Brian Mullan Shaken Over Tackle, Steve Zakuani Injury
UPDATE 3: As you've probably heard, Steve Goff of the Washington Post is reporting that the ban will be 10 games, include a $5,000 fine (suspensions are with pay in MLS) and that Mullan is expected to appeal the ban. We've also received word from the MLS office that nothing will be announced until Thursday.
UPDATE 2: Brian Mullan apparently issued another statement, which I'm sure will not appease anyone hoping he would take real ownership of the tackle that caused Zakuani's injury: "It is with regret that my tackle resulted in the injury of Steve and I am deeply sorry to Steve and all those impacted by his injury."
UPDATE: Got word from MLS that the punishment is expected to be handed down on Wednesday.
When Brian Mullan first made his statements about having done such a tackle many times before it was a "non-apology apology" that seemed disingenuous. Seattle Sounders fans were quick to criticize not just Mullan, but Sigi Schmid for his statements supporting his former player. Today though we learn that Mullan is distraught over the tackle of Steve Zakuani and its resulting double fracture.
This shouldn't surprise, nor should it be doubted. Over time we all look back at mistakes we have made and ideally learn from them. In the heat of the moment, in the darkness of a loss that is their fault a player can have a very different attitude and framework than days later. The explosion of support for Zakuani from players, commentators and fans around MLS probably influenced Mullan's rethinking of his previous position.
While is his suspension is yet to be announced his time away from soccer may last much longer.
The Major League Soccer Disciplinary Committee is expected to rule on any punishment for Mullan on Tuesday. Smith said he thinks a suspension of 2-3 games on top of the automatic suspension for Mullan’s red card would be appropriate, but given Mullan’s current state of mind, he may well be out for longer than any suspension.
"The guy is distraught about it," Smith said at training Tuesday, adding that Mullan is seeking counseling in the aftermath of the incident. "He is visibly shaken and there is no way he can train. I said to him to take some time off to try and come to terms with it, and I don’t think he is going to be ready for quite a while."
Taking Coach Smith at his words is both easy and right to do. The cynic would be tempted to call this an attempt to reduce the suspension. The cynic would be failing to recognize that any of us would change our mind, our position, over time.
Considering everything, regardless of the suspension I suspect that Brian Mullan will not be on the pitch with the Colorado Rapids for their match here in mid-summer.
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Well...
He should be distraught, but Zakuani will never hold a grudge against him for it. Too much class, as was evidenced by his letter to Sounders fans today.
Well Said
Thank you Dave. By all accounts Brian Mullan is a physical player who made a horrible mistake. He now has to live with the consequences. As human beings we can all support him as well as Zakuani. He will be punished by the league. He will question himself. The damage has been done. My hope is that we as fans can match Steve’s dignity and grace in how we treat Brian Mullan.
by Abbott Smith on Apr 26, 2011 2:25 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I said on the ECS boards...
…that there was no way that Mullan would be on the pitch for the game in July, whether it is because of the pending suspension, or just because there is no way they would subject him to a crowd that would be out for (figurative) blood. Nothing in the above story changes my prediction. I doubt they even bring him to Seattle.
i agree with this
especially if he is distraught i feel like coming to seattle will just make things worse.
and as someone who has played soccer for many years, i believe that he is distraught.
BOO HOO for how distraught Little Brian is
He maimed a rising star player and individual for no reason but his own spitefulness. F—k that guy. Retire and go into the woods to contemplate your misdeeds.
by lemonverbena on Apr 26, 2011 2:26 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Will hating on Mullan heal a broken Tib/Fib?
Will him no longer having an income help anyone?
Or maybe he’s being genuine
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So I should just let bygones be bygones?
I’m furious at the guy but that’s just my feelings as a fan, and I think that’s legitimate. I’m not picketing the guy’s house.
YET
by lemonverbena on Apr 26, 2011 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You're entitled to feel how you'd like to feel.
That doesn’t mean people are going to agree with you.
by Aaron Campeau on Apr 26, 2011 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
All I'm saying is I feel perfectly comfortable being angry at the guy
How anyone else feels is their business, like always in this life.
by lemonverbena on Apr 26, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
and I agree with you
a guy takes out my favorite player with a malicious tackle – and it WAS malicious – and I say “Let him suffer under the weight of his conscience”
...that's MISTER Keller to you!!!
by malcontentjake on Apr 26, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions
You've had some of the tamer responses
Many of the things said about Mullan in the Sounders name tread on being illegal.
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A big penalty won't heal a leg...
…but it might stop it from happening in the future. This wasn’t a freak accident, or two people going for a 50:50 a little too aggressively, or mere physical play…
This was a guy who felt wronged by a no-call and made an extremely dangerous and vindictive play. It’s the reckless vigilantism that’s a problem here, and an extreme example may be the only thing that averts similar retaliation in the future when a player’s seeing red.
I don't think he's distraught over the break
as he is about his pending sentence and fine. I bet he’s sick to his stomach about that more than anything.
by chrisperry1983 on Apr 26, 2011 2:28 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
There is no evidence that the suspension is causing him any issues
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How is there any evidence for either motivation?
I mean who diagnosed Mullan’s tummy ache, who proved it’s real, and who shed light on its root cause?
by FWBrodie on Apr 26, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well, yes
There is evidence linked above that it is about the injury
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I'm saying this is a basic human reaction/emotion.
Speaking from experience when I have f’ed something up, the wrath of whatever higher power I’m dealing with is what makes me sick to my stomach.. I screwed up something at work one time a few years ago. I got over the screw up, but it was the waiting on the outcome that freaked me out.
by chrisperry1983 on Apr 26, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ok, but
I’d wager that you didn’t seriously injure another human being as a result of your screw-up (I may be wrong – making assumptions about your job here, I guess). This is a bit different.
True
Potential injury is not a job risk of mine :) And I totally get what you are implying. But, here is my thought process behind this. He’s a physical player. Not quite a dirty player..I would consider Kovalenko a dirty player. His post-break reaction was “I’ve done it before, I’ll do it again” to summarize. Not exactly sympathetic. Now that the injury has happened and things have settled, the new reality for him is he’s going to get hit with a big fine and a big suspension. This is now what he’s confronted with, which is a scary situation for anyone. I have seen athletes backtrack later on (especially after making non-apology apologies) and do this kind of thing. Is it what he’s doing? I don’t know, but my gut says it is. Just because Gary Smith says he’s distraught over the injury doesn’t mean I have to take his word for it without a grain of salt.
by chrisperry1983 on Apr 27, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks
I’m not very good at explaining thoughts most of the time. This being one of those times.
by chrisperry1983 on Apr 27, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
I think the type of player Mullan is is stated in the article by Steve Davis linked by Dizzo a few days ago
From Steve Davis: "Is Mullan a dirty player, one prone to cheap shots? No. But his aggressiveness is notoriously weapons grade. He’s the very embodiment of MLS’ highly deserved reputation as a “physical league,” which is really just a candy-coated euphemism for an overly combative league where pugnacity frequently rules over technical ability, where hustle and brute force often trump the beautiful game.
That’s Mullan. He has always played on the edge, consistently straddling the line between the legal and illegal. Players around MLS respect Mullan’s work rate and his do-or-die mentality. But they’ll also tell you privately that he can cross the line into reckless behavior and that he’s fortunate something like this hasn’t happened before.
Mullan works ferociously; that part is commendable. But he also plays with a chip on his shoulder, always quick to scream and complain when the whistles don’t go his way. And he has always been prone to emotional overreaction when he doesn’t get the calls — which is exactly what happened Friday."
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/steve_davis/04/25/mls.week6/index.html
I read that article and I agree
I think that is a good description of him. To me, that validates what I wrote about Mullan not quite being a dirty player. He has always played on the edge, his aggressiveness is weapons grade, etc.
by chrisperry1983 on Apr 27, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it validates what you wrote as well
While players do not say he is dirty, they are not comfortable with how he plays either. They basically said he was an accident waiting to happen.
Last name is Mullan (not Mullan)
We’ve all (or at least I’m sure a fair number of us have) been in situations where we’ve been far more out of control than we realised, and it could be someone showed him the tackle and he has realised how dangerous it was. If this is the case and he’s distraught over his lack of self-control in the situation handle it similar to the Rothlisberger situation where a conditional reduction of the suspension can be set in place.
(In theory) we don’t show leniency to criminals simply because they say they regret their actions, but we do provide for reduction of sentence if they show the regret is real. That dangerous play has finally caught up to the league makes it all the more important for a precendent to be set. Setting a precedent that large penalties can be reduced via some recompence I believe is also a good precedent to set.
Nos audietis in somniis
Nos audietis in altum
That is, not Mullen
Nos audietis in somniis
Nos audietis in altum
Dammit, reply fail
Nos audietis in somniis
Nos audietis in altum
by Seattle Coug on Apr 26, 2011 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks for the catch
considering i spelled it right over a dozen times I think the error was minor
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Far too minor to warrant the number of posts it took me to actually note it :)
Nos audietis in somniis
Nos audietis in altum
by Seattle Coug on Apr 26, 2011 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm just here
To keep this string of thought going.
"But who would listen to Little old me anyway?"
-by thehemogoblin
by Little old me on Apr 27, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Not buying it.
If only Steve Zakuani could fix his leg with a few counseling sessions. Even if Mullan suddenly feels guilty, you couldn’t convince me they haven’t exaggerated the situation in an effort to leverage the disciplinary committee. No different than a criminal standing in front of a judge who all of the sudden has seen the light and wants to turn his life around. Should have thought of that before you maimed Steve Zakuani’s leg. Throw the book at him and hit him where it hurts.
Sorry to be the cynic here...
…but I recall the classical distinction in moral philosophy between “contrition” and “attrition.” Contrition means “I’m sorry (that I did it).” Attrition means “I’m sorry (that I got caught and am going to be punished for it).” According to Roman Catholic church law, for example, contrition for one’s sins can earn pardon, attrition for one’s sins cannot.
I have little or no doubt that Mullan’s “repentance” is of the attrition variety. The contrast between his behavior on Friday night (everything from his disregard of Zakuani while he threw up his hands and protested the card to his blasĂ© “I’d do it again” admission) demonstrated clearly that he didn’t give a damn about what he did to Steve. It was only when he realized that he was now Public Enemy #1 in MLS that he suddenly decided he was “distraught.”
I’m reminded of the Soviet pilot who, in 1983, shot down the Korean Air 747. In the days and weeks that followed, Soviet news sources revealed that the pilot was “devastated” by the event, and had been experiencing mental problems of the PTSD variety. Later, after the U.S.S.R. fell, we learned that the only thing about which he’d been “devastated” was that he didn’t get the bonus he thought he deserved for successfully carrying out the mission. I’m sure that Mullan’s mental trauma will come to a similar end once he gets only a three-game suspension.
by regnaD kciN on Apr 26, 2011 2:40 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
"I've made that tackle a hundred times before and I'll probably make it again"
I personally think that Mullan SHOULD suffer under the weight of his conscience. I am not a religious person, but I DO believe that we are meant to suffer when we have harmed or done wrong to others.
I have certainly felt sick to my stomach because of things I have done plenty of times.
I don’t think Mullan should suffer for what he has done because I hate the guy, or because I am being vindictive… I think he should suffer because he did a horrible thing, and I feel that way about anyone…
...that's MISTER Keller to you!!!
by malcontentjake on Apr 26, 2011 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions
contrition/attrition
you’re a little mistaken about what the catholic church teaches about contrition and attrition. more accurately, the church tells us that while god doesn’t immediately pardon someone who repents out of attrition like he does for the perfectly contrite, attrition nevertheless makes one available to receive the sacrament of penance. so even an impure motivation like the fear of punishment is an acceptable starting place for forgiveness. thus, penance functions as the mechanism that guides the penitent toward a better, more perfect repentance.
that’s sort of pedantic, i know. but i think that it’s also a good way of thinking about how we might respond to mullan. it’s impossible for anyone other than mullan to truly know his inner motivations. but, like most of us non-saintly, plain old human beings, we might reasonably assume that his motivations don’t constitute perfect contrition. of course, that’s also where the vast majority of us begin. thankfully, it’s not where we have to end.
even though i’ll never be a fan of his, i think that if he feels any sort of remorse at all, that ought to be nurtured and encouraged so that it can grow into something better, not condemned for not starting out as the sort of remorse we desire. what he did was terrible. but not so terrible, i don’t think, that he should be denied the chance to reform.
by murmur000 on Apr 26, 2011 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
well, I'm certainly not Catholic
But like I have been saying I do believe quite strongly that we are meant to suffer for the bad things we have done… and by “suffer” I am not talking about hell or prison or physical punishment meant instead the mental anguish I have been referring to when I say “weight of conscience”.
You will also find that most belief systems have something that accounts for this, and an associated methodology for “coming clean” as it were and cleansing your spirit/soul. These concepts exist because they have been an intrinsic part of the human experience since we decided to crawl out of the trees, and they will be until the end of time.
So I agree with the tenor of this assessment that even though Mullan was not necessarily CONTRITE that, through this “suffering” of attrition, he can perhaps achieve enlightenment…
and by this path he may realize he has, indeed, not made this tackle before, and really ought not to make it again…
...that's MISTER Keller to you!!!
by malcontentjake on Apr 26, 2011 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm happy to hear he's trying to arrange a visit to Zak
I’m going to assume he wants to apologize in person which is the right thing to do. That’s much more important in my mind than any press statements he could make at this time.
by Dizzo on Apr 26, 2011 2:41 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 1 recs
yeah. in person is definitely more sincere
anyone can say im sorry to a camera but saying it to someones face is a different story.
so bravo to him.
Man, people go to some really amazing lengths to justify their hatred and desire to demonize a person.
by Aaron Campeau on Apr 26, 2011 2:44 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't think people are having to go to great lengths on this one
It can be reasonably questioned which is his actual state of mind given the dichotomy of his responses. i lean towards believing him to actually be distraught, but I fully understand the people leaning the other way as well.
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by Seattle Coug on Apr 26, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't.
I think it’s shockingly cynical and indicative of a purey black-and-white worldview.
People are, of course, not entitled to feel bad for Mullan. But the belief that this is some sort of publicity stunt designed to garner sympathy is a fairly distasteful view to take of the situation.
by Aaron Campeau on Apr 26, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I wasn't measuring the credibility of his alleged emotional state
I just don’t care. Or more to the point, I hope he is genuinely remorseful. But that doesn’t change my vitriol towards him as a player. I’m not going to aim a bag of urine at him but will always boo and curse lustily on sight or reference.
by lemonverbena on Apr 26, 2011 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh yeah.
Don’t get me wrong, I am not a fan.
by Aaron Campeau on Apr 26, 2011 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions
I definitly fall in the long suspension to clean up game camp
But I don’t think Mullan is not genuinly distraught about the play. I’ve been involved in contact during sports that hurt another player and I came away psychically crushed by the implications of a “clean hit”. People train to play on the edge and then have to deal with the consequences for a long time.
Still should get a 10 game or longer suspension.
He might be really this upset over breaking Zak's leg
but given his poor apology post-game, and his up in arms attitude after he commited the foul I find it hard to believe. I want to believe him, but Mullan hasn’t given me any reason to be convinced yet.
If Zakuani eventually writes something about how Mullan wrote him a letter or apologizes in person or something like that I might then start to believe Mullan actually feels remorse. Until then I’m not enitrely convinced, and however he feels that shouldn’t influence the decision from MLS.
Let him do something constructive
Seems like everyone who wears the rave green has weighed in on what a suitable penalty should be. Everything from “Out as long as Zak is” to “Lifetime ban”. These all massage our need for vengeance.
I’ve said this before on the forums (Sounders and Rapids) Mullan should be assigned community service to Steve’s Non Profit Organization. http://kingdom-hope.org/
Aside from becoming Steve’s bond servant, this seems like a the most sensible penalty along with suspensions and fines (which by the way should go to Kingdom Hope)
If he truly is feeling remorse, this is a way he could put his money where his mouth is.
by arjaylee54 on Apr 26, 2011 4:00 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't doubt that he feels awful
But I also think that’s a perfectly appropriate way for him to feel and shouldn’t really influence the punishment.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 26, 2011 4:01 PM PDT reply actions 6 recs
So let us get real
He feels awful. I hope so! If not, then we are talking about a real problem individual. He didn’t mean to break Zakuani’s leg, but that doesn’t matter. We are talking about one of the most awful injuries in American sports over the las 20 years. This wasn’t an accidental foul. It was a brutal attempt, with no worry of the safety of the other player. Punishment should be swift and strong. Think about all the players around the world that are watching this and thinking that this league must be pretty bad. The attack on a technical player like Zakuani, will only detour many players aspirations of playing in the US. God Bless Zakuani. God Bless Mullen, as he is only human. Let’s hope he truly feels the incompassing guilt, that he deserves to feel and hope he learns from this and does good to many in the future.
Not that it should affect the suspension
But if you watched the video of him reacting to the red card after the match, where they pulled the “i’d do it again” it was pretty clear he felt the full eight of what had happened and felt terrible about it, even if his words didn’t really reflect that. Looked like the guy was about to start crying at any moment. Obviously could have been more tactful with his answers and should be made an example of, but I don’t think he’s the monster a lot of us are making him out to be.
by kjogel on Apr 26, 2011 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I just found the video and came here to say the same thing.
He looks about to tear up a couple times.
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by Seattle Coug on Apr 26, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Tongue tied
My reaction to the video was that the words coming out of his mouth didn’t match what he was trying to say. My sense was that he was trying to say something about playing physical but fair and it came out all wrong.
by Abbott Smith on Apr 26, 2011 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I think you're right...
But I think it would have been really smart of him to clarify those statements since he obviously now knows how they’ve been received.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 26, 2011 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions
Context is everything
I watched the Mullan post-game interview on Saturday morning. I was still angry with the injury and his attitude right after the foul. I keyed in in his words and got even more angry.
Now I can rewatch the video and appreciate how shaken-up he appears. Only be because its been a couple days, and the surgery has gone successfully.
All this put into the context of his coaches comments and I can start to feel some empathy for Brian Mullan where before I had none. That said, for the good of the game, I hope they give him a long suspension (5-8 games).
by Dizzo on Apr 26, 2011 5:41 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Please excuse the typos
Way too long a comment for my iPhone
by Dizzo on Apr 26, 2011 5:42 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't want to sound too dismissive here.
But what is done is done. We all deeply regret what happened to Stevie Z and wish him nothing but a speedy and total recovery. As fans we are all left to deal with how we feel about Mullan and his remorse or lack there of. I know that I get swept up in the emotion of venting and reacting to everyone’s opinions.
IMHO, those first 3 minutes illustrate so much of what frustrates me as a fan of both the sounders and by extension, MLS. First you have Wahl using both hands and arms over/around Mullan with no call from the referee. Mullan flopping to the ground to make a point or induce a free kick. Mullan irate about not getting the call and then Mullan spitting his dummy out and reacting in such a violent manner as to cause a terrible injury to a fellow professional.
None of us follow the game to watch players hold, tug and push their opponents to get an advantage. None of us pay good money to see players flop, whine, time waste or kick each other all over the park. We go the see the excitement of a goal or a near miss, the frustration of a goal conceded or the memory of Steve11 abusing a Frankie Hejduk (repeatedly):):):).
There is unparalleled interest in the game right now with several strong and growing fan base’s outside of NY and LA . MLS, the players and Garber need to get this right with regard to how they react not only to Mullan’s further punishment, but to clearly demostrate what type of product they want to sell to players, referees and the fans. We need to protect skillful play on the ball, we need to reduce the gamesmanship and the pushing and jostling that occurs and detracts from every game.
"Kia Kaha" -Live strong
by Ravengreen on Apr 26, 2011 4:55 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
A few things...
As a preface, I was livid on Friday during the match, distraught at Zak’s injury, and enraged by Mullan’s post-match comments. One look at my Twitter feed and you’ll see that I’m not kidding. But I feel a little better today knowing Mullan seems to be truly affected by what he did.
As some have said here and elsewhere, I believe Mullan deserves the benefit of the doubt on this. One of the things I learned about him this weekend is that during his career he has been notoriously media shy and rarely gives interviews. I personally think that some of what I took for arrogance in the video of his post-match comments was simply awkwardness and an inability to articulate what he was feeling.
I am not defending what he did. The tackle was uncalled for and he will be punished for it. I think the Rapids organization should be blamed for not encouraging him to make a formal statement (via press release) that communicated to the public just how bad he was feeling so that fans and media didn’t stew for three days and build up more anger and confusion.
Just like Zakuani said via Twitter, we can’t go back and change things. What’s done is done. At this point, I think an ideal outcome would be for Mullan and Zakuani to talk and for those two alone to hash things out. If they can come to some sort of peace together about what happened, then that’s good enough for me.
So, for now, I think the supporters groups and fans should turn their energy toward supporting Zakuani instead of vilifying Mullan.
by ryanhealy on Apr 26, 2011 5:02 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
It sounds like you're saying we should just give Mullan a pass for what happened.
That because, according to his coach, not the man himself, he feels “distraught” about what has happened and has tried to reach out to make amends.
To quote another commenter on these boards, “What a profoundly stupid thing to say.”
Don't think Ryan is saying at all what you say he says
“So, for now, I think the supporters groups and fans should turn their energy toward supporting Zakuani instead of vilifying Mullan.” Does not mean forgive and forget, it means let’s not focus our energy in a negative way.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Apr 27, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Not at all.
I said:
I am not defending what he did. The tackle was uncalled for and he will be punished for it.
Trust me, I am not a fan of Brian Mullan. However, I am a fan of rational thinking.
It was more a caution against over simplifying.
You can take the most extreme part of anything anyone says and conflate it. Rational thinking says, Mullan should be suspended for a long time. Rational thinking says that Mullan’s apology was in the best tradition of any politician caught with his hand in the kitty.
I was irritated because you took one passage someone wrote, clearly in anger, out of a longer comment and basically made their whole comment about that one thing. Yes, we can only speak about what we know about Brian Mullan. But what we know about him is that he ended the season of one of our best and most loved players, and expressed almost zero remorse for it at the appropriate time. It’s okay to be angry about that. It’s even okay to express your anger about that. It doesn’t mean that the “forgive and forget” people are wrong, but it doesn’t mean the angry people are wrong either.
No, some of the angry people are clearly wrong
one idiot said that he should be hung on a cross
another idiot said that he should have his legs broken
the list goes on, it has littered twitter, facebook, forums and has been cleaned up here.
There is a significant amount of Sounders fans who have gone from reasonably angry to irrational and possibly illegal.
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Okay, sure, whatever.
I guess I spend too much time on the civilized (forcibly or otherwise) corners of the internet like S@H, hadn’t seen much of the really bombastic stuff in the last couple days.
One more thing...
I’m pretty disappointed ECS appears to be dismissing this report entirely. It’s an extremely cynical perspective and as the largest and most important supporters group, I would expect better from them.
I think it's pretty hard to beleive that Mullan doesn't feel horrible
He’s human. Of course he feels horrible. No matter whether he personally believes it was truly accidental or due to his own premeditated malice, whether he thinks that’s a tackle he’s done often before or now feels differently, I’d be disturbed if he DIDN’T feel a strong sense of remorse over what happened to Zakuani. Only somebody who is truly psychotic wouldn’t feel remorse. Having caused that kind of injury is something he’ll have to learn to live with and work through.
I honestly hope Mullan does work through it and he and the rest of MLS get a little less physical as a result, having had a first row seat as to what can happen.
by Nevtelen on Apr 26, 2011 5:35 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
My view
I am sad Zak is hurt. I am angry with Mullan. I am happy that Mullan feels bad and believe he really does. I do not know him but only a monster would not feel about that and I doubt he is a monster.
I am not christian but I generally share the forgiveness aspect of the religion when someone feel bad for doing wrong. I do not expect others to but I think it is the best route to go.
With all that said, sports is sports and I will boo him like crazy when/if he comes to seattle.
Scoreboards, not billboards.
Regular season, not pre-season.
Let's not be "Seattle Sports Fans" on this
There is way too much peace, love, and understanding on this thread. At least, it is misplaced compassion.
Let’s be clear. Mullan’s actions robbed Zakuani, the Sounders, and, least of all, us. More generally, it was the actions of the Rapids and the neglect of the MLS and US Soccer to promote skillful play that robbed us.
There is a very real possibility that Zakuani will never be the same. Given the fact that Zakuani was on path to a DP slot in the MLS if not a job in Europe, Mullan could have cost Zakuani millions of dollars. That’s not hyperbole. I’ll say it again. Mullan may have cost Zakuani millions of dollars.
Secondly, the Sounders have spent millions of dollars constructing a team that can contend for the MLS title and beyond. Zakuani was, without doubt, a cornerstone of that team. Mullan’s actions have cost the Sounders, at a minimum, hundreds of thousands of dollars in terms of lost productivity and damage to the product on the field.
Finally, those of us who buy tickets for the Sounders have been robbed of the opportunity to see Zakuani play. Let’s also be clear that it was the revenue from our tickets paid for Zakuani’s salary, as well as indirectly supporting the MLS. Mullan’s “red mist moment” directly deprived us of our investment in the team. And if the team goes loses games that it might have won had Zak been on the field then that is another cost.
Mullan now says he has his fee-fees hurt. Well screw him. His claimed remorse isn’t going to return Zak’s career, return the Sounders to full strength, or return the investment that 30,000+ season ticket holders made in the Sounders.
That said, if the league REALLY wanted to send to a message they would ignore Mullan entirely and go after the coaches and GMs who tolerate and promote “thug” football. Rather than penalizing Mullan why not throw the book at the Rapids:
- Give the Sounders their 1st round draft pick next year
- Fine the Rapids’ the amount of Zak’s salary for the rest of the year
- Give the Sounders salary cap relief so the club can truly make an effort at replacing Zak so that the club, and its supporters, have a true opportunity to win the MLS and advance in the various club tournaments
The league could suspend Mullan for life, and it won’t make a bit of difference for the MLS, Zakuani, the Sounders, or the fans if the style of play in the MLS doesn’t also change.
Sadly, my guess is that Mullan gets a slap on the wrist and nothing at all will happen to the Rapids. And the day after Mullan retires there will be another thug right behind him getting an MLS contract. And one day we will get to hear how that guy “wasn’t a bad guy” and how he “feels bad” because he got his fee-fees hurt due to a non-call and decided to resolve his issue by breaking some bones.
As for the issues of this thread regarding whether or not Mullan is eligible for compassion and forgiveness, I say he is definitely eligible for compassion. When you look at it, Mullan clearly has issues and who really does need to seek professional help.
He (a) lost control of his emotions because things didn’t go his way on the field and who is now (b) claiming to seek counseling and to be unable to play because he can’t control his emotions. He is clearly someone who needs help, and bully for him if he is truly seeking it. Yet people as clearly unstable as Mullan probably don’t need to have high-pressure jobs like being a professional athlete.
Moreover, if Mullan can assault someone in front of thousands of people and a national television office, who knows what he is capable of behind closed doors. One need only look at the NFL to see how violence on the field carries over into violence off the field.
So while Mullan may deserve our compassion let’s not forget what he did nor the price we all paid due to his presence in the league which hired him. Mullan may feel bad today, and the league may truly regret this past weekend, but if fundamental changes aren’t made then it will soon be business as usual and our “forgiveness” and “compassion” will have been thrown back in our faces.
So, yes, suspend Mullan. Frankly he needs to be out for as long as it takes for mental health professionals to get him the help he needs. But throw the book at the real culprits – the clubs and the soccer executives who are all too eager to promote and protect thugs like Mullan.
Uh...what?
I can’t believe you just implied Mullan is guilty of domestic violence. What a profoundly stupid thing to say.
There is a segment of the fan base that really needs to stop with the hysterics and regain its composure because some of what I’ve been reading lately is embarrassing.
by ryanhealy on Apr 27, 2011 7:24 AM PDT up reply actions 11 recs
Agreed!
As others have said, what’s done is done. It’s just a sad situation all around. I’m not advocating forgive and forget, but the hysterics and witch hunt mentality need to stop. It’s making the fan base look vengeful and blood thirsty and it is getting embarrassing. Mullan will get his punishment today and then it’s done. Then what? The punishment of one man will not change what was done and bring back Steve nor will it set an example and stop the rough play in MLS. I for one am more concerned with Steve getting better and returning than the punishment of Mullan.
I’m also equally as concerned about the cap relief situation. I find it ridiculous that you can lose a player for the year and get… nothing? Just a roster spot? Makes it even worse when it’s one of your higher paid stars. How are you supposed to replace Zakuani or Ferriera with a 40k player? You can’t. That’s something that when the whole punishment thing is over with, we need to turn our attention to and maybe start lobbying MLS for.
by SoundersRiot on Apr 27, 2011 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
It is with regret . . .
“It is with regret that my comment resulted in the injury of Brian and I am deeply sorry to Brian and all those impacted by his injury.”
Fair enough, I should not have implied that someone capable of taking out his frustration on the soccer field by breaking bones would also be capable of taking out his frustration off the field in a similar matter. And perhaps I read too much into his ham-fisted non-apologies and saw someone incapable of true contrition. Far be it from me to demonize others. Seriously.
I honestly don’t care about Mullan or when he plays again. No amount of punishment for Mullan is going to fix Zak’s leg. So who cares what Mullan’s punishment is. Let him play this weekend. It makes no difference to Zak, the Sounders, or its fans.
I also don’t care about “messages” that Mullan’s punishment will send the league. If the MLS wants to send a “message” it will take control of its referees and punish the teams that promote thug football.
Setting Zak’s issue aside momentarily, the crux of the issue is that current MLS rules provide zero relief to the Sounders for what happened. We – and Dallas – are now marching into the rest of the season completely hamstrung. We aren’t even getting cap relief to attempt to sign a suitable replacement.
If this had happened to Donovan or Henri you can bet that the MLS would be changing the rules to make sure NY and LA got to sign a replacement.
It’s time for Seattle sports fans to stand up for themselves. If demanding that MLS take steps to make the Sounders whole for the egregious actions of one of its employees is a witch hunt, then pass the tar, feathers, and pitchforks.
It happened to Beckham last year
They got no relief
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
But
Beckham injury wasn’t result of another player’s action though.
And he was playing for AC Milan when it happened
But to Dave’s point, the Galaxy should have gotten cap relief. Given how tight the MLS cap is, this seems like an obvious fix. Surprised this idea isn’t already in place.
Rules like that are really difficult to enforce
Plus, it would only help the high revenue teams that have money left over in the budget after they meet the salary cap. Some of the lower revenue teams couldn’t afford to pay the injured player and his replacement even if they had extra cap room to do so.
They could provide some cap relief via allocation dollars
AFAIK, allocation dollars come from the league so they would be useful for any team regardless of financial situation. They could also be packaged together for trading purposes to try and get a replacement mid-season. Even a small amount like $20,000 in allocation could be useful for packaging a trade or signing a journeyman type player.
It's been mentioned before
but unfortunately this is a huge incentive to fake injuries.
If I’m tired of Player A because he doesn’t contribute to the team and don’t want to play him anymore, I’d be better off conspiring with Player A to fake a nagging hamstring injury or something and get cap relief to sign someone else. We’ve already seen some injury list shenanigans on the Sounders just to get the extra roster spot.
Obviously, nobody can fake what Zakuani went through, but it’d be hard to set a standard.
Nos Audietis
by sidereal on Apr 27, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Time To Backpedal
When I broke my tibia, the guy who was involved in my “breakage” met me at the clinic and sat there with me in the waiting room. He emailed to make sure I was OK. Mullen should have left the pitch and gone directly to the hospital to “support” Zakuani in any way he could. The gesture would have spoke volumes!
Mullan needs to stop and think before he opens his mouth or does anything else. The ice is very thin where he’s standing. He has handled this whole thing wrong from the moment he flung his hands up in the air disgruntled that Wahl wasn’t called for a foul.
Smith is a fool if he even brings Mullan to Seattle. It was a terrible and malicious tackle. Maybe he didn’t intend to break some bones, but he clearly didn’t intend to go for the ball.
by hulagrrrl on Apr 27, 2011 12:47 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

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