at each position and then have a balanced group of developmental players and wiley veterans making up the remaining roster. Here’s how I see the team currently:
GK: 1. Gspurning 2/3 Ford & Meredith
CB: 1. Parke/ Hurtado 2. Ianni/ Scott 3. Burch
LB: 1. Gonzo 2. Burch 3. Tetteh
RB: 1. Johannson 3. Scott
CDM: 1. Alonso 2. Carrasco 3. Sanyang
CM: 1. Flaco/ Evans 3. Seamon
RW: 1. Rosales 2. Levesque 3. Estrada/Cato
LW: 1. Zak 2. Fernandez 3. Neagle
FWD: 1. Montero/Ochoa 2. Fucito/ OBW 3. Levesque
Much depends on how Zak and OBW recover. If Zak isn’t ready to go, I expect to see a lineup of Rosales-Evans-Flaco or less likely Rosales-Flaco-Neagle. If OBW is healthy, he and Ochoa will battle each other for minutes. I could also see Burch and Gonzo play musical chairs the way that Wahl and Gonzo did. I listed Gonzo as the starter simply because I think it is his to lose.
This leaves up to 3 roster spots, though the Sounders have indicated a preference for a roster of 29 which would mean only two slots. The team will carry 3 goalies. If they go get a veteran, then he and Ford and Meredith will battle for the 2 slots and won’t impact the other available slots.
If we figure that there will be two openings in addition to what is currently full, then the options get tight. AH indicated that he expected to have roughly 34-35 players in camp seriously competing to make the roster. Seamon, Sanyang, Estrada and Levesque will have to fight to keep their spots with Seamon and Sanyang being the most likely to be on the bubble. I fully expect the team to bring in at least one more serious candidate for RB. That takes one of the two remaining slots. I would expect the remaining slot to boil down to a cat fight among prospects. Figure Sanyang, the draftees, international invitees and perhaps Cato will be fighting for at most 3 slots. That doesn’t leave much room for draft picks and is one of the reasons that I fully expect the Sounders to be active traders relative to draft slots. Their draft picks appear to have more value as a trade bundle for veteran need player or to move up the draft order and snag a GA pick.
by Abbott Smith on Dec 28, 2011 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
I can see the Sounders trading down in the draft
The consensus list for the late first round of the draft don’t look terribly exciting. Also, the Sounders have the advantage of holding a separate combine and doing their own college scouting (particularly on the less scouted West Coast). I expect they’ll have some prospects that aren’t on other team’s radars and can be picked up in the 2nd round.
I’d love to see a reply of last season where they trade down for allocation and/or picks while still having a number of their targets still available late.
Right there's no real difference between late first and all of the second round
But if only one or two players are going to make the squad it would make more sense to trade up or out of the draft rather than down.
They don’t need 6 picks. They need one good pick and 2 or 3 flyers.
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by Dave Clark on Dec 29, 2011 7:31 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree that moving up or out is probably a better option
I’d really like to see the Sounders try to trade up and grab a Gen Addidas player.
by Abbott Smith on Dec 29, 2011 8:52 AM PST up reply actions
Very true
Even better than than having 2 or 3 flier would be some extra allocation they can use to fit in the young internationals they’re bringing in.
As you say, I wouldn’t mind them trading out of the draft if the deal is right. Although that wouldn’t be very exciting for us fans! :-)
Looks like you got your backup RB
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Roster Balance
I think that the thing that I am marvelling over this off season is how the FO is retooling the balance of the roster while also increasing the overall quality. Not only are the Sounders deep, now its a balanced depth.
by Abbott Smith on Dec 29, 2011 8:54 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Its only balanced depth if...
you start getting minutes and production from OBW and/or Z by mid season. If not, a huge burden falls on Ochoa and Fucito. While overall, I like their skill sets and potential, we still haven’t seen that they can contribute consistently for long stretches of games. It is consistent production (regardless of who) that keeps you rolling during congested parts of the season
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The alternative
I agree that they need more depth at forward. I would like to see them pick up one more insurance forward. Chandler Hoffman intrigues me as a possible draft target to fill the need. Sneaky, opportunistic and has shown a penchant for scoring goals in a plethora of ways at every level he’s played in.
Zak’s return is a little less problematic from a balance standpoint. Flaco can slide over to the left like last season and the team has Neagle behind him should Flaco need to move to the middle in lieu of Evans. The team also has Carrasco and Seamon in the middle in a pinch. Carrasco and Ozzie paired together is much more defensive but Oz showed signs last year of maturing into the ability to move forward.
Right now I see both Zak and OBW as subs during the first half of the season. Yes, Sigi’s recent interview comments caused alarm within the fan base, but as I mentioned elsewhere, I think this is about managing expectations more than stating that the players are not recovering as quickly as hoped. And the alternative would be to let them go. I can’t see that happening. Think of it this way, the team’s overall roster is balanced but two of the players are carrying injuries.
by Abbott Smith on Dec 29, 2011 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
Questions at RW
Is Rosales an iron man this year? I don’t know . . . can still picture the sideways angle that his knee bent. Seems like we have a big drop off at RW, unlike LW where there are 3 players we protected. I assume Evans is a frequent Sigi RW 2nd choice over Levesque and Estrada, especially if Zak is back and Flaco can move to CAM. But still – what’s a realistic prediction on # of games for Rosales/Evans across a brutal MLS/CONC/USOC schedule? Lose Rosales, and it seems like the right side gets weak pretty fast.
Alvaro and Neagle both played on the right at times
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Flaco and Evans
Flaco is actually a natural RW. Played LW to compensate for the loss of Zak. If Rosales goes down or needs a break, I imagine Sigi uses Flaco at RW, Evans in the Center and Zak/Neagle at LW. Then the team has Estrada and some of the prospects backing up RW from there. At the end of the 2011 season, Estrada came in a couple of games and showed signs that he is developing. If he continues to develop, he could be this season’s Neagle. No one going into the 2011 season would have predicted Neagle’s advancement. (Not to mention the addition of Rosales.) Healthy to keep this in mind looking at the roster going into a new season.
Comfortable at right?
I guess it never seemed that way for Flaco, to my eye. But maybe it’s just in comparison to the way the offense flowed with Rosales at RW. Possibly not a fair comparison. I agree on Estrada – looked good from what little we saw at end of season. If he makes a Neagle-like jump this year, good for us. If not, non-Rosales games could still leave us seeing a lot more Levesque than we’d like. Would still like a little more Mauro injury insurance – if it’s Flaco or Evans, we cannibalize depth at CAM, and end up single threaded at both spots.

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