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Seattle Sounders At Toronto FC - Three Questions With Waking The Red

CARSON, CA - JUNE 11:  Head Coach Aron Winter of Toronto FC yells to his players from the sideline during the MLS match against the Los Angeles Galaxy at The Home Depot Center on June 11, 2011 in Carson, California. Toronto and the Galaxy played to a 2-2 draw.  (Photo by Victor Decolongon/Getty Images)

No matter how down Seattle Sounders fans are about their results, nothing compares to what the Toronto FC faithful have gone through. They didn't even win their national championship in the first possible year, at least the Sounders got the US Open Cup and didn't lose it to a D2 team. This year only a weather decision prevented them from losing the Voyageurs Cup to Vancouver.

The Reds of Canada have been disjointed, talent averse and are on their sixth coach in their short existence. Their most famous player to wear the shirt asked out and was dealt on April First to a Conference rival. In short their fan base has plenty of reasons to be pissed, but as we join Waking the Red we find someone who is patient.

Sounder at Heart: Are TFC supporters losing patience with Winter's version of the game due to the lack of results? Will his lack of success lead to his firing?

Waking the Red: Supporters are definitely losing patience, not just because of the results, but because it all just seems so disjointed.  Right now it looks like he's trying to play too complicated of a system, that the players aren't comfortable with and most of them frankly aren't skilled enough to play.  Unfortunately there's not a lot that fans can do, everyone realises that the last thing TFC need is another managerial change, so there's an air of resignation and just having to wait until at least next year around the supporters.  Combine that with the novelty wearing off, 4 years of failure, and a Front Office that seems almost hostile to Supporter's Groups, and it's a recipe for apathy and falling attendances.  Even with all that, I can't see him getting fired any time this season, if after a full year to build his squad and teach the players his system, we're still struggling at this point in 2012, then that question will really come into play.

 

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SaH: Stefan Frei is an incredible shot-stopper, but he faces too many shots. What can Toronto do to keep him happy and get him the recognition he needs around the League?

WtR: Stefan Frei really has been a game saver for TFC with the saves he makes, and keeping him happy should be a big priority.  Making lots of saves is one thing, but having as big of a goals against record as he does really can't be helping his future prospects.  He's a very professional player so I doubt it would ever become a public issue, but it wouldn't surprise me if he were to start looking for a way out of this club, for the sake of his own career.  The best way to keep him happy would be to build a better defence in front of him, and not just to keep the shots down.  His main weakness when he broke into the team in 2009 was his control of the box and ability to come for crosses.  In 2010 under Preki, the defence as a whole was a lot more organised and it really made a difference to Frei, who seemed a lot more confident about when he needed to come for crosses, and thus much more effective.  He's taken a step back in that respect this year behind our ever changing and unfamiliar back 4, and looks very uncertain, coming for a lot of crosses he really doesn't need to, and looking very shaky when he does.


SaH: Julian De Guzman has been used in different roles during his time in Toronto. Is he settling into a comfortable one finally? Will he ever be able to meet expectations?

WtR: I guess that's the silver lining to Canada getting knocked out of the Gold Cup, De Guzman will be back earlier then expected.  He has been playing a specific role the last few games he played for us, as a pure Defensive Midfielder with 2 midfielders in front of him, the midfield 3 playing 'point back'.  That was started after the Seattle game and it generally went quite well.  Whether that will continue when he rejoins the team is another question though as now that Alan Gordon is back at centre forward, Maicon Santos may need to be accommodated as an Attacking midfielder, with the midfield triangle going to 'point forward'.  Wherever he plays, I think it's now pretty clear that he's never going to meet the expectations TFC fans had when he arrived, Maybe those expectations were always too high, but even if they were, it's just another in the long line of disappointments we suffer through.

 

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WtR: Last time we played you had just lost Zakuani and White.  How has the team adapted to their loss?  You seem to be doing ok results wise, have tactics changed?  Other players stepped up?

SaH: Sigi has moved to a more diamond shaped midfield and even played with two smalls up top paring Mike Fucito and Fredy Montero. This is a significant shift, but has resulted in chances, just not goals. The team is continuing to tread water and wait for better health and the transfer window, because right now it is a merely average MLS side.
 
If Alvaro Fernandez is back things should be more open as he allows Seattle to do some different things with diagonal balls, as well as reading a crowded penalty box quite well using chips and short passes to break through tight spaces. Without Fernandez Seattle will probably use Erik Friberg. He's a decent passer, but not as strong defensively, and doesn't offer the aerial threat that Alvaro does.


WtR: The entry of Portland and Vancouver to MLS has taken things up a notch out in the north west?  How important  is that rivalry to fans?  In a hypothetical ranking of all the trophies you could win this year, where would the Cascadia Cup rank?

SaH: I followed the team in the USL and A-League so the Cascadia Cup is a big deal for me, but I like most MLS Sounders fans will consider it merely the 4th trophy in importance. The road trips and stadium atmosphere are amazing, but I'm one of those odd people who think that winning is more important than tifo. There may be a season where the Cascadia Cup is vital for Seattle fans, but that would mean that the Sounders had a piss poor season and it would be the only trophy on the season.
 
It continues to raise the profile of all of the teams in the region among the casuals. That is going to be key for long term growth of the sport, as Seattle's goal is to fill a 67,000 seat stadium for league matches. I expect a Cascadia match will be the first one where that happens.


WtR: Things went horribly wrong for TFC in Seattle with that 3-0 defeat.  What should we change?  What are the keys to beating the sounders this year?

SaH: Seattle can be beaten quite simply. The opponent should not try to play beautifully, but instead just bunker and counter. The team is very good at run-of-play soccer, so the losses come either from great counter attacks, or great set-play work. Those may be boring ways to win, but they are the best ways to beat these Sounders.
 
Seattle can break down organized standard defenses and will pepper opposing defenders (they lead the league in blocked shots) as well as the keeper. A team that keeps its composure in those circumstances and understands that without the goals those shots off goal are just turnovers should have a chance.

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Sad, but true.

Such a simple tactic is so frustrating to us. 10th behind the ball and a fast guy at the half line and you can take points off the Sounders. I think we have a very talented team with a simple way to break us down. A little more creativity on Sigi’s part and we will be back in the fans graces.

by Iam333 on Jun 16, 2011 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Creativity on Sigi's part?

What tactic, formation or personel change hasn’t he tried this season?

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by Dave Clark on Jun 16, 2011 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t claim to know exactly what to do. I don’t think it is a major tactical change that we need. Just a focus on defending the counter. Unlike many unhappy Sounders fans, I think Sigi is using every trick in his extensive repertoire to fairly good effect.

I think Sigi’s creativity will be seen in how he deals with the player who is getting behind our D. The counter is a tough thing to stop when we push our possession up so high.

The only other thing i wish to see from Sigi is Montero at CAM. If he is playmaking more than dribbling, back him up.

by Iam333 on Jun 16, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I totally agree about Montero back from a forward

but that should only help scoring, not defense

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by Dave Clark on Jun 16, 2011 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

That was mostly an aside. The D just gets punished for lapses and needs to find ways to minimize them.

by Iam333 on Jun 16, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hasn't Montero really been playing somewhat as a CAM lately?

Completely unscientific analysis from my eyes tells me he’s been drifting back quite a lot and I’m always noticing beautiful through balls and passes, chips, etc – into the box for other players to make a play on. Also more and more of his shots seem to be coming from farther away, past the 18.

Also, I can’t remember (outside of that cross last week) the last time Montero was attempting a shot from inside the box. My memory isn’t the best, however. Am I off?

by ABTsportsline on Jun 17, 2011 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think you're right on

He’s definitely drifted back more lately in an attempt to find space and service. I think that’s partially because there is no one up top to attract attention and keep the defense off of him. It’s not something that Fucito has been doing that well (not that Jaqua has been doing a stellar job either with his finishing problems). It really makes me miss Nkufo.

by Dizzo on Jun 17, 2011 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Finally, someone making sense

“I’m one of those odd people who think that winning is more important than tifo”

could not support this statement more whole-heartedly!!!

by Realio on Jun 16, 2011 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

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