Depth Chart - 3XI Right in this moment, here in this instant
by Dave Clark on Mar 21, 2011 12:00 PM PDT
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Blaise Nkufo is gone. And again, like in 2010, the spine is broken. All four players out due to health are in the spine, and specifically the attacking side of it. Yet, Seattle is one of the leaders in shots on goal. Coach Sigi Schmid has used different shapes, and very different starting lineups as he has tried to compensate for the minor injury to Steve Zakuani.
At the least we know that right here in this moment, right in this instant the depth is gone. O'Brian White, who was supposed to learn from a DP and Nate Jaqua while getting reserve time, is a starter. Lamar Neagle, who was supposed to continue to develop as a non-league player, is now a regular sub.
When Sigi decided to go with a second defensive midfielder, he did not go to Patrick Ianni, but to rookie Servando Carrasco. There may be an opportunity for Ianni to become a starter, but at this point it seems his best chance will be when Leo Gonzalez or Jhon Kennedy Hurtado sit from accumalation.
It is spinal.
The depth chart;
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White |
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Noonan |
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Jaqua |
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Zakuani |
Montero |
Fernandez |
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Montano |
Estrada |
Rosales |
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Fuciito |
Neagle |
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Friberg |
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Evans |
ForMidFender |
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Seamon |
Levesque |
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Gonzalez |
Alonso |
Riley |
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Tetteh |
Carrasco |
Scott |
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Parke |
Hurtado |
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Wahl |
Ianni |
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Graham |
Keller |
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Boss |
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Ford |
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| Players in Camp | ||||||
| Injured List: | None | 29 | ||||
| Injured | ||||||
| Seamon | Depth by Role | |||||
| Jaqua | Forwards | Wide Mids | Center Mids | Full Backs | Center Backs | |
| Fucito | Montero | Zakuani | Alonso | Gonzalez | Parke | |
| Evans | Jaqua | Fernandez | Evans | Riley | Hurtado | |
| White | Friberg | Friberg | Tetteh | Ianni | ||
| Fucito | Rosales | Rosales | Wahl | Wahl | ||
| Rosales | Tetteh | Seamon | Scott | Graham | ||
| Neagle | Neagle | Carrasco | Ianni | Scott | ||
| Levesque | Montano | Ianni | Levesque | |||
| Estrada | Estrada | Levesque | Neagle | |||
| Noonan | Levesque |
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He hasn't been listed as out
IIRC, but he’s still been “carrying a knock”
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My goodness....
Noonan is listed as second on the depth chart at target forward. It’s like I’m waking up from a bad dream from 2010.
If everyone
was healthy and we still had N’kufo, Noonan would be on the bottom of the list.
I know
hopefully Seattle will cut him when his option comes up.
Good point on Ianni
I think it’s a positive sign that Carrasco started at CM instead of Ianni. I like Ianni a lot as a CB, but in his time as a CM last year it seemed like we had trouble keeping possession.
and yet, despite all of this...
we have created extremely dangerous chances that ought to have been goals. These aren’t “coulda” chances, or “woulda” chances, these were “shoulda” chances. We convert about half these “shoulda” chances and we’re looking at 2,3,or 4 points against two of the consensus top teams and not zero….
...that's MISTER Keller to you!!!
by malcontentjake on Mar 21, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Possession vs Counter formations?
Is there a difference in formations and depth chart between playing possession-style versus counter-style of soccer?
Sigi said in LA-postgame quotes, “Our league is a league where the team that usually has more possession loses because it’s a counter-attacking league.” I interpreted this as our team set-up to play more possession.
But now in the NY-postgame quotes, Sigi said, “We knew we wanted to counter; Carrasco is one of our better long passers of the ball. He can get the ball forward to open up that counter for us.” That isn’t really reflected in the dept chart above. I understand that this is still early in the year to predict where all the new kids go, but I still wonder if there should be two different charts depending on the strategy we’re going for.
Did our countering-style formation still look like Sigi’s arrow? i wasn’t really paying attention because of all the March madness happening around me at the same time.
Against NYY they played more tradition 4-2-3-1
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With the team now having depth at Center/Wide Mid and CB would a change in formation make sense at all?
Or is it just way to hard to change formations on the fly like that?
It seems that the best 10, healthy field players are something like
F: Montero
CM: Friberg
Wide: Zakuani, Fernandez, Rosales
CDM: Alonso
CB: Parke, Hurtado, Ianni
FB: Riley
I have no idea how that would even work, some assemetrical 3-2-4-1 or other craziness…
I submit you can't counter through Montero
He instinctively slows the game down with the ball in midfield instead of speeding it up. We countered decently the last couple of years through Zakuani and Nyassi. Ljungberg was an okay counterer in ’09 but he held the ball too long and went down too easy.
Nos Audietis
I think this can change
but you’re right about Zak and Sanna, which is why I brought up the whole “Flaco is not a ‘winger’” issue in my Sat. night post…
Let’s all take a breathe and remember how this team turned it around last year, and how they had success in ‘09: They were content to play a possession-oriented game which a) limited opponent’s chances and b) eventually created openings through persistence. This has never been a high-scoring team. I don’t think a counter-attacking style is best for long-term success. If you travel around the world you will find that teams which can Consistently win games will play in a manner in which they try to control possession.
...that's MISTER Keller to you!!!
by malcontentjake on Mar 21, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Possession or Counter
In response to hormd, it is my observation that teams tend to attack at home and counter on the road. Certainly that is the Seattle pattern.
Nyassi
We should use our open spot to reacquire Nyassi!
What does
“3XI Right in this moment, here in this instant” mean, or, “It is spinal?”
3 XIs, as in three different groups of 11, except that its really only 30 guys
I happen to like the band 311, and so often relate these posts through a lyric or song title.
It is spinal notes last year, in the first 15 games the team sucked, and that was due to its broken spine.
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Why oh why
Couldn’t we have drawn NY this week instead. And we feel like we’re shorthanded…
"But who would listen to Little old me anyway?"
-by thehemogoblin
Rosales
Think he can hold the ball up?
Or score?
"But who would listen to Little old me anyway?"
-by thehemogoblin
we'll see
and find out once he starts playing more.
doubtful...
Nearly every single highlight in this Rosales video comes on a counter attack. The impression I’ve gotten from the highlight of I have watched would be “Sanna with Vision”, maybe a touch slower.
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