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Seattle Sounders Late Winner Over Toronto FC 1-0

TORONTO, CANADA - JUNE 18:  Maicon Santos #29 of Toronto FC reacts to the loss to Seattle Sounders FC during MLS action at BMO Field June 18, 2011 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. (Photo by Abelimages/Getty Images)

The game opened hearing that we would see a free roaming Fredy Montero who could do what he wanted. It wound up with Seattle playing a 4-2-3-1 with the middle of that 3 band being free to pester Toronto FC from unique angles. For the first 10 or 15 minutes it looked like Seattle was going to be the only challenger in this one with Mike Fucito hitting the far post in minute 2. The last 15 minutes also played to the strengths of Seattle; possession soccer continually threatened Stefan Frei with Montero as the lone forward. Just prior to the end of the 90 he hit a perfectly placed ball from the right elbow around the wall and edging into the net. It will be a goal of the week candidate as Montero's shot was the winner with Seattle at only 10 men.

The other 60 minutes did not play well. There were struggles from many. James Riley and Lamar Neagle had poor first halves. Jhon Kennedy Hurtado was out of position after a poor play by Riley and got his first yellow. After the half Hurtado again took a Toronto player down and earned his second yellow. From the 49th minute forward Seattle would play down a man, and yet they didn't sit back.

The Shale side struck back via counter. They used possession. They threatened. Fucito put a header just over the bar. Alonso took a few shots, even keeping a few low. Zach Scott as in as a centerback and played well. Momentum should have been Toronto's way.

But it was not. Instead it was the short Seattle side that managed to find empty spaces and exploit them. Alvaro Fernandez replaced Fucito who had pulled back to the left mid and his footwork beat several men. Brad Evans who had a strong second half took two knocks and needed to be pulled after creating a few chances. Erik Friberg came in and managed to spring Mauro Rosales on the counter.

In the end this was the free roaming Fredy Montero show.

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A show where he displayed solid defense, creative passing and in the end the shot that won the game. Ideally it will be a portent of things to come with Montero in a more midfield position able to spring players in multiple channels, take shots on goal and create from a dead ball with sublime precision. Seattle now sits at 25 points at the half way point, with 1.47 PPM. Considering everything this is striking distance for potential trophies and a fine place to be.

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Seattle now sits at 25 points at the half way point, with 1.47 PPM.

If someone had said on 3/15 that the Sounders would only drop four in the first half the season, I think we’d all have taken that.

by jayw913 on Jun 18, 2011 6:46 PM PDT reply actions  

Buy a Target Man for Montero

and we’ll win the league. I want Peter Crouch (just because he’s such a freak to watch).

by Fnarf on Jun 18, 2011 7:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Great effort today

I was pleasantly surprised with our effort in the second half. One would think we had an extra player today. The goal was marvelous (initially I thought the ball hit the side netting) , and the keeping position close to the corner flag in the added time was priceless.

by seattle 13 on Jun 18, 2011 7:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Yep

But I’ve never seen a team ever do that before? Is this the first time, or am I just not watching enough soccer?

by SeahawksPhan on Jun 18, 2011 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's the "honest" way to waste time

many teams try to do it, but few as successful as Montero, Rosales, Fernandez were tonight. Shouldn’t be a surprise that those are three of the most technical players on the squad.

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by Dave Clark on Jun 18, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

a lot of teams dribble the ball into the corner

but few are as good as montero, rosales, et al were in keeping possession. Most of the time they waste a minute before the other side kicks it off one of the time wasters to win a throw in.

by Tohoya on Jun 18, 2011 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Congrats on the win

How kind of our coach to sub off Nathan Sturgis for no reason.

The speed is missing along the Sounders’ wings. Same speed that Zakuani and Nyassi brought only Zak is far better and Nyassi is obviously elsewhere.

So close and yet so far. The story of my sports fandom.

by SSreporters on Jun 18, 2011 7:42 PM PDT reply actions  

You wouldn't take Rosales over Nyassi?

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by Dave Clark on Jun 18, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that too. Rosales is better than Nyassi

So close and yet so far. The story of my sports fandom.

by SSreporters on Jun 18, 2011 8:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

you got that right

I’ve been complaining about lack of speed and decent wing play since Zakuani went down. I would love to still have Nyassi at this point, although at the time last November I considered him expendable.

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 18, 2011 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love that Fredy didn't take his shirt off...

…and I love that Rosales was right in position to put in any kind of rebound (though he may have been offside.)

Other than Leo’s dive that wasn’t a dive earlier this season, have their been any cards for simulation this year in Sounders matches? Pretty unbelievable that the ref didn’t card Yourrassowsky at least once. I guess I can understand why they are reluctant to call it—since seemingly half the time they do, they get it wrong—but all the more reason to dole out some punishment after the fact for the most outrageous offenders.

by ubelmann on Jun 18, 2011 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Didn't look offside to me

And I thought the same thing. The entire Toronto defense was just watching the shot. If that comes to Rosales, he’s the only one around the ball.

His activity tonight was spectacular.

by Jeff Nusser on Jun 18, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, and the dives are easy

MLS should just review the games, and issue cards after the fact. It doesn’t make a difference in the game, but it does for accumulation. Easy solution.

by Jeff Nusser on Jun 18, 2011 8:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

FIFA does allow this (only optional)

both the SPL and the A-League do it.

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by Dave Clark on Jun 18, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

It should be done.

It is easy to see simulation watching the replay in slow motion. It would clean up the game and make it better in my opinion.

by Coug1990 on Jun 18, 2011 8:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's at least easy to see the worst simulation in slow motion

I don’t care as much about the borderline stuff, just make sure the outrageous stuff earns a card and a fine. It ought to make the ref’s job at least a little easier.

by ubelmann on Jun 18, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I think a lot of people confuse simulation and exaggeration, but like you said, in slow motion, clear simulation is incredibly easy to spot.

Like everybody has said, simulation should be given the after-the-fact booking, but personally, I would like to see more: If a player is booked as a result of the other player’s simulation, the simulator should receive double the penalty (yellow for one becomes two yellows on record plus game suspension, and straight red becomes 2x suspension for diver – a bit harsh but simulation causing a straight red takes an incredible fraud) and the victim gets booking wiped off record.

by mistuhp on Jun 18, 2011 9:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Riley made a horrible challenge

he may not have made contact, but he’s actually lucky Yourrassowsky avoided it. The fact there was subsequent embellishment doesn’t change the fact that is was a reckless challenge, with no play on the ball… any contact there and Riley is surely booked…

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 18, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm saying it was a reckless challenge by Riley

And that is a FACT. He had no chance for the ball. Did it occurr to Yourassowsky that by avoiding the challenge he got Riley off the hook? I would say yes, which is why he embellished to try to draw the card…

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 18, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm saying that there was no contact and that is a FACT

Did my all-caps help the point I was trying to make? Yourassowsky wasn’t embellishing, he was flat-out making shit up.

The ref’s job is hard enough as it is, there’s no way he’s going to be able to call fouls in cases where contact may have occurred if he can’t trust that players aren’t flopping around like fish out of water.

by ubelmann on Jun 18, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

it was a reckless challenge by Riley

Riley had no play for the ball and slid in. That is dangerous, that is reckless, and good players should know better than to do that.

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 18, 2011 11:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

And good players should also no better than to twist around and flop to the ground when they aren't touched

If he wants to argue to the ref that Riley made a reckless challenge, he has the ability to speak.

by ubelmann on Jun 18, 2011 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not to mention that Yourassowsky is doing himself no favors by diving

After the ref reviews the game film, he now knows that he can’t trust Yourossowky’s actions to reflect events as they’ve actually occurred on the field, which could easily make the ref less likely to call actual contact between Yourossowsky and a defender. We all lose when the players act to that degree.

by ubelmann on Jun 18, 2011 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

you somehow think I'm defending Yourassowsky

In fact, I am of the opinion that Yourassowsky made a decision in the split second. He saw Riley sliding in and instrictually decided to avoid the contact, and as he did so he then realized he better be theatrical so he could still draw the card. You actually see this type of thing all the time. You see reckless challenges all the time in the penalty area where the attacker avoids the contact but goes to ground anyway to draw the penalty. When the penalty is awarded, as it was in the famous example of Australia vs. Italy in ‘06, everyone goes ballisitc about diving. That’s fine, but I just feel like you can;t compleetly overlook that there was astill a reckless challenge, such a challenge that if the contact isn’t avoided, there will be a penalty, or card.

Think about last week, where if Fucito goes down easily, instead of struggling to keep his feet and even get his shot off, he might get a penalty, and even a red card against Vancouver for the foul. Now, we all love Fucito because he is a bulldog, but what if that had been a Montero type who goes to ground easier?

And this is where we get to the real heart of the matter, which is the moral ambiguity of it all. Is diving bad? Absolutely. But here is also what I think. The result of that play, with no-one getting booked, is fair. It is fair because Riley’s potential card is cancelled by Yourassowsky’s theatrics.

And I am just fine with that…

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 18, 2011 11:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Still not buying it

Week in, week out, we hear whining and complaining about how the refs are so terrible. What I’m saying here is that we should make their jobs easier. If it’s soooo easy for you to sit back and judge Riley’s challenge to be reckless, and if it’s soooo easy for Yourassowsky to judge Riley’s challenge to be reckless (after all, he’s an impartial observer, and we want the players involved in the officiating, right?) then what I’m saying is that Yourassowsky should not go to ground, should avoid the contact, and Riley should be booked.

You’re looking at it as Yourassowsky doesn’t get a card, Riley doesn’t get a card, so everything evens out, but they aren’t the only stakeholders here. The ref gets cheated, and since there are punishments for yellow-card accumulation, letting players cancel out a yellow-card foul with a dive doesn’t work in a global sense, either. It’s not like it would be unprecedented for a ref to card both a defender for committing a foul and an offender for diving on the same play.

by ubelmann on Jun 19, 2011 12:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

so you're saying Riley's challange wasn't reckless?

its soooo easy to judge Riley’s challenge as reckless because it was. I mean, Hurtado made a reckless challenge with no chance for the ball and for his trouble got his first yellow.

I’m saying tha if I am in the room reviewing that, as an impartial observer I am noting that Riley’s challange was reckless, and that is going to be part of my final decision. We want people to review these things, then they need to really review them, and take into account all factors. So maybe they both get one?! Okay… but as a reviewer I am also going to default to not changing the call made on field, unless there is overwhelming or compelling evidence to change it. So when I file my report (which, BTW, is something I actually want to have happen: a review committee that looks at these things and releases weekly reports) I am going to explain exactly why I am leaving it as-is, and include warnings to both players about their actions…

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 19, 2011 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

and aren't we also interested in cleaning up physical play in MLS??

which includes reckless challenges such as players leaving their feet and sliding at other players with no chance to win the ball?!

I seem to recall a series of injuries to star players earlier in the season where this became a real cause for concern…

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 19, 2011 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I am interested in cleaning up physical play in MLS

I firmly believe that it will be much easier to clean up physical play in MLS if we first take reasonable action against diving. With less diving, refs can call what they see, rather than having to figure out what is fact and what is fantasy.

by ubelmann on Jun 19, 2011 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

chicken or the egg

I believe a lot of players learned to embellish or simulate because they were often on the receiving end of rash challenges. That doesn’t condone it, but it certainly explains it to some degree…

but then, of course, there are the blatant dives, where there was no bad challange – or any realy chalenge at all. But that’s not what we’re talking about here. You cannot overlook the contributing factor of the Riley challange when reviewing this incident.

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 19, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

HIs challenge was late...

Not sloppy, not particularly dangerous. I really think you are looking at the wrong culprit.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 19, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I'm saying that Riley's challenge is an entirely separate matter

Simulation is against the rules. Yourassowksy should have been booked for simulation. He wasn’t touched and he spun about three times in the air before rolling around on the ground five times. My argument is that this is bad for the game because it makes the ref’s job harder, and his job is hard enough already.

I’m going on to say now that I have never, ever seen a player get called for a foul when he made no contact and the offensive player didn’t go down. While in some hypothetical, idealized world players would get punished for that sort of thing, I have my realistic objectives, and the only way to live in a world where players get punished when they make no contact with a player is if we do a better job at eliminating diving. One step needs to happen before the other can take place.

You argued earlier that Fucito could have been better off last week had he gone to ground easier. I’m arguing that if we punished diving more harshly, that the ref could trust what he sees when someone like Fucito goes to ground. He could believe that Fucito was fouled even though he didn’t go down like he got shot, or roll around in eight different directions after he hit the ground.

by ubelmann on Jun 19, 2011 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

I would call Riley's tackle bad (poorly executed) not reckless

The three things that define a reckless challenge to me are 1) studs up 2) coming in from behind 3) scissoring with the trailing leg. Those are what causes injuries, IMHO.

Riley’s challenge was just really, really badly timed. From the replay I saw, he was coming in studs down and from the side (not behind). The trailing leg was safely tucked back away from the challenge. It could maybe be a yellow if you think Riley was playing the man not the ball. I personally think Riley just F-upped the timing of the tackle.

by Dizzo on Jun 19, 2011 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with you more than I agree with Jake

Up above, Jake says that Yourassowsky made a decision in the split second. Yet, so did Riley. Because of slow motion, it makes it look like Riley had more time than he actually had to make a play, but make no mistake, it was a split second decision for him.

When you watched the play, both Riley and Yourassowsky were both several steps from the ball. They both ran toward the ball, but Yourassowsky go to the ball first. Riley saw this and tried to pull back when he noticed that he was not going to get to the ball.

I don’t see the challenge as reckless, I more see it like you that he was off on the timing, something we see all the time.

by Coug1990 on Jun 19, 2011 8:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

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by Little old me on Jun 20, 2011 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's a yellow

for language. Clean it up or you’ll be on the bench! ; )

by swansuite on Jun 19, 2011 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Tech Fit saved Montero from getting a yellow there.

Those shirts are freaking tight. Pretty sure it got stuck. haha.

by DarthGreedo on Jun 18, 2011 9:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought Friberg played a good game

He was clearly and offensive upgrade over what Evans gave us.

Glad to see Freddy put one in and in general have a good game.

Hurtado seems a step slow ever since he came back from the knee injury, I wonder if he is still not at 100% in his recovery.

Rosales looked great, Fucito looked great…I’m not sure their games compliment eachother. Rosales looks for tall players to cross to, Fucito looks for north south through balls.

by blakec on Jun 18, 2011 9:26 PM PDT reply actions  

Hurtado's recovery

Regarding the type of injury sustained by Hurtado, many feel that it often takes almost a full year AFTER returning to play before a full recovery can be adequately measured. I would not be surprised to see him struggle a bit for the remainder of this season and return to better form next season. I watched it happen to several teammates during college (basketball, not soccer).

Life's what happens while you're making other plans

by LGoofus on Jun 18, 2011 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely

I had a family thing this afternoon and had to follow by relentlessly checking the game thread on my phone, so I didn’t get to watch until later. Knowing the outcome, I watched a little bit of the first half and all of the second half.

I thought Friberg played his best game yet. All he did was simple stuff, with nice clean passing and some key ball winning. More of that and he will be making a solid case to feature.

And speaking of guys who have had lulls in the past…. Flaco. I thought he was outstanding today. (Yes, I saw the shot he didn’t take. Still….) Again, he didn’t do a lot of crazy stuff, but he just seemed incredibly composed on the ball in midfield, and really helped our 10 maintain possession and keep it going in the right direction.

Honestly, other than the wonder goal, I don’t think Fredy had much different of a game than he normally has. I don’t mean that as a bad thing, but a lot of those little good things he did today were things that I see him do all the time (although I could be delusional).

by mistuhp on Jun 18, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Friberg

After a few dismal games tonight he seemed to be back in much better form in the small sample we got to see. I hope he keeps it up, because while I like Evans now better than i have, I still feel Friberg is a much more skilled player.

I do see some light while this game wasn’t the best, Flaco and Friberg off the bench were solid and looked good. Fredy’s liberty, and Rosales being match fit for 90, add an extremely skilled strike partner for Fredy and a I see us being much more dominate the second half of the season.

by Dan Olson on Jun 18, 2011 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

my sentiments

After going down to 10, and the corresponding substitutions and formation changes, we played much better. You have to wonder what Sigi’s master plan originally was…and I fear it involved Noonan.

by Aasenb on Jun 18, 2011 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

i thought the exact same thing

they seemed to play with a controlled sense of urgency and with a much sharper focus…it seemed to result in better decisions, some fairly impressive control including stretches of very accurate passing/good movement and spacing off the ball…..

I also think Sigi deserves credit for making adjustments/subs that worked effectively when we went down a man…..yes, the win came against TFC, but a win (much less scoring) while playing down a man for half the match is impressive no matter who you play (imho)

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by LGoofus on Jun 18, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes

Neagle was, um, bad…
but to be fair it wasn’t all him. Credit also goes to Toronto for not being very good, and the soccer gods for keeping that shot off the post out of the net

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 18, 2011 11:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

If you are going to gift Toronto their post

doesn’t Seattle get theirs?

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by Dave Clark on Jun 18, 2011 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fucito's was the ball width plus post width away

Toronto’s was maybe an inch… I mean, that hits the post even an inch over and it deflects in instead of out. Don’t get me wrong, Fucito’s chance was close, but to me it looked like Frei actually had it covered, and it just managed to kiss the outside of the post as it was going just wide. Close, yes, but OMG close…

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 18, 2011 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

oops

I should say “but not OMG close”

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 18, 2011 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't believe Frei had Fucito covered on the far post

From the reverse angle it looked like he had a solid 12-18" of open space between Frei’s glove and the far post.

by MicahRowe18 on Jun 18, 2011 11:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yes

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by Little old me on Jun 20, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm curious

why Scott replaced Hurtado at CB, rather than Ianni. Has Ianni fallen out of favor? Or is Seattle shopping one of Scott or Ianni?

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by 108Ultra on Jun 18, 2011 11:15 PM PDT reply actions  

Whoops, Ianni wasn't in the 18

So he wasn’t an option. Has he picked up an injury that I missed hearing about?

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by 108Ultra on Jun 18, 2011 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ianni played 45 in Monday's reserve match

and I didn’t see him on the injury report.

by MicahRowe18 on Jun 18, 2011 11:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

3 games in in a week

We always get the CB rotation for this week. Ianni obviously drew the short straw of having to play both Thursday and Sunday, so Sigi probably just decided to give him the complete rest and trust Parke and Hurtado not to pick up a stupid red card….

by blakec on Jun 19, 2011 7:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

it has to be said

I don’t see the 4-2-3-1 and the “free role” for Montero as any sort of revelation. I’m certainly glad to be rid of the diamond, but a return to the basic tactics that Sigi had used predmoninatly up until the Zakuani injury doesn’t strike me as much of a breakthrough, nor does using Montero as a trequartista, something it seemed was apparent as his best role for some time now. And even given all this, at halftime this struck me as a carbon-copy of the Chicago match: a decent start that quickly gave away to inspidness.

That the Sounders played their best stretch with 10 men is interesting, and as mentioned above may have somehting to do with getting Neagle off, who was having a woeful performance. Even giving their improved play after being reduced to 10 and Sigi making a couple changes – which included switching Montero as a lone striker when Fernandez came on for Fucito – we were still pretty lucky that Toronto didn’t score off a glorious opportunity that barely stayed out off the post.

In the end we’ll take it any way we can get it. Montero still has considered to not be living up to what was expected regarding his production despite scoring today, and it still seems as if there are a lot of issues with geting our attack to click. But we managed to beat a bad team on the road and getthe 3 points which were there for us, despite beign reduced to 10… so at least we have that going for us…

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 18, 2011 11:30 PM PDT reply actions  

so im just watching the game for the first time

and dang montero, fernandez, and rosales are brilliant at keeping possession when we are winning.

by Sandra_R on Jun 19, 2011 12:50 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

jake you seem.....

Extra malcontent tonight. We won on the road down a man its okay to be contentjake every once in a while.

by python6114 on Jun 19, 2011 4:16 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

it is what it is

I’m certainly happy for the three points. The match happened the way it happened…

luck plays a bigger factor in sporting outcomes than many of us are comfortable acknowledging…

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 19, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

As long as it keeps evening out

I have no problem being on the positive end of a few of these. Last week, we probably should have gotten three, this week we did. I feel no need to wring my hands over it.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 19, 2011 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

don't get me wrong

I take it and run.. I’ll take it any way we can get it… :-)

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 19, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

going forward

I think neagle did a good job covering for fernandez, but now that fernandez is healthy again I expect neagle back to the bench. Rosales, evans, fernandez and alonso is a great midfield. I expect to see us creating a lot more chances now that we have a consistent starting midfield that has been able to gel a bit, I expect that to get better with time too.

by python6114 on Jun 19, 2011 4:19 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Fernandez...

It was great to see Fernandez back in action. He should’ve taken the shot though towards the end of the game rather than passing it to Montero. Maybe he wanted Montero to have that chance since he was under so much pressure to produce yesterday. In any case, I’m glad Fernandez is back just in time because we’re definitely going to need this quartet (Fernandez, Evans, Alonso, Rosales) in the midfield to beat NY on Thursday.

by ssfc on Jun 19, 2011 8:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Thursday's lineup

Keller
Riley, Parke, Ianni, Wahl
Alonso, Fernandez, Rosales, Evans
Montero, Jaqua

I think we see Fucito pulled for some height to deal with NYRBs back line.

by bmvaughn on Jun 19, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Let's not forget

How Olave pushed Fucito around and completely dominated him.

by Dan Olson on Jun 19, 2011 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sorry, I meant Olave

had Marquez on the brain with RedBull coming up.

Ream will still be gone

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by Dave Clark on Jun 19, 2011 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

actually Fucito did stuggle with John

and gave Olave a couple of questionable maybe-cheap shots early in that match to try to get in his head. It worked.

more moral ambiguity ;-)

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 19, 2011 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever works

Kind of like a first day in prison, beat the biggest guy up and the rest leave you alone….or so I’ve heard.

by Dan Olson on Jun 19, 2011 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

I hope most of our forwards can struggle like Fucito did against John

creating multiple opportunities and being the focal point of the offense.

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by Dave Clark on Jun 19, 2011 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

well, yeah

throw and elbow and grab a jersey if you have to. don’t get me wrong, we need more of that amongst out attackers!

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jun 19, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Fucito led the team in shots

shots on goal, chances

and was not quite taken down in the box preventing a probable goal. He did great against John

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by Dave Clark on Jun 19, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well that sucks

Probably needs to keep off it for a while. At the start of the season I wondered what we were going to do with all these midfielders. Now, I’m glad we have them.

by Dizzo on Jun 19, 2011 10:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

From another perspective

We finally are deep enough that if a player is much less than 100%, there is probably a better option off the bench. It’s nice that guys are able to get recovery time immediately should they take a serious nock. It seems like that in addition to having a higher rate of injuries occuring to players, all these injuries are also being overcome at a much quicker pace than in the past.

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by Little old me on Jun 20, 2011 9:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Am I the only one

who thought it was Rosales, not Neagle, who was having an off night prior to the red? Felt like I saw way too many times where Rosales tried to take it to the defense without a lot of help or inspiration, hoping he could beat them on the dribble, though he rarely did. He did not have nearly as many quality crosses as he normally does, either. He may have played better than Neagle, but he seemed merely adequate before the red.

Yet, after the red, it seemed Rosales realized he might have to go 90 and started playing more patient, possession-oriented soccer, all leading up to the foul and the FK that Montero expertly buried.

Can anyone confirm that they saw something similar to this?

by agtk on Jun 20, 2011 12:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Read my comments in the gamethread

I wasn’t happy with Rosales that night.

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by Dave Clark on Jun 20, 2011 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just read them

Agreed that his aggressiveness was hurting us early. Glad he stayed in though.

by agtk on Jun 20, 2011 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rosales wasn't great

But Neagle was actively bad.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 21, 2011 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

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