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MLS National TV First Kick Disappointing, Lacks Sounders

FC Dallas hosts New York Red Bulls to start MLS on NBC Sports Network. Look at the background of this photo from an MLS Cup Playoff game, exciting atmosphere?

In a season with high TV expectations from North American soccer fans due MLS on NBC, three Canadian teams and a huge local TV rights deal for the Los Angeles Galaxy the league will start with a lackluster lineup of games. Instead of Major League Soccer's television partners (NBC, ESPN, Galavision in USA; TSN in Canada) launching with the most popular teams in the nation thereby starting with a foot forward there will be some disappointment as the Galaxy nor the Seattle Sounders will be in the opener.

Instead Arlo White and NBC Sports Network (currently versus) will start with FC Dallas hosting New York Red Bulls while Galavision grabs the other Sunday game between Chivas USA and the Houston Dynamo. ESPN does get to head to Portland where the Timbers host the Philadelphia Union. Canada does get a stellar opener between the Vancouver Whitecaps and the Montreal Impact on TSN, even if the teams aren't MLS Cup contenders it will have national appeal.

While some will like that the league and its partners are being more diverse, the sacrifice in ratings negates any esoteric bonus of fairness. For the league's quality to improve as quickly as Don Garber wants (top league by 2022) there needs to be higher quality soccer, that takes money that only high television ratings can offer. If atmosphere matters it is rather surprising that two teams that are assured of sell-outs with over 25,000 people, who draw in eyeballs and with a handful of the better players in the region and all the American trophies of 2011 is a miss.

New production will still draw plenty of interest from MLS diehards, and maybe there will be a bump since the majority of fans won't be at their Saturday home games when all three US national broadcasts take place. Though very early, only one MLS Cup contender (FCD) is on the docket. Every match-up is between an Eastern Conference and Western Conference team, which is trend that should continue for the other teams playing opening weekend. If Toronto FC doesn't have a bye, or play LA they will have brutal travel to start the season.

League Press Release Follows;

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MLS Announces the Four National Broadcasts of First Kick 2012
First Kick presented by Dick’s Sporting Goods begins Saturday, March 10
NEW YORK (Tuesday, Dec. 6, 2011) – MLS today announced details of the four nationally televised matches during the opening week of the 2012 MLS season, known as First Kick presented by Dick’s Sporting Goods.
The matchups, times and broadcast information are below, including storylines for each game.
Home teams listed first, all times Eastern
Sat., March 10 – Vancouver Whitecaps FC vs. Montreal Impact
6 p.m. ET on TSN and in French on RDS or RDS2 from BC Place (PREVIEW VIDEO)
· The MLS debut for Montreal Impact, the League’s 19th team.
· Launches a new chapter in a 20-year-old rivalry between these two Canadian clubs, who had many spirited encounters in lower divisions. Later this night, the cities’ respective NHL teams also square off in Vancouver.
· The Whitecaps are unbeaten in home openers since 2001 and their first MLS home game was a 4-2 win against Toronto FC.
Sun., March 11 – FC Dallas vs. New York Red Bulls
3 p.m. ET on NBC Sports Network, from Pizza Hut Park (PREVIEW VIDEO)
· The first MLS game to be broadcast as part of the new, three-year partnership with NBC.
· FC Dallas will look to avenge their elimination from the 2011 MLS Cup Playoffs by the Red Bulls on Oct. 26 at Pizza Hut Park.
· Two of the League’s hottest stars are likely to factor prominently – FC Dallas’ Brek Shea and New York’s Thierry Henry – both named to the 2011 MLS Best XI.
Sun., March 11 – Chivas USA vs. Houston Dynamo
7 p.m. ET on Galavisión, from The Home Depot Center (PREVIEW VIDEO)
· Just 113 days after their 1-0 loss in the championship, the Dynamo return to the site of MLS Cup.
· Two of the largest Hispanic fan bases in MLS have a vested interest in the first Spanish-language broadcast of the new season.
· Chivas USA defeated Houston 3-0 in Carson last July, their first win against the Dynamo since their inaugural season (2006).
Mon., March 12 – Portland Timbers vs. Philadelphia Union
9:30 p.m. ET on ESPN2, ESPN Deportes & ESPN3 from Jeld-Wen Field (PREVIEW VIDEO)
· Timbers Army and the always-boisterous Jeld-Wen Field await the Union in the 11th Monday game in MLS history.
· Two of the most exciting rookies in 2011 – Portland’s Darlington Nagbe and Philly’s Michael Farfan – will look to provide a spark for their team.
· Portland sold out every league game in 2011, while Philadelphia’s PPL Park was filled to about 99 percent capacity and the Sons of Ben traveled well.
Each club will play 34 games in the 2012 MLS Regular Season; CLICK HERE for details on the format.
For the dates of the 2012 home openers for all 19 MLS clubs CLICK HERE.

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Really a game hosted in Dallas for the first NBC game?

That doesn’t seem like a wise decision… I realize it’s on the NBC sports channel, but still doesn’t seem like a game I’d want if I was NBC for the very first game of the season, even if it is against NY.

by majora999 on Dec 6, 2011 10:30 AM PST reply actions  

FCD fans seem to show up for special games so i think the staidum will be near full.

FCD average attendance for 2011 was 11954 but 20145 showed up to the opener vs Chicago. And 17019 for the NY game. Highest attendance was 21867 vs LA.

How the TV ratings will be i dont know.

by MurrayD on Dec 6, 2011 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Wow.

Is this How ESPN is going to get back at NBC for taking all the best NFL games for Sunday Night Football and making Monday Night Football suck? They make sure NBC gets stuck with that as their opening game?

"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."

by DarthGreedo on Dec 6, 2011 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

I'm okay with this

I know that in the long-run, MLS needs better national ratings, but in the short-term, I’m happy to have the Sounders on local TV for their home opener. Given that the options were KING/KONG, TSN, Galavision, and ESPN2, I like the KING/KONG option best, because I generally don’t like cable-only broadcasts.

IMO, MLS needs to put their primary focus on drumming up local ratings for the local teams. I definitely wouldn’t downplay the impact that having Sounders games on local broadcast TV has had. I was not a season ticket holder in the inagural season, and as someone who didn’t have cable, I probably would not have become so attached to the team if I couldn’t see as many games as I did on television.

The national ratings will come along after the local interest is established.

by ubelmann on Dec 6, 2011 11:07 AM PST reply actions  

It’s not impossible that the Sounders will be playing several reserves in their first MLS game.

Probably a tough decision between wanting to do everything you can for your season ticketholders, making the opening kick as special as possible, and actually giving themselves a chance in CCL. It’s possible this played a factor in deciding whether to have Sounders on national tv.

by Kalani on Dec 6, 2011 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

Intereting choices, for sure

But considering our fixture congestion to start the season I’m a bit relieved we dont have the pressure of another First Kick. IMO, playing our best guys for Santos is more important. Obviously LA is the defending champs and league needs to showcase them but if it were truly about having the best teams play to start the season RSL would have a match also. At this point its common knowledge that Seattle is an amazing atmosphere so it would be in the best interest of the league to show that there are other areas of the country that have a significant interest in the game.

I just hope Pizza Hut Park has more than 20k for the opener.

Go banana!

by Disco_Stew on Dec 6, 2011 11:14 AM PST reply actions  

Interesting

Weird that MLS would put out a press release that basically says, we are not going to nationally televise the first game (TSN only ).
If I remember right, and I don’t always, last years first game was very good for ratings.

by Charles J on Dec 6, 2011 11:32 AM PST reply actions  

This is what happens when

The sooner we ignore the idiots on the east coast the better off we’ll be. We keep drawing 40,000+, and poor ol Arlo White (remember him?) can get left to trying to defend his new employers’ decisions to lead off with Who Cares versus I dont give a.

If MLS wants eyeballs they know where to look.

And if we want layer upon layer of byzantine politics having little to nothing to do with the Sounders, we can keep following this mess. I for one would prefer we don’t.

by luckystriker on Dec 6, 2011 11:46 AM PST reply actions  

As a league, MLS needs to create a broad base of fans

If their primary focus was national ratings, then sure, they could get higher ratings next year by airing more Cascadia games, and overall more games where attendance is high. But their primary focus should be on the overall league fanbase, and they’re not going to grow that fanbase if they concentrate on near-term ratings and showing the 3-4 most popular teams all the time.

Dallas-NY is a worthy first kick matchup. FCD should have Ferriera back, and if he stays healthy all season and they keep Brek Shea healthy all season, they could easily be an MLS Cup contender. And personally, I think that NYRB are generally an interesting team to watch, even if Henry is one of the most patronizing players in the league. If NYRB find a way to add any depth to their team, they could also be an MLS Cup contender.

by ubelmann on Dec 6, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

how does other lesser teams help things

How many people are not following MLS because they have not seen their local team or some other team with bad support on national tv?

by lysander on Dec 6, 2011 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

because believe it or not

Teams that were good last year will be bad this year and vice versa. No point in putting all your marketing eggs in one basket. To the casual fan the quality amongst all the teams not named the LA Galaxy isn’t different enough to notice. These games make sense- new Canadian rivalry, Spanish speaking demographic, two playoff teams from huge media markets and the sons of Ben vs the TA, the leagues newest fun supporters groups.

by ledjom on Dec 6, 2011 8:46 PM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Exactly

Why focus on a couple teams when those teams are going to have up and downs? Market the whole league.

by ubelmann on Dec 6, 2011 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

teams that have support

one year are generally the same the next year.

But you did not answer my question.

How many are not MLS fans because they have not seen a particular team on national TV?

by lysander on Dec 7, 2011 6:54 AM PST up reply actions  

FC Dallas and Chivas USA will probably have larger than norm crowd

Home openers draw more people. So why not get some national attention to help convince you and others the league is bigger than just a few teams?

Nos audietis in somniis, Nos audietis in altum: You will hear us!

by chrisso on Dec 7, 2011 7:15 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I'm not claiming that they shouldn't be on TV

I’m saying that the First Kick lineup of game isn’t all that great. And that there are teams that sell the league better that aren’t going to be on First Kick.

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by Dave Clark on Dec 7, 2011 8:01 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Sure, but it's good business to throw those other teams a bone here and there

If you keep featuring the teams with high attendance figures, eventually the hard-core fans of FCD, CUSA, etc., are going to get a stick up their butt about the league’s pro-Sounders/pro-LA/pro-Timbers, etc. bias, just like other people on this thread clearly already have a stick up their butt about east coast bias. It’s not all about selling the league to new fans, you have to cater to the existing fans as well.

by ubelmann on Dec 7, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Let's have our best teams on national television the same week that March Madness starts!

That way we put all our eggs into the basket we’re most likely to win with! Right, guys?

If you schedule the good games towards the beginning of the season the games start to get really boring down the road.

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 7, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Also,

I’d much rather have Dallas on national TV in March, where the whole it’s hotter than hell here you’ve got to be crazy to sit in the sun for 3 hours, excuse doesn’t exist.

by ledjom on Dec 7, 2011 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

And every rule in every league is built around giving those teams an advantage

(the most egregious of which is the kickoff time for NFL teams, where it’s okay for west coast teams to play 10am kickoffs on the east coast (1pm body clock time for opponents) but GOD FORBID easterners have to come out to the west for an early game (again, post-noon for them).

Every sports network covers the east coast teams incessantly, and even their worst teams get more coverage than our best.

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

But when was the last time you heard about the Portland Trailblazers?

Catering to the largest metropolitan area ≠ covering the west coast.

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 6, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Population of Los Angeles Metropolitan area = 12,828,837

Population of the entire West Coast (California, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho, Washington): 51,640,402

Read as: Los Angeles makes up 25% of the West Coast market, but gets 99.9% of the coverage.

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 6, 2011 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That's just not true, and you know it.

The whole east coast/large market media bias is so ridiculously blown out of proportion it’s not even funny.

People running television networks aren’t partisan idiots. They’re looking to make money.

by Aaron Campeau on Dec 6, 2011 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, yes.

But when teams are doing well on the West Coast they get highlights shown on SportsCenter, whereas when East coast teams are doing average ESPN has a special on why the team isn’t what it used to be.

Let’s look at the 49ers. What’s their record? An impressive 10-2. That’s second in the entire NFL. DO you hear about them on Sportscenter? No, you hear about the Eagles blowing up.

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 6, 2011 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually I hear about Tim Tebow.

All the flipping time. When the Mariners won 116 games in 2001 they were one of the biggest stories in sports. The 49ers dynasty teams were massively popular. The mid-90s Sonics teams were also a big deal.

by Aaron Campeau on Dec 6, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

You hear about Tim Tebow because of what he did in Florida and nothing more.

I do agree, some people blow the east coast bias out of proportion, but it’s still there.

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 6, 2011 4:26 PM PST up reply actions  

No, we hear about Tebow because he's an insanely popular story.

And there is bias, but it’s bias towards what makes money and gets ratings. That’s why the Sounders and Timbers are the big stories in MLS. If there was some genuine systemic geographical bias, we’d never hear about Cascadia at all.

by Aaron Campeau on Dec 6, 2011 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

He's a popular story for being a quarterback at Florida.

He hasn’t done anything of note in Denver other than being Tim Tebow. But now we’re arguing about something different.

Your Cascadia argument is irrelevant because the national media barely gives soccer the time of day. True, the league popularizes Cascadia, and ESPN promotes it when they’re carrying the game, but you’ll never hear about it on Sportscenter since it’ll be too busy talking about baseball or the NFL offseason.

Still, I did have a bit of a revelation about why the 49ers aren’t being covered despite their success: the lack of a big name. I almost brought up earlier how the Dodgers lost their media spotlight once Manny Ramirez left, which further shows that what I’m pointing to as East coast bias has more to do with the media’s tendency to focus on players rather than teams. It’s the reason we heard waaay more about Ichiro in 2001 than we did about his supporting cast.

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 6, 2011 4:40 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You're kidding right?

You think people are talking about him now because of Florida? There’s no way you’re being serious right now. I think he’s an awful QB, but he’s 6-1 and probably the most polarizing sports figure of my lifetime. It has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he went to Florida.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Dec 6, 2011 6:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Again, an exception to the rule.

Tebow has been news since before he was drafted.

Remember Joba Chamberlain?

He never would have been a story in Denver, but he had SEGMENTS devoted to him just for being a mediocre reliever.

There are exceptions, like Griffey, 116, etc. But those take true record-setters and hall-of-famers. I maintain that Griffey would have been even BIGGER had he been a Yankee, Red Sock, or even a Toronto Blue Jay.

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That's Yankees bias.

No one is arguing that the Yankees don’t receive more media coverage than most teams, but it has nothing to do with where they are located. It has to do with the fact that they are the most popular baseball team in the world.

by Aaron Campeau on Dec 6, 2011 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

And he was the biggest star in baseball for a decade!

A-Rod and Randy were also huge star well before they left! The 1995 Mariners comeback was one of the biggest sports stories of the year!

by Aaron Campeau on Dec 6, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't remember what things were like in 1995.

I was 5 at the time.

But like I said before, Griffey was one of the best in the history of the game, and his retirement couldn’t overcome one game recap.

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

SO was Michael Jackson when he died

People acted as though he stopped in the prime of his career.

(yes, I understand death is a little different than “retirement”)

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Griffey's retirement was overshadowed by an almost complete game

I admit that it was an important “almost” in that the umpire blew it, but we’re talking about the biggest name in baseball since Mays.

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

No, he could've gone to any school

My point’s that he’s not a name because of his NFL career, he’s a name because of his college career. I’m sorry if it seemed that I was saying Florida helped him make that name

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 6, 2011 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

LA is the one exception to the rule.

Outside of LA teams, anything west of the mississippi only gets coverage when someone dies/is in trouble. And then it’s just a 200 word blurb that you have to google search to find.

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Example: the death of Dave Niehaus versus the death of other announcers around that time.

Honestly, I was surprised then that he was even mentioned.

Another example is the NFL draft.
Last year there were commercials during the Seahawks’ second, fourth, and remaining picks.

It’s not hyperbolic. It’s how things are.

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 7:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Holy cherry-picking dude.

For one, Niehaus’ death was a really huge deal in baseball.
As for the other point; seriously? I mean, seriously?

by Aaron Campeau on Dec 6, 2011 7:25 PM PST up reply actions  

The draft thing happens EVERY year. People complain about it on Field Gulls EVERY YEAR

Let me ask you this. Do you think that the New Jersey Nets moving would have flown under the national radar the way the Sonics did (save for the wonderful work of the Sonicsgate guys)?

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

The reaction from people I know around the country has been a consistent "Meh"

These are sports fans even.

Their reaction: “You guys should have gone to more games”.
“teams move all the time now”

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, being the Seattle SB blogger

I imagine you probably talk to people that are more in the know already.

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I talk to all kinds of people.

It’s not like I live in a sports nerd bubble.

by Aaron Campeau on Dec 6, 2011 7:34 PM PST up reply actions  

That's not what I meant. Sorry if it came off that way.

So let me ask this; Which has seemed like a bigger story to you? Sacramento or Seattle? Because I feel like both have been covered similarly in national media, and outside of the last few weeks of their season, I haven’t heard much about Sacramento at all.

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know, maybe I just always had those channels on at the wrong time

I continue to stand by my feeling that the west coast gets routinely shafted though. To continue; league replays of teams in the west are either shorter (or nonexistent) when compared to their eastern counterparts.

Thursday night football was a great example. The whole show, and Mike and Mike the next day, was ALL about Philly. Never mind the team had lots of good reasons for losing that game (traveling across country on the short week, 12th man, injuries, etc)

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 7:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Right, but Philly was expected to be a Super Bowl contender

and instead are a disaster. In what universe is their continuing collapse no a bigger story than the Seahawks being mediocre as expected?

by Aaron Campeau on Dec 6, 2011 7:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Those hopes were dead weeks ago

The media was beating a horse that had already become zombified from death. Traditionally, the winning team gets more coverage. When it comes to the Hawks though, It always seems to be the other way around when they win.
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen a highlight clip for a hawks game (one of the rare times they’re shown) where they showed more clips of the other QB throwing incomplete passes than they did anything positive for Seattle. But even when the Hawks shut out another team 28-0, getting shown on Sportscenter isn’t a sure thing.

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

They had only had one bad year when they plastered the Rams 28-0 in the first week of 2009

Many thought that 2008 was a fluke under the last year of Holmgren.

And they sure weren’t a big deal in 2005, as almost every team they went against was picked to beat them. Redskins, Panthers, Steelers, all favored despite a league-leading 13-3 record.

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 8:13 PM PST up reply actions  

The seahawks have playoff hopes.

They’re currently the ninth-best team in a conference that gets six playoff spots, and there’s still a quarter of a season left. Also, the only team with a winning record left on their schedule is the 49ers, and I believe that’s a home game.

We had the same record as the Eagles going into the game. Why do you think their playoff hopes ended after kickoff and say ours ended before?

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 6, 2011 9:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

That's not the point I'm making.

The point I’m making is that the Eagles are a far bigger story than the Seahawks because the expectations were drastically different. The Seahawks being the team everyone expected is not news; the Eagles sucking a lot more than anyone expected is.

by Aaron Campeau on Dec 7, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

But the Seahawks aren't the team that everyone expected

They were supposed to be the Rams, and the Rams were supposed to be the 49ers…

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 7, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

Kickoff times in the NFL is your big example of huge east coast bias?

by ubelmann on Dec 6, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It's the most egregious

ESPN moved a Sports Center show out to LA because of how blatanly obvious it was that they were east coast homers. And considering the ammount of air time they give to the Red Sox/Yankees, NY Jets, Miami Heat (before last year), its pretty easy to see why people that way.

Go banana!

by Disco_Stew on Dec 6, 2011 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

There's also the joke that is the NBA Western Conference

The one that spans three timezones.

Also, the NFC West spans three.

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 6, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I realize that Dallas could

potentially be a no show with the fans, but they are bringing in New York and that will be boost. Lets just be happy that NBC is even televising MLS in the first place. I’m not so sure the first weeks slate of game is going to determine the growth of the league by 2022. Nor that Dallas/New York and Montreal/Vancouver will be lackluster. Chivas/Houston..I’d agree

by fcjake on Dec 6, 2011 11:48 AM PST reply actions  

I HATE HATE HATE that we never get to see Canadian games/ I hope Toronto hosts us for first kick

Would’ve been great if CBUT had won the Canadian MLS contract, because then we could actually see this opening kickoff.

I mean, putting Montreal/Vancouver and Portland on the national TV makes sense, but really? CHIVAS at home? DALLAS at home? They should have gone for the trifecta and done a REVOLUTION game at home.

I’m not shocked that Seattle isn’t in the First Kick this year. Don Garber said something to that extent in his interviews at the SEA-LA opener last year. “Other teams have earned the right” or something like that. But they left out LA too. It almost seems like some sort of mixup where the league could have had these team’s games but all thought everyone else had them.

BTW: Is it just me, or does ESPN seem to have developed a major boner for the Timbers? I guess it makes sense; two organizations that hate Seattle, joining forces. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend” or whatnot.

It’d be kind of interesting to see Seattle vs Toronto in that first week, considering they’re both in the Champions League Final. And since we’re not beholden to hosting for national television, I’m hoping we start on the road this year. It negates the risk of us showing up to watch two team’s reserves play in what’s supposed to be a big game (not that I have any problem watching reserves).

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

Is it possible

That Seattle and LA get a bye due to CCL? I know Toronto doesn’t, but just curious that both LA and Seattle don’t have a game on TV.

by Adam Waltering on Dec 6, 2011 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

Soccer 2nd Tier in The Great White North

They’re starting 1st Kick with a game in Vancouver? The same night the Canucks (Stanley Cup Losers, AKA “We predict a Riot”) are taking on the Canadiens in Vancouver? Were they planning on having an empty stadium?

Not sure if anyone else watched a certain match at Philly last year – there was a Eagles or Flyers playoff game the same day. Their stadium was empty, and the Union have decent attendance. I predict the same outcome with this.

I’m not upset the sounders didn’t get picked (we’ve had the honor the past 3 years), just pick a team and fanbase that will make soccer seem exciting for all those new, potential fans that may tune in. You only get one first impression, if the game is boring and the stadium is silent they’ll change the channel.

by 2ndAveSoundersFan on Dec 6, 2011 12:59 PM PST reply actions  

Eh, it's an afternoon game

Soccer and hockey doesn’t have a ton of crossover, and the Vancouver fans are usually pretty good.

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 6, 2011 1:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Getting all teams exposure is not the worst strategy for NBC.

I am going to be at Century Link for the Sounders game and just hope we play better than we did in our opener in 2011. Granted the Nkufo news had just dropped and LA played cynical soccer. I think a healthy league needs lots of successful teams on TV. I will probably watch as much MLS as I can but I also play MLS Fantasy Manager so there’s that.

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by chrisso on Dec 6, 2011 1:14 PM PST reply actions  

So, my math...

Shows that we could play Chicago, Columbus, the Revs, RSL, Sporting, or Toronto. I am ready for the full schedule!

by @Thomas513 on Dec 6, 2011 1:40 PM PST reply actions  

The decision to omit the Galaxy is somewhat odd for my money

As LA is probably the side most likely to field players your non-MLS fan has heard of, with fair consideration that Seattle would undoubtedly be the loudest stadium that weekend, and probably provide some of the best “atmosphere”. The March to the Match is practically a made-for-primetime event.

However, and this is probably what it comes down to, NY-Dallas is my guess for the largest combined TV market for two teams playing that weekend.

Honestly, happy to see Portland-Philly for the Monday night game. Love em or hate em, that stadium and the TA should represent well for the MLS.

Chivas-Houston makes a ton of sense for Galavision, and obviously you can’t do better than Vancouver-Montreal for the Canadian channels.

by Kingdomer on Dec 6, 2011 2:14 PM PST reply actions  

This author clearly isn't in marketing or advertising

A major point is the sounders fans will watch the game most likely anyways, as they are avid fans. By putting in a non-sounders team you get that teams fans +more sounders fans. Also, I know you love your team and think you are the center of all things soccer, but RBNY has a much wider national draw than the sounders do. Also you have to consider marque match ups that might happen later in the season and be more important that they’d rather air when they mean more.

by $ick Na$ty on Dec 6, 2011 8:24 PM PST reply actions  

Fixed

A major point is the sounders fans will watch the game most likely anyways, as they are avid fans. By putting in a non-sounders team you get that teams fans +more sounders fans. Also, I know you love your team and think you are the center of all things soccer, but Thierry Henry has a much wider national draw than the sounders do. Also you have to consider marque match ups that might happen later in the season and be more important that they’d rather air when they mean more.

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 8:26 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

You have built your statement on the false foundation that RBNY is a national draw

It hasn’t been, ever.

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by Dave Clark on Dec 6, 2011 9:02 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Actually

There were 46k for the Red bulls game, but we also drek 63k for the Earthquakes game… so I’m not sure how much the opponent had to do with either.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Dec 6, 2011 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Obviously the Earthquakes are one of the premier squads in the country that everyone wants to see

The 46k were more for the 3 game package that also included Manchester United than it was for Henry or the Energy Drinks (I mean that with ALL due respect).

by Agent_J on Dec 6, 2011 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

This is undeniably true

But not sure how it fits into the whole East Coast bias argument.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Dec 6, 2011 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

My east coast bias argument is based on perception from leagues and media outlets

And has little if anything to do with how many Sounders fans come to see any given game.
Then again, the east coast is on the Atlantic Ocean, which is also the ocean that the UK borders on, and MAN U gets more coverage than we do, so that’s obviously an example of ECB (I’m 75 percent joking)

by Agent_J on Dec 7, 2011 6:28 AM PST up reply actions  

If you mean me...

It doesn’t have anything to do with it because that argument is a different thread.

I’m good at compartmentalizing.

I met a possum.

by s0merand0mdude on Dec 7, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

The NYRB game was also on a Thursday night...

…as opposed to a Saturday, and there was more time to market the SJE tickets.

by ubelmann on Dec 6, 2011 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Regardless

The attendance numbers of New York on the road being whatever they are are not an indication of their ability to generate national TV numbers. The only games of theirs with high for MLS TV numbers are those involving Seattle or LA.

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by Dave Clark on Dec 7, 2011 8:02 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

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