Seattle Sounders at Real Salt Lake - Gamethread
by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 4:30 PM PDT
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Real Salt Lake is a dominating home side, not losing in their last 29 MLS games there. They've ridden the ability to win at Rio Tinto Stadium to solid runs in MLS play and a great performance in the CONCACAF Champions League. This season they have snagged 17 points in only 7 played lead by a strong defense that has only given up 2 goals on the season. With key losses due to both injury and Gold Cup call-ups Jason Kreis will have to count on Nick Rimando, Jamison Olave and Nat Borchers even more than usual.
The Seattle Sounders are clearly a middle of the road team right now with their 17 points in 13 played. While the defense has been solid the long stretch of injuries (finally over?) has hurt the offense even more than expected. Sigi Schmid's side does generally well on the road, but will continue to try new things to unlock the door to a promised land of about 1.5 goals per game.
The game is on KONG 6/16/106 and KIRO 97.3 FM at 6PM
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Tactical Keys
- Forward Interplay
- Controlling wide spaces
- Defensive Communication
Player Matchups
- Forwards v Nick Rimando
- Fabian Espindola v Jeff Parke
- Brad Evans v Chris Wingert
Statistics
Traditional
Goals
Assists
Save %
GAA
RSL
Two (2)
Warner (3)
Rimando (92%)
Rimando (0.29)
Sounders
Evans (4)
Two (3)
Keller (73%)
Keller (0.92)
Advanced
PP90
Shot +/-
Team Shot +/- 90
Team ShOG +/- 90
RSL
Warner (1.09)
Olave (5.8)
2.25
0.38
Sounders
Evans (1.24)
Evans (3.59)
3.54
0.69
Opta
Duels Won %
Passing %
Opp Pass %
Possession
RSL
48.6
81.4
72.1
59.4
Sounders
51.8
71.6
72.5
51.5
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from josh
“Sigi Schmid dressed up tonight, with a sportscoat, tie and slacks. I’m yet to break down Sounders FC record based on his wardrobe choices…”
thats a first.
ECS under watchful eye of transit security in SLC
It would seem that foul language in public spaces is frowned upon in Utah
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and montero on the bench
from josh
Fredy Montero dropped to the bench tonight against Real Salt Lake. Not a huge surprise after Wednesday’s comments from coach Sigi Schmid.
Aaron with the Nostradamus there
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I think it Sigi trying to "send a message"
Which is silly, but he started the first two matches in the 7 day stretch, so it doesn’t bother me particularly
line up
Seattle starters: Keller, Riley, Parker, Ianni, Wahl, Evans, Alonso, Friberg, Fernandez, Fucito, Jaqua
I agree. I like it
Rosales in for Friberg, Montero in for Fucito later on. Melikes.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
And the Sounder at Heart writers preferred lineup gets how many correct?
Take your guesses!
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10 of 11 ain't bad
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 5:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
When you coming out here?
Oh, and that was our first time getting 10 I think.
We are struggling this season
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August 11th through August 16th...
Can’t wait, at least the snow melted.
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I liked your lineup
Would have preferred Montero to Friburg in CAM, but overall this looks strong.
Didn’t Fredy’s tear last year start after he was a sub for a game or two? Maybe that’s just what he needs – not the most mature player ever
by wannascribble on May 28, 2011 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Fredy's tear started about the same time Blaise Nkufo showed up to play target forward.
by BrianL on May 28, 2011 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd prefer Rosales over Friburg, even.
by wyte_lightning on May 28, 2011 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It will be either he or Montero depending on situation
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So I'm guessing that both FriBERG and Fucito will be subbed at some point
Any guesses on the third sub? Jaqua?
by wyte_lightning on May 28, 2011 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions
If we somehow snag a lead
A Hurtado for Jaqua sub wouldnt surprise me in the least
3rd sub is less likely to be planned
Could be a defendensive player
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I'd prefer Friberg over Friburg
:D
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Sonofabitch...
That’s what I get for just looking at the comment above me (no offense, wannascribble).
by wyte_lightning on May 28, 2011 5:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Fitness?
I doubt Rosales has more than 30 minutes of energy in his legs
by wannascribble on May 28, 2011 5:31 PM PDT up reply actions
im not surprised rosales isnt starting
but im surprised friberg is
97.3?
Why the hell am I hearing Larry Kudlow’s drivel? Where’s my pregame show? And benching your best player does not make you a better team. Period.
by _zorbthegeek on May 28, 2011 5:18 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
3 starts in 7 days is tough
even on a fit workhorse like Fredy
Pre-game is always 30 minutes prior
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Ah! That helps
This is my first time rocking the radio. Thanks.
by _zorbthegeek on May 28, 2011 5:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I'm really sad that my feed is behind the live game so I can't sit in the game thread :(
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I know some of my co-writers were on the opposite side of me on this
But are the questions of Fucito’s fitness gone now?
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Not trying to call anyone specifically out
But starting a second time, on short rest, at higher elevation has to show that fitness will no longer be a reason
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Probably a good call, but I'm looking forward to Montero subbing for him at half or something.
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Well, i've never said that Mike should start over Montero
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Right, I guess I was implying that we probably won't know, as he's not likely to finish either way.
Could be wrong though.
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Less than 1 year since he blew his ACL
3 games in 8 days would be rough
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please never call it a tie if teams are tied on points
when one has nearly twice as many games
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When I saw this in the standings I had to do a second take...
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So Lionel Messi looked good today..
Kinda weird to watch that game, then watch MLS, its so different.
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i had forgotten arlo was out
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He's really good, I don't get him most of the time anyway :(
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that's the crime
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
dang... 177 shots this season
you would think we would have more goals..
Should have like 20
with a normal conversion rate
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Wasn't KC in the same spot last year?
With tons of shots, but few goals. Then I remember them going on a tear that almost secured them a playoff spot. We could be in for some well deserved revision to the mean.
Beckerman's Hair!
It just gets worse and worse. I know it’s a cliche to say so but I HATE IT WITH THE FIRE OF A THOUSAND SUNS.
He's like a dirty dreaded Sampson
It’s the source of his CDM superpowers. In another note…I really feel De Guzman has really lost his mojo since taking clippers to his awesome Afro.
Pete Fewing says that Mike Fucito and Nate Jaqua played well in the open cup together
?
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Sounders didn't have qualifying last year
and Fucito was at Harvard in 2009
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he must mean ccl
They never played together in open cup
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions
The odd RSL lineup gives me some pause
Just in that it wouldn’t be on film and would lead to odd preparations
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only thing really odd is Alexandre at forward
I think Williams has been their CM in past couple games.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
nm grabavoy in middle
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions
he's a ESPN guy
has done MLS, apparently most famous for bowling?
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Was one of the earlier nationa MLS guys
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Wonder if he could...
partner with Arlo. Sometimes I (Arlo too?) wish he had someone to talk to during games
I dream of Arlo with a color guy
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Have talked to Arlo about this...
He only wants a color guy if he’s top notch. He has set bar very high.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
They hosted rugby nationals last week
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"Threat of rain"
How would the Sounders cope? They haven’t played in rain all year…
"there is a threat of rain at some point"
ummm. this is bad
What the hell was that call?
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No one knows what that call was
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I think hand ball
I sure didn’t see it.
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
handball? really?
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
crap my feed is well behind lol
Time to sign out, later guys!
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Come on Seattle
Fight and Win
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Is anyone as frustrated with the MDL Player as I am?
I’m getting an unreal amount of lockup/freezing with it. Even on lowest settings…
I'm regularly disappointed with the quality
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Initially I was convinced it was my ISP, but I'm on 15DL 2UP
There’s no way it could be that slow on a connection like that right?
i would think not
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Wahl with service
Jaqua wins the header but wide
I keep getting told he doesn’t win headers though
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There's been more space out there than I'm used to seeing
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Friberg has to continue that run
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Alvaro and Friberg on different pages
I’d love to get some stability some day
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odd Left footed entry on the right
and Parke wins the ball, on goal but blocked
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Great service from Wahl
Kinda missed that on Wednesday. From what I saw, service from corners was awful against FCD.
it was
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
yes, Wednesday was the low near entry technique
which usually doesn’t threaten.
Wahl has more variety of service
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I was seated a few rows back of the NW corner
And we took at least three AWFUL corners from that spot.
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
yeah i agree with the commentators
wahl would be a good person to have in the box
Mike that's a foul
and could be a card at times
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Man, RSL giving ball away much easier than Im' used to seeing
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i feel like they are hurt by losing some starters.
they lost 2 more this week
well 1.5
and both are forwards
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
That's what high pressure does
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dont' get those silly fouls that early
still 75 minutes and this team can’t play down a forward
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I see a yellow coming for Fucito
Persistent infringement. Hopefully later rather than sooner.
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Man, can we catch a break?
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Dare we blame the turf?
Though none of our catastrophic injuries have happened at home, maybe it has an effect on the minor tweaks?
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Well any plan for today's sub pattern is gone
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yeah.. friberg should need a sub which means we will probably see levesque come on for him
and im sure they planned on using neagle for him
FOCL
F’ our collective lives. Please be okay.
by _zorbthegeek on May 28, 2011 6:25 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
It will be a cold day in hell when a team from Seattle catches a break
by Rockerbaugh on May 28, 2011 6:25 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Would have been nice to see Schmid bring in Montero there
Move Friberg out wide and let Montero play CAM
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Never thought I'd say this
But I just heard someone butcher the RiDQlous promo worse than Arlo White.
Haha
It’s not butchering, per se, but he certainly isn’t comfortable with it. It’s almost as fun as TACK-O Bell.
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
He says it with incredible contempt
Because its a terrible, terrible drop.
by Brian Floyd on May 28, 2011 6:34 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
well, and he worked for a station in England that didn't do them
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I didn't mean that offensively
I love Arlo’s voice. It’s all in fun.
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
i never realized how small Rimando is
until Fucito was bodied with him
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i hate playing against Andy Williams
because I only want him to succeed
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Anybody else just looking for something, anything, positive?
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 6:32 PM PDT reply actions
The wind looks terrible
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Salt Lake is a much better team playing on the ground too
Seattle needs a goal quickly if the weather is supposed to get worse, and it is
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Yellow for the professional foul
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Yeah
For the commentators to compare his fouls to Jaqua’s is silly. Johnson was clearly carded for a tactical foul (or professional foul, as you called it).
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
That's unfair. They aren't bad.
And its special circumstance
How dare Arlo go to his brother's wedding
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I wish I was getting drunk at a wedding destination in Spain
Even if it meant missing a Sounders game :P
i apologize, insufferable might be a bit too much...
but the whole Canadian/American banter just went on too long. They’re probably not used to each others’ style of commentary yet.
I’ll reserve my judgement for the end of the game.
Just use it as an opportunity
to realize how blessed we are to have Arlo.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Rob Stone, the play by play guy, has been fine.
It’s the color guy who’s been driving me nuts. At least Stone has been subtly calling him on his bullshit.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 6:40 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Isn't it Pete Fewing doing the color?
by wyte_lightning on May 28, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Far from "fine"...
Try listening to the audio without watching the broadcast. (I had to because I was driving somewhere for the first twenty minutes.) It honestly was five minutes into the match before either of them mentioned anything on the field.
Was that
Neagle? Too bad it was right to the goalie.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Great attempt by Neagle
no goal, but solid shot
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Interesting to see how the wind is changing the game
The Neagle shot was immediately after a giveaway where the defense misjudged a header, most likely because of the wind. I’d like a few more breaks like that.
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Flaco was injured in warmups
Smooth, Sigi. Smooth.
by Brian Floyd on May 28, 2011 6:36 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Curious if Flaco told Sigi he was fit enough to play.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes
Just said so in interview
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Sorry Dave
I’m imagining Arlo is here for this game.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Especially since Sigi called Flaco out this past week...
…for not being tough enough. You’d have to think Alvaro would have insisted he was able to play even if he was missing a leg.
Great shot from Neagle.
Good velocity and on the frame. I’ll take it every time.
"Next time we won't"
Interesting comment from Sigi…
get back to him?
I’m sure he wants him to know that.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Alvaro cost Seattle an early sub
and wasn’t playing well to start.
Just because he said he could go, when he couldn’t
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Trainer's job
Coaches aren’t medical experts
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OK...but neither are players...
you play if you think you can…
If Evans had insisted he was healthy enough to play...
…and had to be subbed off, I’m sure Sigi would have been praising his “desire” and “grit,” not attacking his integrity.
yeah thats not the players fault
the coach should have insisted that a trainer see him
i'm sure the trainer looked at him
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions
No, that's the player's fault for misrepresenting the extent of his injury
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Any player worth having on the pitch is going to say they can play...
…unless their limb is falling off. That’s what teams have physios for
True...
inner competitiveness takes over any rational medical analsysis…
If Flaco had begged off...
…I’m sure Sigi would have been questioning his desire and intentional fortitude. (If he’d bothered to learn Spanish, he’d probably say Flaco lacked cojones.) So, when he tries to continue and can’t, he’s not to be trusted?
None of them should really be trusted that much
Sigi was saying that he would only give a veteran the benefit of the doubt, and now Flaco’s input on fitness matters will be given less weight. It’s not really that crazy.
Great question by Rob Stone
probably one that doesn’t get asked by the local guy – not because it is arlo, but because of the local-coach dynamic
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Lots of empty seats
Best team in the league? Hmmpfh. Maybe your stadium shouldn’t be out in the ’burbs.
Man, has riley successfully crossed a ball this mont?
Seems like he’s had a million blocked
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Nevtelen and I just had an ephinany
Fucito is the main character from Mike Tyson Punchout. Body blow!
There's something troubling me about the way the Sounders are playing...
… but I can’t quite put my finger on it. It’s really starting to bug me, too.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 6:45 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Our best offensive player has a shattered leg
The other one is sitting on the bench.
And we’re at Rio Tinto.
I suspect this is your concern :P
I more meant specifically to what had been happening on the field today, but that sucks too :P
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 6:54 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Not enough activity from the midfielders that started the game
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I think that might be it.
The off-ball movement has been really lacking, especially in possession.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 6:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I would imagine they'd need some of them
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
I would think it's close enough that they could get there
But I don’t know for sure.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Seattle scores off that bad call
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RSL is so good at the fullback to fullback cross
there’s got to be a way to take advantage of that lofted ball
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 6:59 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Why?
I know he loves the area, but if he wantsto manage and doesn’t have an opportunity here and one elsewhere arises, he’ll take it. It’s just good business.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:07 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Yep...
And I’d be happy if it was sooner than people might think.
Seattle Just Doesnt Look Good
Haven’t looked dangerous in way too long. Since before Zak went down. They looked much better later in last year, and I’m really bummed they haven’t looked like the Sounders of the last two seasons yet this year (other than Toronto game). They need help mid-season badly.
Right, but there's not guarantee that we repeat last year's run, this season.
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Depends
on how the summer transfer window goes before we see if there will be a similar end result like last year.
I dont know...
…one DP wont turn this team around.
and
Seattle wouldn’t necessarily just bring in 1 player.
Where?
We need help up front, and in the midfield. Im not sure one DP can solve that in MLS where physicality can shut a player down.
I think a Blaise NKufo type player really helps us out.
just my uneducated two cents.
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N'kufo
helped clean up the midfield with his ball handling skill as well as opened montero up.
Bring in someone good at free kicks
Can’t use physicality to stop a free kick, and more danger on set pieces means the defense can’t be quite as physical in general.
It wouldn’t hurt if we had another player with a good hard shot from outside the box. That could help create some space, too, if defenders have to step up to be mindful of long shots.
IF
seattle does bring in another DP can the player stay with us for at least for longer than 1/2 a season and a 1 1/2 season. That would be extremely helpful if we can bring someone in that ends up staying with us for at least 2 seasons.
The right one *could*
It’s no guarantee that any player can turn things around, even the “exact right guy”.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:01 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The right
player would help in those games where we dominated the run of play but couldn’t score.
Or perhaps...
switching to the electric yellow kits…these “bra” type unis are at fault for the crappy weather and crappy play….
Not
what i was hoping that Flaco had to come off.
For being on the road, playing into the wind, and down players
I’m cautiously optimistic about a good result.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 6:55 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah, I think we're hanging in there.
RSL doesn’t have anything going on either. I think we’ve looked better than them, to be honest. They’re connecting here and there.
Always hard to adjust from watching Champions League to MLS.
Well that was another boring half of soccer by the Sounders..
We look slow!!
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can
seattle have a game that doesn’t involve rain?
Not in Football Manager or real life apparently...
And I thought the game was being unreal.. :P
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We are slow, that's the reality right now
The problem is, we haven’t adapted to it.
If we walk out of here with a draw
I will fight anyone upset with the result.
by ClosetCoug on May 28, 2011 6:58 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Mike Fucito inspires me.
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by JWAY on May 28, 2011 6:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
BTW does it rain in August?
Perhaps we (my wife and I) need to pack rain gear?
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It's Seattle - yes.
Though August is less likely for rain than other months.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions
August is the driest month of the year
but always bring rain gear.
We got married in Aug because we wanted an outdoor wedding.
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I'll bring snow pants just in case.
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Seattle summers are actually quite dry
You just never know when summer is going to start. July this year, apparently.
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I'm going to channel Kirsten
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Really? This should be fun.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:08 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Felix taking the mound against the Yankees
Is so tempting.
Sounder till I die though.
I'm facing the same demon.
I can live knowing that over half the M’s game will be left when the Sounders are done.
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
As much as I love Gang of Four
Hearing that Kinect commercial thirty times in a row is soul-destroying.
or the Regence ad?
maybe they need a sales guy
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:09 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
It's really sad
That this stadium isn’t packed. RSL is so good, they deserve a screaming sell out.
Holiday weekend and bad weather. No shocking.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
*Not shocking.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:12 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Okay thanks
I heard Rob Stone and figured it would be the perfect ending to a horrible day of soccer for me.
6-2, 3-1, and Rob Stone.
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Riley with as good a tackle as he's ever made
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Man, Friberg is wearing thin on me
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John Madden
Just possessed one of these commentators. He basically said “If the goalie didn’t save it, it would have been a goal.”
Expect a random Favre mention shortly.
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Anything regarding Favre makes my blood boil
by wyte_lightning on May 28, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I will now be very happy with any variety of draw
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whenever Friberg touches the ball I want to scream
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my god
What does he bring other than looking nice every now and then?
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
He does have great hair
RLCM
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And he's Nordic...
…which, as far as I can tell, is a big thing for Sigi.
Most frustrating player in our short MLS history
The tools are all there… and nothing.
I'd agree
The correlation between Brad Evans presence and our offensive success becomes more and more clear
I'd rather Evans be MIA
than have him like Friberg and the source of turnovers
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Espindola
Might be the only RSL player on the field. Every time I look up he has it on a flank.
The true cause of the card
Was getting knocked down by Fucito in the first half.
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
was thinking the same thing....our smallest but tough guy
takes down and frustrates a guy with 6 inches on him….love it…
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A red for Olave?
That seems a little harsh there live.
Ok, seeing the replay it’s less so, but I still think that’s something more frequency called a yellow.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:22 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Clear path to the goal
is the reasoning I believe
by wyte_lightning on May 28, 2011 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
last man
letter of the law says that if a foul, must be red
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Only argument would be that Borchers was nearly there...
…not complaining here, though.
i think
the ‘last man’ language got removed. now it’s something like ‘denying a clear goal scoring opportunity’. which i think that that was.
Seems like with others nearby, that's not called to the letter all the time
But I’m not complaining. Sounders need any advantage right now.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:25 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Assuming it was a foul
It has to be red. No doubt that a forward with the ball at the top of the box with no one between him and the keeper is an obvious goal scoring opportunity. Therefore, it was a foul that denied an obvious goal scoring opportunity.
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Why do we allow Alonso to take those?
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 7:22 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Great question...Why Alnso?
He’s good for at least 5 yards over the bar.
Not to rag on Alonso
but he’s only scored two goals since being with the Sounders.
Can someone explain why he took the free kick?
He's got a cracking powerful shot
And It looked like the wall was cheating for Fucito
Our mid to forward ball movement is so damn disjointed.
I fucking hate you Mariners
Any sub for Friberg to give a more offensive player that role
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very slopy challenge on Evans
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These dirty mother fuckers!
I fucking hate you Mariners
Real starting to get chippier
You can tell they’re not happy with things right now.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:29 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Let's see some history tonight
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Jaqua is a piece of crap. Terrible pass.
I fucking hate you Mariners
we've got some dead legs out there right now
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Fredy Montero coming in
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This better be for Jaqua
Fucito still looks like he has somethin left. Ja
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
if Sigi does Montero for Fucito ...
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odd sub
fitness?
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions
oh crap
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Jaqua can barely walk, let alone run
Indefensible sub.
That's a coach that went with the pregame plan rather than the play on the field.
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sure seems that way.....
but makes little sense with jaqua totally out of gas and us up a man
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Good movement by Alonso.
Sometime he will learn to slot it in the corner.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 7:33 PM PDT reply actions
Buckle up.
This is gonna be a fun 20 minutes.
defender goal again!!
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Assist?
How many secondary assists were on there?
1 goal lead, man advantage, supreme luck defensively
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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 7:36 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yeah it's against 10 men
But a shutout would feel nice. COME ON BOYS!
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I now want Zach Scott for Friberg
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Zach Scott? really?
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yes, can play any spot on backline
and best long thrower on team
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okay.... get the versatility
is he a solid enough defender though? he’s sorta scared me a bit when he’s been in this season
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How about Carrasco?
Or do you think he’s too green? Or not fit enough after W?
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
For Evans or Friberg
I could also see this, but it should happen soon
I'd hope for Friberg
But Evans if his shoulder is acting up.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Espindola
Is like that guy at the bar at 130am that is cursing at anyone who even looks at him. He just wants to fight.
As if on cue
He just laid out another guy.
by scottykimberly on May 28, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
I work with a bunch of people in Utah who became fairweather fans during the CONCACAF cup.
I personally need the sounders to win this game and I’m so happy it’s going like this. :D
Sounders 'til I die
I'm out of beverage
this is bad
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I have the finest selection
of cheap, gasoline flavored liquor.
Nobody does.
We need to use the last sub. Soon.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions
HE'S BIG! HE'S TALL!
HE’S A MOTHER F******* WALL!
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 7:42 PM PDT reply actions
HOLY HELL
Wow lucky. Anywhere but RIGHT AT Keller and that’s in the back of the net.
holy crap...keller
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Damnit Alonso..DAMNIT
I fucking hate you Mariners
At least he's taking the right person off.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
actually, here it makes a lot of sense
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Better hair
Better defense
Better energy
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I would have preferred Carrasco
but this is justified. Maybe the first justified Levesque sub in history
by ClosetCoug on May 28, 2011 7:44 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
if he came in for anyone but frieberg i would have been annoyed
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I like the yellow
I don’t like it to Riley, but I wish more refs cracked down on stalling.
looks like 4
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd much rather see Rosales come in than Levesque
Rather see them push to increase this lead and build some confidence, and I don’t think Levesque gives that.
Also, why the he’ll is Jaqua still on the pitch? He’s been a statue for fifteen minutes.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:45 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
you're seeing something different than me
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I won't deny that you know more than me.
Just sharing my own viewpoint.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
don't feel compelled to defer...
But i think Jaqua has been pretty active
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Statue might be the wrong word
He is trying to move around as much as he can, but his pace is non-existent right now. I think Levesque could outrun him easily at the moment.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
glad for Lamar!
huge for his confidence
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The fuck was that?
Way to go Neagle, but damn did that look weird.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:47 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Neagle Neagle Neagle
He came from Federal Way
Neagle Neagle Neagle
Scored a goal Today
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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 7:47 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Good to see the boys laying another one on
using the man advantage.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 7:48 PM PDT reply actions
I don't envy Dave and Jeremiah
This team defies all explanation
that was some shitty defense and keller is livid
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yeah, sloppy defending
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions
DAMNIT
2-0 sounded so much better than 2-1… Me wanty shutout.
Keller's mentioned it before but
we have a tendency to play some weak defense in the last 10-12 mins of games, especially when have a lead…
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Yellow for a professional foul
And it was a DAMN GOOD professional foul
all take that cross thank you very much RSL
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Montero as a sub was a great choice today
seems like he helped keep some pace and made good passes thus far
Was that the worst dead ball kick of the day?
In any game any where?
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by Dave Clark on May 28, 2011 7:55 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
all hail the mighty Keller
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JEEEZUS.
Soft focus lens. Either that or I’m having a stroke.
by Fnarf on May 28, 2011 7:57 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
rain on the lens
either that or steven spielberg is directing this broadcast.
that...
just took like five years off of my life.
Will aboslutely take it
Feel good about this one folks
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Yeah....
Makes up a bit for the Dallas game.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions
That's
twice we shut down an unbeaten streak of some sort.
phew....win.....soggy....kinda ugly...but a win.....at RSL.....phew
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Just in time to see the Mariners...
Felix, what the shit?!
Good god do I love Keller
Also, the defense has utterly fallen apart since the Neagle goal. Thank god for the whistle, because I’m not sure how many more miracles that Kasey had left today.
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by c_dowley on May 28, 2011 7:57 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Well that's a game we deserved to lose, but we win.
Guess we can’t complain about that anymore.
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Also those lazy back passes gave me a few grey hairs.
YUCK.
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Not sure we deserved to lose.
I thought we had a pretty good run of play. We’re lucky they were missing some pieces though.
by magistermilitum on May 28, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm so sick of hearing about how lazy everyone is
by ubelmann on May 28, 2011 8:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did you see how lazy Montero was on his assist?
He just stood there and let the ball bounce off of him.
by wyte_lightning on May 28, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Obviously there were spouts of good soccer. But there's plenty of players where the coaching staff will look at the tape
And just wonder what the hell was going on.
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I'm sick of the laziness too, it has to stop!
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It's not laziness.
There’s no lazy players. They’re all highly tuned pros.
I’d call it more like indecisiveness. We don’t start thinking about what to do with the ball until we’ve had it for a second or two. And randomness, where we just bang the ball away as hard as possible without any aim. But that’s the entire league, not just us.
I don't know about "lazy"...
…but we certainly didn’t dominate a team missing some of their top talent and then playing a man down.
Instead, we got a lucky “rebound goal” from a set piece and another from a one-in-a-million long-distance shot…and almost blew a 2-0 lead in the last ten minutes.
Oh, well, I guess the saying is true: “It’s smarter to be lucky than it’s lucky to be smart.”
how?
Corner was well taken.
Neagle’s shot was outstanding.
Red card was thoroughly earned, setting up the play.
Arguably a draw would have been legit BUT…
win is “deserved.”
by nimajneb on May 28, 2011 8:06 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Right, the goal we gave up though was just our inability to close and hold firm, and we almost gave up the win.
Almost doesn’t count, but there’s plenty of room for improvement.
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You do realize that RSL is easily one of the best teams in the league, right?
by wyte_lightning on May 28, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Absolutely. But how many of their starters were they missing tonight?
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Maybe I'm insane. But I felt like there was plenty of unforced errors...and spots where people's heads were absent.
I don’t claim to be a soccer genius…these are just my feelings.
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Saying what you said and saying "we deserved to lose"
Aren’t necessarily equivalent. You can not play perfectly and still deserve a result.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on May 28, 2011 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Well deserving something is up to the eye of the beholder, we got 3 points and for that I'm happy!
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So if they're reserve players we're supposed to excuse their lack of ability?
They’re our starters now, they should be rated as such, no?
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Well the crowd is suggesting its their lack of ability that I'm seeing.
Not that they’re lazy and soft.
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you want to rate people differently...
If they’re on due to injury rather than international duty?
The depth of both teams was considerably tested but there’s no chance that such circumstances excessively favored Seattle.
Right, but saying RSL is one of the best teams in the league right now isn't a great argument, that best team wasn't out there tonight.
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Their reserve players would be starters on many teams in the MLS
by wyte_lightning on May 28, 2011 8:18 PM PDT up reply actions
This is probably true. But they only had 10 guys at the end.
And the last ten minutes I felt like we got beat silly.
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not particularly...
last ten minutes i saw a couple nervous set piece opportunities and one man with a bad defensive lapse on top of a rather well organized defensive effort and an offense which would have made things much more scary for RSL if not for the effort to kill off the game.
I must have imagined the ineffective passing.
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I must have imagined the
decent buildup between Neagle and Montero, and the 3 on 3 / 4 on 3 setups which happened (at least in my mind’s eye) several times. You press those and you come up with chances equally as strong as RSL’s. If Jaqua had had any legs by the end it would have helped.
Regardless:
If you’re suggesting that the run of play invited a -2 or -3 goal differential in the last 10 minutes, I think you’d be letting time-wasting tactics get to you too much.
I'd argue...
They’re still well into the upper half
and playing at home
in one of the most difficult settings possible…
I don’t think their injury status significantly diminishes the accomplishment, really. If anything we have a bit of praise to give Ianni for the poached goal and a bit of scolding for a lousy lapse. The defense was otherwise fairly strong. The best chances came off lucky bounces (which should still be closed off better).
Agreed...
RSL may be “one of the best teams in the league,” but not with the starting XI they had tonight.
This wasn't a sterling performance
But a few defensive miscues were saved by stellar goalkeeping, and either of the goals or the red card can be attributed to luck. We put in a great performance and took three points from one of the most difficult place to play in MLS. Yeah, we were fortunate to meet them when they were on a slide and missing a lot of players, but hey, three points! Positivity!
by Tohoya on May 28, 2011 8:45 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Good day of results too
Except for LA winning. Lots of draws all around. We’re seventh on points per game now, 1.43, right behind New York at 1.50. A beautiful day in Sandy Yute.
Several comments
…now that MDL has caught up to the thread…
Protect Mike Fucito (in the starting 11)…
Free Lamar Neagle (more)…
Best use of Roger Levesque ever
I’m a Friberg supporter, but right now he needs to sit for a while. Good vision, poor decisions.
Riley had some decent interventions but some scary giveaways.
Wahl had some decent offensive contributions and service but continues to be the second best left back in one-on-one defending.
Not bad from Fredy
forgot because i was giving it a place of honor
GREAT game by Keller.
Depends on how bad
the injury to Flaco is. We may end up seeing freberg more.
Recap is up
The Sounders caught some breaks tonight.
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Well that's a better way to sum it up than I did. Apparently I need to put a positive spin on my words.
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Well, we've had plenty of games over the last couple of years...
…where it could honestly be said that we deserved to win, but tied or even lost because of bad breaks. This was just one of those games which show that “it all evens out in the end.”
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