Mike Fucito Should Remain Starter
Last year, much of the of the case made for Sigi Schmid starting Mike Fucito in league play revolved around his PP90, which was absurdly high due to sample size. Around here, we of course we knew that would not carry over into multiple goals in every start. But despite the lack of forward scoring, the Seattle Sounders are generating chances with Fucito on the pitch, and it is obvious that Jeff Parke respects his game (Mayers, Seattle Times);
"He causes havoc everywhere because he's got that 'no quit' attitude," said Parke. "You know what you're going to get out of him, game in and game out, because you know he's going to put that effort in."
And while that effort gets the respect of the fans and teammates, let's look at some data. Zero Goals. Zero Assists. That's hard to argue, and at least one fellow SBN Soccer blogger says that he should sit. He probably isn't the only one. Let's dive deeper.
| Fucito Starts | Fucito Doesn't | |
| Duels | 51.5% | 51.4% |
| Passsing | 73.3% | 71.7% |
| Opp. Passing | 69.0% | 73.6% |
| Possession | 55.8% | 50.4% |
The team in matches where Fucito starts has better passing, better defense, and better possession (per Opta data at www.mlssoccer.com). Those are only general indications of play, and certainly not huge correlations to wins. Sigi though wants different data. He wants chances created, goals, assists. We have some of that as well.
It’s just right now it seems like our decisions in front of goal are just off a little bit. I have to look at it and say to myself, ‘Are we getting the ball forward? Are we getting shots on goal? Are we creating chances? Are we carrying the play?’ The only stats that really talk about that you can look at possession, you can look at shots, you can look at corner kicks. When you look at those stats we are always near the top of the league. From that standpoint it has been good. When you look at the top teams they play to zero a lot more than we do. There is a much higher correlation between goals against and maybe even fouls committed to your place in the standings than there is to shots. Whether you get a lot of shots or not doesn’t matter where you are in the standings
| Player | Chances | Reaches | Shots | Minutes | Sh/Ch | Ch/90 | Rch/90 |
| Montero | 31 | 58 | 26 | 935 | 0.84 | 2.98 | 5.58 |
| Fucito | 10 | 12 | 6 | 356 | 0.60 | 2.53 | 3.03 |
| Jaqua | 11 | 14 | 8 | 566 | 0.73 | 1.75 | 2.23 |
| Rosales | 9 | 43 | 7 | 663 | 0.78 | 1.22 | 5.84 |
| Evans | 15 | 9 | 9 | 923 | 0.60 | 1.46 | 0.88 |
That's using Power Stats Sounders page. A page that doesn't have the Red Bull game, so no minutes played from that game are counted. There aren't a ton of options for forward. Of those currently performing at a starter's level the pairing of Fucito and Fredy Montero has created the most opportunities either with chances at their own feet, or by placing the ball at their teammates' feet.
Plenty of opportunities created, and certainly worthy of remaining in the starting lineup. The real question is will the weak defense of Toronto FC be broken by the Montero/Fucito pairing.
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Good article. There’s only 2 healthy players at the moment who I’d be happy to see starting up top w/ Freddy: Fucito and Rosales.
I was interested so I grabbed the definitions of Reaches and Chances they use
CHANCE: Any time a player has chance to shoot.
REACH: Physically directing the ball into the penalty area where there is a scoring opportunity.
by agtk on Jun 16, 2011 5:09 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Thank you for completing my work
Another example of why everyone should read comments.
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Thanks
I was about to ask what a Reach was.
MLS has Montero with far more shots than this, I thought. Something like 48.
Come over to the Whitecaps Offside page:
http://vancouver.theoffside.com/
by Brenton Offside on Jun 17, 2011 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions
Link
Shot stats from MLS site.
Come over to the Whitecaps Offside page:
http://vancouver.theoffside.com/
by Brenton Offside on Jun 17, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
Interesting to note on that website
They have our home game against FCD as our third best performance of the year, and the game against COL as our worst.
Fucito does commit a lot of fouls
He has more than Evans, Rosales, Parke, Fernandez, and Carrasco.
Of course, the fouls he commits are going to be in a much different position than those other players, but he sure is okay with throwing his body into defenders.
He's Mr. Grabby Hands...
….but you’ve got to do what you’ve got to do, when you’re his size and the guy he’s up against is twice that.
by Timm Higgins on Jun 16, 2011 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmmm....
I think he should start… sometimes. Last week vs. the ‘Craps, I thought we could’ve used Jaqua’s size a little earlier. They have some big dudes and we were struggling, to my eye anyway, to win duels. Kasey didn’t have a target for distribution, and Rosales and Wahl didn’t have a head to aim at on those dozens of crosses they were whipping in.
I do think Fucito is more dynamic than Jaqua and a bigger threat to score (duh), but I guess my bottom line is that sometimes matchups might dictate that we need some size somewhere on the pitch, and in those cases I don’t mind him not starting.
by JesseMT on Jun 16, 2011 9:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you
I like seeing Fucito on the field, but I think that we would have been more successful last game with a big target for those Rosales crosses. Unfortunately, most teams in MLS have big back lines so the match-ups would indicate more Jaqua than I would probably like. The real answer is to get another big target man and fast.
Sooo...
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…What you’re saying is…
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… you’re a fan of Fucito?…. and statistics?
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to bad that getting credit for an assist requires your teammate on the other end to finish
yeah, it’s a more generally directed comment but Fucito has layed off some nice passes that just didn’t get finished — but then that’s one of the main concerns with this team as a whole. I agree that Fucito should remain a starter. He’s relentless and plays both ‘big’ and unintimidated. He’s also able to bring speed to the pitch that we’ve been sorely lacking with the losses of Zak and OBW. He doesn’t quit, he doesn’t dive, and as the stats above show, the pairing with Fredy creates chances. Now, if we could just magically solve the whole team-wide finishing consistently conundrum……
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No complaints about Fucito as a starter, but
JesseMT makes some valid points. I think we probably should somewhat mold our starting lineup against our opponent. When we’re facing teams with two huge centerbacks, starting Fucito and Montero – even given how strong they are – might present some mis-matches in the opponents favor.
In matches like that, I would not be against starting Jaqua instead, and having Fucito come on as a sub in the 60th minute. Fucito’s speed seems to be more effective later in the match when opposing defenses have started to tire. I think that’s when he’s most effective.
You could also try and shift tactics.
Direct them to use speed, instead of trying to put it on their heads. Put the ball into space for Fucito to run onto it, put crosses along the ground, and try and spring one of the guys on a diagonal run. As much as size and strength can work for a defender, speed and guile can work for a forward or winger. Force the defense to worry about Fucito beating the offside trap, and you’ve given Montero and Rosales a bit of breathing room in front of the defenders.
Now, I do agree that Jaqua is valuable as a big body to clear room, win headers, and open things up for teammates. However, just because the other team has a big defense doesn’t mean the Sounders need to go big as well. The best example of this was the CL final last month. Man U defenders had the clear size advantage, so Messi & Co. played short corners and worked the ball on the ground for a majority of the game. Obviously the Sounders don’t have that skill level, but it does show that a technical approach with small forwards can beat size.
Fair points
But to win those kind of battles (big vs small), you have to trump size with supreme talent. I don’t know if we have that level of talent (as you also referenced) to necessarily overcome the size. This is a team-by-team thing though; not every team in the MLS has an imposing, towering pair of center backs.
by ABTsportsline on Jun 17, 2011 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions
fucito struggled against John & Olave
So I see what you mean
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