CONCACAF Gold Cup: USA v Mexico - Gamethread for readers
by Dave Clark on Jun 25, 2011 5:40 PM PDT
in US National Team, World Cup and Other International Soccer
Email
Print
There are going to be a ton of places you could go to enjoy your online experience of this match-up between the United States and Mexico, but this is our community and our place to enjoy watching the two best teams in the region face for a trophy and ticket to Brazil. The game is on Univision (KUNS in Seattle), Fox Soccer and KJR-AM radio (950 AM) is carrying the Fox Soccer audio.
Bob Bradley has clearly read my post on why Adu should start, as he will be. The Americans look to be playing in a 4-2-3-1 with the attacking four being Alejandro Bedoya, Freddy Adu and Landon Donovan in support of Clint Dempsey. The full lineup consists of the usual suspects, outside of that huge insertion of Adu.
Mexico is the more talented side with Chicarito (Javier Hernandez) starting as the lone forward in their own 4-2-3-1. New York Red Bulls' Rafael Marquez will be at centerback as is now the norm. It is a stacked, and unsurprising force.
The USA will be the underdog in this long and heated rivalry. But in a one off Final all that matters is this single game and the goals that are scored. About 70,000 of the 90,000 at the Rose Bowl will be rooting for El Tri, as is typical, but this could be the day when an American side can proudly say "Nos Audietis"
Beer: Rogue Double Mocha Porter
Scarf: Nos Audietis (~10 left contact Jeremiah)
Kit: Army Physical Fitness Trainer
Where I'm Watching: Home
Nos Audietis In Somniis | Nos Audietis In Altum
You Will Hear Us In Your Sleep | You Will Hear Us From The Deep
447 comments
|
0 recs |
Do you like this story?
Comments
I don't
but I’m always hopeful. Hope is why I love sport.
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
question
any possibly that Bradley could be fired as coach if this end up being similar to 0-5 nil loss to mexico in the gold cup final?
I think making the Final is good enough for him
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
Yea
i still shudder at the last gold cup final score.
I think I'm still traumatized from that one.
by wyte_lightning on Jun 25, 2011 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions
That's was the US C team
remember who played Right back in that tourney?
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
I guess I didn't realize/remember that.
Impress me, who was the RB??
by wyte_lightning on Jun 25, 2011 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
because of the Confederations Cup
The US sent a batch of nobodies, ok, it had Adu, Altidore and Davies, but for the most part was very youth heavy.
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
I know friends who had bad feelings about Spain two years ago
We were given no chance of winning that match, but I still knew it was possible. I think, with the current lineup, we have a great chance. And like Dave, I am always hopeful. I am sick of people writing off Bradley before the games are even played. There are things to dislike about him, but has been a much better coach than he is given credit for.
Chicarito has never faced the USA
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
I didn't realize he scored 20 goals for ManU this past season.
Also, 23 years old? Jesus he’s gonna be around for a long time.
by wyte_lightning on Jun 25, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
And better than any player in Red, White and Blue
but it takes more than one
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
With the midfield absolutely jam-packed, the play of the fullbacks is going to be huge.
In other words: we got this.
USA plays well in underdog role
It seems to me the US NT plays well when there is no pressure or expectations. I have a good feeling about this game. I struggle to understand why Rose Bowl was selected for the final. The final should be played in some place where the US team would have an advantage of home support.
How would that benefit CONCACAF?
Because this is their tourney, not the USA’s.
Too bad Jerry Jones is an idiot and he didn’t make New Cowboy’s stadium wider.
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
Is the new cowboy's stadium not fit for soccer?
I’m pretty sure they’ve already hosted a GC match- first group stage involving Mexico, IIRC.
It is a touch too narrow
So was reluctantly chosen for Group stage
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
I'm insanely jealous and should have gone
by lemonverbena on Jun 25, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions
even if rooting for the wrong team
every year a few less though
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
eh, i'll take electricity over ... simply us support
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
This will always be electric
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
Demonstrates our country's greatness if anything
by lemonverbena on Jun 25, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions
This is true
it may take a few generations, but there are future USA fans in that crowd today
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
what makes america great
is the ability to welcome the world. I have zero problem with people choosing to support other national teams. It just makes for a livelier debate.
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't have a problem
I have hopes
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
fair enough
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
It sounds like the loudspeakers are on full blast
Can’t wait for the Cliff to sound like that for a Sounders home game.
Adu's play there was very good
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
AAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
by agtk on Jun 25, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
8th minute and USA scores
It looked like Roger
Adu with service, Michael Bradley the goal
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
I was just thinking the same thing
Exact same goal as Roger scored
by wyte_lightning on Jun 25, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions
straight out of the roger levesque playbook :)
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:14 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Wind blew a little stiffly there
And the mexican team fell over
Adu is suddenly the best american player
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
He leveled up
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
by Dave Clark on Jun 25, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
what hte hell is this?
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
I'm watching a stream from eurosport2
the brits are pretty good
way bettr than fsc
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions
also "puto"
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Nick Punto is a long time Mexican fan favorite
by Matthew on Jun 25, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
oh, nm then
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Thank you
was spelling it phonetically from what people have yelled from seats by me at CCL matches and friendlies
i think we got the idea, in any case
just figured i’d share. altho, punto is a word in spanish … just means something less dirty.
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't settle down
keep the pressure.
Define the game on your own.
Attack the ball. Attack the goal.
Know. Think. Choose. Do
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
oh my oh my oh my oh my
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
I really like AD&D
so expansive, more precise, just a higher level of play
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
seriously, watch this game in spanish
it’s waaaaaaaaaaay better
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
You understand enough believe me
by lemonverbena on Jun 25, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm watching on Univision,
and while yes, I can infer, I don’t understand
i don't understand spanish well enough to really follow
but just the excitement in their voices makes up for it.
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
it's in hd for me
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I have been as critical of Bob Bradley as anyone, but the first 25 minutes has been absolutely perfect in every sense
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 25, 2011 6:31 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Click Action
Click Rec
That’s a Plus One that shows.
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
by Dave Clark on Jun 25, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
i do
hope one day there will be a game against Mexico here in the us where the majority of the fans are rooting for US.
I more hope that one day there will be a game against Mexico
that’s a big enough deal to show on a real network.
By next Gold Cup this will be on Fox
the real Fox
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
They must be kicking themselves for not having this one
by lemonverbena on Jun 25, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Yep, they'll finish at best 3rd on the night
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
I want Adu back in MLS NOW
Not tomorrow, NOW. NOW.
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
by Dave Clark on Jun 25, 2011 6:33 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Benefica could use an attacking mid :/
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 25, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions
They might now.
He dominated at Rizespor.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 25, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions
28th minute tactical sub
That means you are getting HANDLED.
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
What a strange goal
Looks like Howard couldn’t make up his mind
that was a tad too easy
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
I'm thinking 3-2 or 2-3
Thus far I think Mexico has far outplayed the US. It’s just one of those cases where US has had 2 chances and taken both, and Mexico has had about 5 and taken 1. Really doubt either team will run away with it.
So
US blows the lead and ends up winning it 4-2 with a sub scoring the game winner and the 4th goal as well?
Freddy Adu practiced at Starfire
on Turf back in 2009
Just saying
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
by Dave Clark on Jun 25, 2011 6:41 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
It'll
be interesting to see how the ref deals with the potential diving. I would hate to see the game decided based on the ref refusing to call anything for diving.
You say that like
it’s a new thing.
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity"
by bmathews206 on Jun 25, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
best gold cup final ever? guarante it
It’s not over guys.
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
14 touched it and was offside
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
if it was
offsides how the hell did the stupid AR missed it?
Replay clearly showed he did
off his heel
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
Just watched it slo mo in HD
There’s daylight even at the closest point, on the net cam, which was the closest, best angle.
yeah, not sure how he touches it, sure looks like he didn't
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
he didn't touch it
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Even if not
he was offside when the ball was first played, and pulled the defender out of position. There is a case that he was part of the play before our defender touched it back to Howard.
He was offside on the shot, after which the defender didn't move, and Chicarito was not active.
He was onside when it was first played. This is on the defender, not the ref.
I don't see how he pulls Lichaj off.
Lichaj plays the ball, loses his balance and then doesn’t he even make an effort on the rebound
by Matthew on Jun 25, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
this is not on the ref
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
In fairness, the first two US goals went against the run of play. That is on the US.
But 14 was offside on the original pass on the Mexican’s second goal. Way offside, which drew a defender away. The card on Donovan was crap, and the fouls are not being called the same both ways.
singing the miner's refrain
No.
He was clearly onside on the pass. Lichaj played the ball, sort of fell, and after that Chicharito was offside, but inactive. If we had the same goal wiped off for offside, people would be whining like crazy.
watch the replay again, he stepped off a few seconds before the pass was made. his offside positioning drew the defense even more out of whack than they already were.
singing the miner's refrain
Just watched it, again
Paused it at the exact moment it comes of Gio’s foot. He is completely behind Lichaj’s back foot. in fact, Lichaj actually has both arms on either side of him.
i did have that feeling
the ref will not be calling a fair game.
stop it with this crap
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I disagree.
Haven’t seen anything to put this on the ref
That was a dirty kick to the face
if we did that to Mexico they’d be crying for a red. Amateur move.
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity"
WTF
stupid ref. I can’t see in any league where that is not a foul or at least a yellow if not red.
oh good
grief i find it ridiculous. So not even the darn side refs saw it?
I never like seeing his name in the lineup
when it comes to big games. Usually a liability, average at best.
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity"
Michael Bradley is magical at putting himself into space
And then wasting it
I think he practices sailing it over the bar like that
by lemonverbena on Jun 25, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions
LOL
the way we been shooting i expect Alonso to get a hat trick against Magee.
Little known fact....
Mexico’s National Team is sponsored by Soul Glo.
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity"
This just put a huge smile on my face
by wyte_lightning on Jun 25, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Or something. As a person granted asylum
I have no idea how citizenship works for him. Does he carry a green card?
This game shouldn’t be tied. Mexico has had the US on its heels the whole time, they could easily be up 3 or 4 nothing.
singing the miner's refrain
Buh?
The US played really well until Salcido came off.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 25, 2011 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions
I always
disliked the fullbacks coming forward.
Stop playing a high line
With CB’s slower than their forwards, especially when they’ve been launching quick counters all game.
I've actually thought that, personnel-wise, we hurt more at CB than striker
We tend to be big and slow back there. We have good mids. We have some decent enough fullbacks. We tend to have decent wingers. But we always lack a finisher and a fast CB.
Man, something is wrong with me I guess
This is the most enjoyable us half i’ve ever seen. I love this. We were throroughly outplayed and go into halftime tied. I’ll take it.
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
Spanish channel KUNS
Radio 950 AM, as detailed in the topic’s body way above. Couple streams floating around too.
Looks
like it’ll be on roots sports later.
Yea
forgot there was a baseball game going on here hence the delay.
This is the rare time a Timbers win would help
Dallas is ahead of Seattle
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
really FSC?
Adu, Dempsey and Donovan’s positioning is the problem?
Are you actually watching the game?
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
Yeah take Adu out, he's definitely a huge issue in this game
What a dumb move by Bradley.
by wyte_lightning on Jun 25, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Stu Holden is the only person on that stage that isn't an idiot
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 25, 2011 6:59 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Christopher Sullivan is actually good
These aren’t the idiots that are calling the game. Wynalda is pretty intelligent as well but can now and again get too cute.
people, that ball did not hit Chicharito. it just didn't. so stop
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
More importantly, even if it did
as I’ve been telling Jeremiah in chat
It doesn’t matter. Superman couldn’t make that call. By NFL replay rules that’s a call worthy of a challenge, but one that in 80% challenges doesn’t get overturned.
The AR made the right call. I say this as someone who thinks it touched him
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
It's amazing that the only scoreless game so far today
is one that featured a side with 10 men for 50 minutes and playing a mid at keep
The desk hosts on Univision
are exactly what I expected to see.
Sounders Supporters like me are
spoiled by Arlo.
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity"
by bmathews206 on Jun 25, 2011 7:07 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Totally unrelated but
What channel on Directtv is Root?
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
oh, for some reason was expecting to see the timbers game...
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Root
will be showing it at 10:30pm then tomorrow and monday.
Mexico only has one sub left
and the way this game is going – potential Overtime and Penalties – that could suck for them
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
wow this appears to be a significant formational change
Dempsey appears to be back in MF, Donovan up top
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
He has tourette's....
but I think all keepers do to a certain point.
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity"
man our defense is just awful
shouldn’t that be one area where the US is capable of producing decent players?
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
Dude, I hate that stuff as much as anyone but the defense is playing like ass
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 25, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Worst dive of the game was Dempsey
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 25, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't
care who doing the diving i would like to see ref actually start actually carding them for it.
fuck that was just class
shit. our defense really is awful
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
One of my biggest pet peeves
is ball-watching, not marking up.
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity"
They had the ball in the attacking third for 15 seconds
And we can’t get back for crap and we can’t man mark for crap.
the fuck is lichaj doing there?
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
Considering I said 3-2 or 2-3...
I really think I’m going to be wrong. No way this finishes without at least another goal, or two.
yea
i agree with you there but it probably end up the opposite of the score i would hoping it would be.
explosión ofensiva de mexico!
i love univision.
it makes this game enjoyable
Super Double Chocolate Doomfinger Doomed
This team needs adu so bad, how anyone says "take him out" proves you shouldn't watch in english
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 7:18 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
or do
what Saunders did throw a elbow and get sent off.
IMO Saunders didn't deserve that Red, a yellow sure, but the red was excessive.
especially considering that Lenhart had to headbutt him to hit the ball out from under his arm.
Yes he did deserve that red
if your going to throw an elbow at some one, you are putting yourself risk to being sent off.
Lenhart was indeed carded for headbutting the ball. But Saunders on the other hand should have done absolutely nothing but yet threw an elbow at Lenhart.
thats why I prefaced it with IMO.
I considered his elbow to be more of a motion to seal off the ball from Lenhart than a deliberate, violent elbow. Hence it would of been a yellow for reckless challenge and not a red for violent conduct.
Could
the ref given Saunders a yellow sure. But letter of law says other wise. While it was only to seal the ball from Lenhart he still threw the elbow at the player’s head and that is a red card.
i seen elbows to the head where the player hand to get bandaged up but the red didn’t do squat about it.
if you think the elbow was purposefully aimed at Lenhart's head, then it's violent conduct and a straight red.
If you think it’s wasn’t intentionally aimed as his head, then it’s a reckless challenge and a yellow. Either way it’s entirely up to the ref. If thats Cillian Sheridan instead of Lenhart, it hits him in the shoulder and Saunders only gets a yellow. Letter of the law leaves it up to the ref to make the call if it was violent or simply reckless.
I think part of the problem is he's not a winger.
He is a pure CAM. He can play winger, and his skills make it tempting for coaches to put him at wing, but he’s so much better when he can pick a side.
can we fire bradley for not putting adu on the the 10 WC team?
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 7:20 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
imo
if it was me i would have gotten rid of him last last year after the world cup.
by gstommylee on Jun 25, 2011 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Personally, I thought that continually putting Findley out there was enough.
Didn’t we win the one game Findley didn’t play in?
I think it was Spencer Hall that said
that Bradley’s a genius a making the tactical decisions that Bradley makes
Super Double Chocolate Doomfinger Doomed
clarity fail
decisions to correct the mistakes that bradley makes
Super Double Chocolate Doomfinger Doomed
by BarnacleKB on Jun 25, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Nice free kick from Adu tho
Good to see him doing well
Well, even if we do lose, I am happy with this Gold Cup
1. I know have renewed hope in Freddy Adu. He looks like one of our more dangerous attackers today.
2. We’re looking decent attacking, even without Altidore. That’s a good sign.
3. This is more of a question, but how has Agudelo looked? Can he be a long term answer at forward for the US?
can't believe i'm saying this...
but we are totally getting outphysicaled in the box. And the ref is probbly letting too much go :(
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
Bocanegra asked GDS
didn’t you used to play for Spurs?
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity"
Well, we're certainly dangerous on set pieces aren't we
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
Please save us Dempsey...
Or any other American
Hasn't this team played like crap pretty much all tourney?
I haven’t seen the US look world-class
They turned it around and looked real Jamaica and Panama, so yes
by lemonverbena on Jun 25, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions
Weren't those both 1-0 wins?
I saw bits of those games, and against those opponents, mehhhhhhhhhhhh
They pretty much destroyed both of them
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 25, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Mex is better than us, but not by this howling much
by lemonverbena on Jun 25, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Exactly
People keep saying that we can’t get rid of Bradley, because we beat [insert name of CONCACAF pushover]. We’re not good. We could potentially be good. But we are not.
I think people have really, really unrealistic expectations of the US national team.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 25, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't expect them to win the world cup
I expect them to be better than paint-dryingly boring, and be much more tactically sound. When the coach has to make first half subs in the world cup, that’s bad. When we sneak by teams that have pretty much nobody playing in a decent league, while we have guys in the Premier League, Bundesliga, France, etc., something is wrong.
US has more players in Europe's big 4 than Mexico
I don’t think it’s unrealistic to beat Mexico, but then again I don’t think it’s unrealistic for an expectation of Mexico to beat the US with Hernandez up top.
Mexico also has a far better domestic league
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 25, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I think tactics and preparedness have a lot to do with our not goodness
And that’s all Bradley Sr.
by Thalas on Jun 25, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
wanted to blame lichaj
But man, that was perfect
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
He had like a 1 foot window
And he hit it…amazing
so many close calls
as bad as us has played, they keep creating chances. really think there’s hope here
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
Man, if Bradley kept that on target, we'll be down 1 with 10 minutes to go
That would be exciting… but down 2 with 10 minutes to go isnt looking so good
by SeahawksPhan on Jun 25, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Adu has looked good for 80 minutes now
Great backpass to set up Bradley on the edge of the box. He’s deserved a permanent spot on the team for the next year at least.
his payday is coming, i think
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
He's looked great as an attacking mid/wing player
I don’t know that I’d expect goals out of him which is what a lot were expecting of him years back, but he’s very talented with the ball at his feet, he made some great runs, his 2 man play with Cherundolo early was brilliant, yeah.
I've only seen him play for 2 games
But hell yea!!! I agree
by SeahawksPhan on Jun 25, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Why not pull a defender?
Not like any of them are doing anything anyways
by Matthew on Jun 25, 2011 7:50 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
yeah weird
protect the two goal loss?
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 25, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Looks like it
playing not to get embarrassed. Always 6 behind the ball. At least on my crappy stream.
Nos Audietis
Cherundolo loss might have been
where we lost the game.
"Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity"
Yeah, he's not the captain of a Bundesliga squad for no reason
His defense as well as his skill in the attack and how well he looked to mesh with Adu early, Jones’ bad tackle hurt him.
by Thalas on Jun 25, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well
i guess i was only half right. I just had it reversed.
man, mexico was the better team
but we had too many chances and didn’t convert.
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
He had to pluck it out of the air with his wrong foot
That wasn’t a gimmie
Will say this, games like this only improve the rivalry
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
This has to improve our odds for 2013 right?
:)
Editor/writer at Sounder at Heart, MLS editor SB Nation. Follow me on Twitter
It sucks after being 2:0 up,
Almost any other day, two goals scored would be enough for the win in this competition. Defense, who is usually the most reliable part of the US NT, looked really bad today. I am not blaming Howard for any goals, but he did not stop anything today. Even with all that bad defending, there were chances for the US to get back in the game when Mexico was up 3:2 and 4:2. Hopefully, the US NT will learn from this defeat and mistakes. Also, credit to Mexico because they are really good team. They just have better ball handling skills, and they were more physical today, which was surprising.
Credit Mexico
for switching their tactics early. It seemed to me that they realized early on that the US could, and would, hold possession and move the ball patiently upfield. Mexico also realized that the speed and skill of Barrera, Dos Santos, and Hernandez were too much for the US back line to deal with, especially with Cherundolo injured. Thus, the bunker and counter, which was exploited with ruthless efficiency.
Comments For This Post Are Closed
Secondary Sidebar
User Tools
Related FanPosts on Sounder At Heart
FanPosts
Community blog posts and discussion.
