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Gamethread for Champions League Final

The game is on Fox, as in Q13/113. That means live, broadcast HD soccer in middle of the day. Last year's UEFA Champions League Final drew a "massive" rating of 1.0 (basically equal to MLS Cup Final on cable). This year with teams much more well known in the United States the ratings should be better, but for all the talk about how popular soccer is in America, it would help if people actually watched it when it is offered at the highest club level.

If you are a partisan of one of the clubs SB Nation has the place for you to go. Busby Babe covers Manchester United, this season's friendly opponent while Barca Blaugranes are the place for Barcelona action. If you root for those teams please give them some of your attention. It shouldn't surprise but both places have Seattle based writers.

Those that are just interested in the match and like our community can chat about it here, and read the neutral look from SB Nation Soccer's extraordinary preview. Pregame is at 11AM, kick at 11:45AM here locally. Tune into Fox, the big Fox.

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Man United Lineup

Right to Left in 4-4-1-1

Edwin van der Sar
Fabio da Silva, Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic, Patrice Evra
Antonio Valencia, Michael Carrick, Ryan Giggs Park Ji-Sung
Wayne Rooney
Javier Hernandez

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 11:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Barcelona Lineup

4-3-3

Victor Valdes
Eric Abidal, Javier Mascherano, Gerard Pique, Dani Alves
Sergio Busquets, Xavi Hernandez, Andres Iniesta
David Villa, Lionel Messi, Pedro

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 11:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Puyol's fitness is apparently in question

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just turned this on

This is ridiculous.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 11:22 AM PDT reply actions  

They're talking about Giggs's sex scandal

And how it’s really important but it’s going to help Man Utd.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

this is the same thing they would do for ANY major US sporting even with similar issue

Doesn’t make it right, but it is typical. why should we expect different from soccer?

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

It wouldn't get the same play in the US

Because we don’t have their tabloids. We’d get coverage, but not like that. Brit tabloids are absolute filth and garbage.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 11:31 AM PDT reply actions  

Actually this has been tested

See Eugene Robinson at the Super Bowl – it was the lead story

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Giggs was the week prior

and a much more important player

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

He also didn't commit a crime...

He’s testifying/suing. He cheated on wife. Not propositioned an undercover cop.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just look at what ABC/ESPN did

somehow they managed great ratings without being this insulting.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 11:33 AM PDT reply actions  

Friedel's accent

is really weird — he’s picked up a Midlands twang but it almost sounds German.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 11:34 AM PDT reply actions  

Now he's going to Liverpool

So who knows what he’s going to sound like. FWIW, Liverpudlian is still my favorite accent (though Belfast is good too).

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wynalda covers the bases

He basically just predicted a Man Utd win, a draw, and a Barcelona win. That about covers it.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 11:36 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm guessing

The refereeing with be just a TOUCH better than in MLS.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeah actual game!

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 11:45 AM PDT reply actions  

early high pressure leads to turnover

normally Barca knows how to pass

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 11:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Anyone catch the TFC-Union game?

Absolute horror-fest on the defensive side for both teams 6-2 loss for TFC. Winter’s going to be on the hot-seat again.

by Dizzo on May 28, 2011 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Letting the Union tally a half dozen

should put one on the hot seat.

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

It’s just a shame for their fans to stare down the face of yet another failed rebuilding attempt. TFC looked like absolute crap.

by Dizzo on May 28, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

winter in hotseat?

First I’ve heard of this. Seems like season going about as could be expected…

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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

He's been getting plenty of bad press

1. Poor play by TFC
2. kicking the reporters out of the dressing room
3. Trading DeRo (best player not the roster
4. Pushing officials to call the Canadian Campionship game this week

by Dizzo on May 28, 2011 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is any of that "hotseat" tho?

That implies his job is at risk

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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

I have no idea if the management is ready to ditch him yet. Still, it’s not a pleasant experience for Winter right now. I’m sure he’s wishing he had stuck with Ajax at this point.

by Dizzo on May 28, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Berbatov supposedly disconsolate over not being in the 18

Start the SSFC transfer rumors!

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

You know those times when Jordan's teammates just watched him and forgot to actually play

Yeah, that just happened with Messi on the ball. Stunning

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 12:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Villa's not too shabby either

He finally turned Vidic for a sec there.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Only because Michael Strahan told me

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

They need about 1/100th the space

And they don’t need to dink around with three touches before their next move.

For me the amazing thing isn’t the triangles, it’s how tight they are — successfully passing while completely surrounded.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, the spacing and awareness are something else

Especially jolting after watching a bad MLS game this morning

by Dizzo on May 28, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like on the goal Pedro just scored?

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

What an atmospnere....it's so cliche' to say, but it's electric

After a sketchy start, Barca has settled…..was a fun match this will be….

Life's what happens while you're making other plans

by LGoofus on May 28, 2011 12:09 PM PDT reply actions  

By the way, every time i hear that Messi is just 23 my brain does a triple--take

I know he started exceptionally young, but still…. only 23 and small….

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by LGoofus on May 28, 2011 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

That's how you pass and finish off a goal......

Life's what happens while you're making other plans

by LGoofus on May 28, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fucito's only 24 and small....lol

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by LGoofus on May 28, 2011 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Levesque is only 30 and hirsute

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

i almost spit my soda out....lol

Life's what happens while you're making other plans

by LGoofus on May 28, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

United is looking quite outclassed

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's nice with skilled players

who don’t have to desperately lunge at 50% of balls, ala MLS.

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

FOuntain of Wayne!

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:18 PM PDT reply actions  

and just like that....wow

Life's what happens while you're making other plans

by LGoofus on May 28, 2011 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Nice answer

Rooney doesn’t even need his teammates to pass it, just bounce it off their thigh and go.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Halftime

Find those mute buttons.

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Too soon!

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

who needs to be effective on corners?

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Barca look the better team

…but they ALWAYS look the better team even when they lose.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Messi is so supremely unselfish ...

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by LGoofus on May 28, 2011 12:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Who had 49th

in the Dani Alves Rolling Around Like He’s Been Shot pool?

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:51 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

bliss....wow

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by LGoofus on May 28, 2011 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Holy fuck

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah

as beautiful as that was, United defended him poorly there.

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chicarito?

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

He means Rooney

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh

Yes, probably. I hope so. I mean, I hope they don’t score at all but if they do I hope it’s the Mexican, not the action figure.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep

Chicharito is cute. Rooney is…not.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Statistic of the year!

“Every time Man Utd have played in white shirts this year they have conceded at least two goals”.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 12:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Meaningless fluff not restricted to the Fox booth apparently

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

on the replay of Messi's goal, Vidic (#15) was quicker to cover his nuts than to cover the space

I know it’s slow-mo ….just was amusing

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by LGoofus on May 28, 2011 12:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Only two shots by United

And Sir Alex doesn’t have many options on the bench.

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Michael Owen!

(bzzt)

Could Old Whiskyface have made a mistake not taking Berbatov?

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not that it matters

If they can’t get it forward.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who comes off for Owen though?

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not bad for a guy only a year younger than Keller

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just stunning that Barca is doing this against a GREAT team

It isn’t as if United are poor. Sure, they are playing poorly, but it due to the greatness of Messi and team.

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

holy cow----they are just an excellent team

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by LGoofus on May 28, 2011 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Did Villa just do that?

A chip there, in those circumstances?

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Your eyes don't deceive

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

So beautiful

I love an artful dink way more than a rocket shot.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Start the busses

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Amazed at the space Barca gets

What they do with it is obviously amazing, but how they create and get it is almost as much so

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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 1:12 PM PDT reply actions  

been watching that to

ManU almost looks like they are standing still sometimes in contrast to Barca’s movement…it’s lovely to watch….

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by LGoofus on May 28, 2011 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

For all the talk I was reading before the match

Chicharito has been a non-factor.

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 1:14 PM PDT reply actions  

He dribbled out of touch

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

A more experienced player

would work himself to the ball. He’s doing a lot of standing around waiting.

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

that's true

He’s kind of lonely over there. Still think he’s going to be the best player in the Prem in a few years. Dammit.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention CONCACAF

Then we’ll all be cursing.

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hah. No

He will never, ever be the best player in the Premier League, despite being a very neat little striker

by Graham MacAree on May 28, 2011 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Scholes in

Now the fouling starts in earnest.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 1:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Very reassuring

To hear that Man Utd “will never give up”. Plan to carry on playing until the end of the match.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 1:29 PM PDT reply actions  

It's been real

and very enjoyable to spend the afternoon with you all, but this one’s in the book.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 1:33 PM PDT reply actions  

6PM Sounders v RSL

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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, yeah.

I GUESS I could watch. If nothing else is going on.

by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Later gang

You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.

by 108Ultra on May 28, 2011 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

abidal with the captain's armband

at the trophy presentation. xavi must have given it to him to wear. classy. so happy for abidal. what a warrior.

by murmur000 on May 28, 2011 2:13 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

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