Seattle Sounders Transfer Rumor: Lucas Neill Agrees To Terms?
UPDATE II: We've been informed by the Sounders that they do, indeed, have interest in Neill, but that was all the team would say.
UPDATE: According to a Turkish website (H/T MLS-Rumors), Lucas Neill has agreed to terms with the Sounders. We're awaiting some kind of confirmation, although this still seems a bit far-fetched. Neill would seem to be a very high-priced player at a position that doesn't seem to be at the top of the Sounders' priority list. We have calls out to the appropriate places to see if we can't get some comment.
It may not be every day, but it looks like twice a week that the Seattle Sounders will be connected with a significant transfer rumor. Today, it is Lucas Neill. The Australian National Team Captain and Galatasaray centerback is connected specifically to the Seattle Sounders by Turkish site Fanatik (h/t KevinAirs442 - Australia). Neill is likely best known in the United States for his club time with Blackburn, West Ham and Everton.
At 33 years old, not a striker, and without a huge marketing appeal he seems like an odd addition to MLS. He is reported to be vacationing/working in the USA and is conversing with MLS about joining the league. Seattle is a team that could use depth at right back, where Neill has experience but wouldn't need a centerback, even at his level, unless they are trading one of their quality players there already.
Neill is embroiled in controversy from the last World Cup when reports surfaced that he lead a player revolt. He will not be in the future plans of the national team any way, but it could be seen why he would not be going back to the A-League, where he would have to be a Marquee Player. There is a slightly higher salary cap in MLS than the A-League, but this looks like a move for one last contract and not the type of player to which Seattle is usually attached.
The Sounders will continue to find themselves connected to players as they are fairly rich (for global football), have the space to sign a big name and have a certain level of fame. In 99% of cases these connections will be leverage to earn players big money elsewhere. Hello silly season, where you are a featured part.
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way i see this being possible if Seattle trades ianni away for better allocation order position. We may need a RB but we don’t need is another CB.
I'm beginning to think the Sounders have taken the place of the Red Bulls as the generic MLS team the rumor mill connects players to
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 27, 2011 9:20 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Yea
i haven’t really heard much rumors that were linked to NY.
Which is odd
because NY has a DP slot open. Not that I expect foreign media to understand that, but still.
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Cap
space is the potential issue with NY though. They may be able to sign a DP at half the cap hit but looking into 2012 season they will have to figure out where the rest of the cap space for the 3rd DP spot is coming from.
Mixed feelings
Love that the MLS is now seen as a “positive destination” for many international footballers.
Don’t love the fact that the MLS is seen as a retirement home for many international footballers.
Love that SSFC is apparently up there with NYRB and LAG as a “desireable destination” within the MLS.
Don’t love the talk of spending on this position when we have other, more glaring needs.
We need depth at RB
but is he the guy to do that? If we’re talking depth, a higher paid player doesn’t seem like the best option. Especially at age 33.
by chrisperry1983 on Jun 27, 2011 11:26 AM PDT reply actions
I agree
the big question how much is he looking for.
Any amount seems like it would be too much
When all we need in the back is RB depth and have glaring needs on the other side of the pitch.
Also, if we’re going to address depth issues – I’d rather find a younger, cheaper guy that we can develop behind Riley. Not someone who would essentially replace Riley for a year or two at great expense.
by ABTsportsline on Jun 27, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
My thoughts exactly
Riley has had a little dip in form earlier, but he’s a starting quality MLS right-back. He’s also very reliable and usually consistent. What we need is a younger guy as a back-up since Scott leaves a lot to be desired as a RB at the MLS level.
That is precisely what I was thinking
We (IMO) don’t need a replacement for Riley. We need another Wahl – someone who is capable and will thrive in the reserves, then step up.
by chrisperry1983 on Jun 27, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I think Tetteh is exactly that guy
2 goals from a fullback position in 6 games with a ton of upside? Anyone know if he can play RB?
by Tohoya on Jun 30, 2011 12:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Smart Man
Riley is a good consistant Right Back. He’s not great, but rarely is he terrible. I think it would be a waste of resources to spend big money on someone to replace him, unless its Dani Alves or Philipp Lahm.
"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."
Buzzzzzzzz
That’s the sound of me hitting the button and him being ejected.
I’d love to get a quality center back. The kind that makes folks know that absolutely nothin’ is getting through and the defense will always be in position to make a play. The kind who consistently makes the right pass to spring the offense. But it would cost us a bundle and folks would just scream if we spent that kind of money on a CB and not a glossy, high scoring forward or attacking mid.
NYRB fans were seemingly okay with Marquez as a DP
But our roster situations are different, and we are pretty solid at CB for now.
Marquez also has a significantly better resume
I’m sure nobody would complain if we signed somebody of his level. Neill is nowhere near that.
Not saying that Neill is that guy
But if you read swansong’s second paragraph, that description could apply to Marquez and except for our existing quality at centerback, I don’t think that fans would scream just because we spent a lot of money on a world-class center back and not a “glossy, high scoring forward or attacking mid” if that player was indeed world-class. I’m basically just saying that a DP CB could make sense and be accepted by fans, though I don’t think Neill is that guy.
Not only that but Marquez sells tickets
probably the third most recognizable non-American/Canadian in the league.
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I think that Seattle fans are pretty savvy
And I don’t think they need a name or a particular position at DP as long as the player is a high-quality player. Again, I’m not saying Neill is the guy, I’m just saying that we’re not bound by position or big names here as long as we make a high-impact move.
Win/Loss impact first and foremost
Team Needs second
Name third
I agree with that.
Though a big name could get CenLink to 45k regularly
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What about fame or if he was lame? Is it the same?
That would be a shame. Who would you blame?
by Brian Floyd on Jun 27, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Are you insane?
"But who would listen to Little Old Me anyway?"
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and -thehemogoblin
by Little old me on Jun 29, 2011 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Ar these rumours in vain? Or is Phillip Lahm on a train?
by CapHillSounder on Jun 29, 2011 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions
If this doesn't stop
I will beat you with my cane.
by B-Lot tailgater on Jun 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
t'would be in vain.
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by Seattle Coug on Jun 29, 2011 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if Pacman is still making it rain?
by ABTsportsline on Jun 29, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
If thats what you're looking for
I suggest Lil’ Wayne
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by Seattle Coug on Jun 29, 2011 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions
You guys are all super lame
"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."
this game is too tame, I'm filled with shame
by Philip Mueller on Jun 29, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
No way!
Definitely going in the hall of fame.
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by Seattle Coug on Jun 29, 2011 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions
This could go on all day.
"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."
quit with the rhyming
and I mean it
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Looks like someone doesn't want this to turn into Lookout Landing
;)
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by Seattle Coug on Jun 29, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Or making a Princess Bride Reference
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It seems
We have preference
To give your wishes deference
"But who would listen to Little Old Me anyway?"
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and -thehemogoblin
by Little old me on Jul 2, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounders fans are pretty savvy. . . . .
I have noticed an increase in the “what’s offsides?” crowd this year, but those fans aren’t going to know any of the “names” anyway. The rest of us just want someone that’s going to help us get points. I’d love to see an early-mid twenties striker on the edge of their national team trying to prove they deserve a spot.
I look forward to the day the crowd stops booing obviously correct offsides calls
by ABTsportsline on Jun 28, 2011 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Oi...or the guy behind me some where yelling "I CANT SEE"....
…every time I raised my scarf.
by Timm Higgins on Jun 28, 2011 7:45 AM PDT up reply actions
That will never happen
In baseball, fans boo practically every pickoff attempt the other team makes even if it is really good baseball for the pitcher to be holding the runner close. People will boo things that go against their team, whether they are justified or not.
Plus, from different areas of the stadium, an obvious offside call is harder to tell, depending on your angle.
True.
I am amazed at people that know the rules really well that still just can not get past their own team bias. I have multiple times a game where I disagree with crowd sentiment but probably still do it as well. But seriously sometimes it is so obvious and yet still a freind will deny what his eyes are telling him.
Scoreboards, not billboards.
Regular season, not pre-season.
I try to be somewhat objective about what is happening on the field...
…and if the crowd starts booing a call that’s obviously correct, sometimes I’ll chuckle and join in. It’s a bit silly, but if the crowd’s booing, they’re paying attention to what is going on, even if they shouldn’t be officiating.
Let's not get carried away
We don’t know how much his contract would be. Calling him ‘high priced’ and assigning him marketing responsibility is a bit premature b/c we don’t know anything about how much the team would be paying him yet.
Also, though the team really is built to succeed at Open Cup, CCL and MLS at the same time, Jaqua, Ianni, Noonan and Gonzalez combine for 502,000 worth of salary that hasn’t seen much daylight this season. Moving 1-2 of those guys if/when we brought in Tagoe as a DP and Neill would go a long way to free up some space.
When you have depth concerns, dumping four guys to make room for one doesn't really help
especially when the one guy is 33.
by ABTsportsline on Jun 29, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
It's what you're getting at, though
Moving multiple guys from our current rotation to make room for one.
Personally, I think we have the talent. We just need to improve our depth. Obliterating depth to marginally improve talent isn’t something I’m a big fan of, especially right now when the number of non-league games is starting to pick up.
by ABTsportsline on Jun 29, 2011 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions
Well don't worry
I don’t think his price tag will be nearly as high as people are fearing. If the FO indeed brings him in it won’t be at the cost of Cup success. The Sounders have made it clear time and time again that success in the cups is a point of emphasis for the team.
Fair point
We’re all wildly speculating on what his salary would be. I’m only opposed to the guy if we’re talking a prohibitive salary.
If we can land the guy for a reasonable sum that doesn’t hinder our ability to find striker help, I wouldn’t complain.
by ABTsportsline on Jun 29, 2011 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
He's coming from a top european league
I can assure you he’s at least making six figures if he’s coming here.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 29, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Also,
It’s probably not a DP deal and it’s probably around 100-200k. I’m okay with that.
I'd say all qualify as "high-priced"
when considering the cap situation.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 29, 2011 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions
That 100-200k blocks a 3rd DP from signing
that’s what a half season DP cap hit is.
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We don't really know that...
Without knowing the full scope of allocation money. These are monies that aren’t released by the league and aren’t really discussed publicly. They do this because MLS is a league w/ a cap operating in a world football landscape without one, and it allows the league/club to maintain leverage in negotiations with agents.
So, sure, we could speculate about it. But until I hear Henderson/Hanauer say ‘if we do move 1 we can’t do move 2’. I’ll refrain.
Indeed
i just don’t see it happening unless Seattle options up additional cap space.
Any idea how much allocation money the FO is sitting on?
Wonder if they buy him down to fit in and trim the fat this offseason.
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by Seattle Coug on Jun 29, 2011 11:02 AM PDT up reply actions
no one does
It’s a very closely guarded secret.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 29, 2011 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
I'd argue
that with a defense that simply can’t seem to find a way to put up back-to-back zeros, CB is a definite area that could improve. That said, this ain’t the guy.
Also, I keep floating this out there, but I don’t think we’ll have Parke indefinitely. He has stated time and time again over the past 3 seasons (yes, when he was playing with Vancouver) that he wants to end his career back east, preferably in NY or Philly. Given his age, I think our management will do their best to honor that request……. as long as it’s a value for value situation.
Parke is 29.
Thats still peak for a defender. He has several years left before he needs to consider a final hurrah in his hometown.
"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."
by DarthGreedo on Jun 29, 2011 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions
What is "peak" soccer age?
I know baseball is around age 26-28 and I think basketball is a few years lower.
The general rule in soccer is the closer to the back you get the higher the peak age.
Defenders are late 20’s to early 30’s, Forwards and midfielders peak younger.
"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."
This makes sense actually....
Remember a few weeks ago when Sigi and Adrian both said something to the effect of, “Well, offense is nice, but defense wins the league”? I thought at the time that they might be preparing to do something unexpected and bring in a big time defender during the window. This would fit the bill, but I don’t know a thing about Lucas Neill outside of his age and club.
It would free up the Sounders to trade a defender (maybe Parke?) to an MLS team with a surplus of strikers. This is where the master plan eludes me however, as I just can’t get excited about a player like Kei Kamara (inconsistent), Brian Ching (injuries), or any of the other decent MLS strikers I can think of on teams that need central defensive help. I suppose we could trade a defender for allocation money, and then use that to buy a striker.
How about Teal Bunbury?
KC needs a good central defender badly. CJ Sapong has been showing up Bunbury recently and seems to have taken his starting spot.
I can't see any why KC trades Bunbury
Regardless of his current form he’s as much a play for their future as a marketing tool.
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by Seattle Coug on Jun 29, 2011 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed with Seattle Coug
But that said, if he was available I would absolutely consider trading for Teal. Very bright future for this player.
by ABTsportsline on Jun 30, 2011 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Would take him in a heartbeat
Sigi’s history with developing talent is fantastic, I would have no concerns bringing in talent.
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Would this potentially make more sense...
…if the goal was not depth at center back but rather an upgrade at right back?
It would
And that could be what they plan, but it would seem to make getting another offensive player more difficult and offense is what we’ve been led to believe is what this team is after.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 29, 2011 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions
isn't
there 96k of cap space potentially being opened up assuming Seattle doesn’t resign Noonan?
This, and
wouldn’t it make more sense to get someone younger, cheaper, who would be nearly as effective to play RB rather than a seasoned 33 year-old CB who’s played RB before?
Doesn’t typically jive with SSFC’s past M.O.
by ABTsportsline on Jun 29, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions
And hasn't played right back often in the last three years
right back requires more young man skills. He doesn’t have them.
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with the rumor in this state...
…it’s hard to say with any great precision what exactly the salary situation is with respect to acquiring more offense.
Of all the positions on the field OTHER than target forward, right back is the position most in need of depth for the upcoming fixture congestion, and the position most in need of an upgrade.
And he hasn't been a regular at right back since the 08/09 season with West Ham
With Everton he was merely a spot starter – only 10 league starts, only 5 at right back.
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And I have a hard time believing he can get forward in the way Sigi's system requires of the outside backs
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 29, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thank you.
We lack speed on the wings, and Sigi values his fullbacks.
We need RB depth – no doubt – but a 33-year old? Unless this guy is the Darrell Green of soccer, I don’t see it.
by ABTsportsline on Jun 29, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
spot starting...
-with a decent premier league team is not a terrible credential by MLS standards.
-he wasn’t with Everton a particularly long time
I don’t feel I have enough information one way or the other to say whether he still has the pace to handle the position. I do, however, have enough information to lack confidence in our ability to handle rb well in all upcoming games - our present plan being to either overuse an average MLS right back or give Scott substantial playing time.
Another thing...
Backline players, esp. at CB, have to be good communicators. I’ve gotten the sense this season that, though Seattle isn’t woeful in the back, there are many times where there’s a mental lapse or such disorganization that guys like Montero have to come back and help with clearance.
Neill would address some of these leadership concerns—he’s the captain of his national team and has played in Europe for years.
I have a lot more of a problem securing aging forwards and CMs, but at CB, it’s not nearly as much of an issue.
we also have no idea how much allocation dollars
that participation in CCL will give us. What if it is 150k? So we get a veteran Def for at entry level salary and still have room to go after a FW DP. I think there is no way the FO goes after Neill if it hinders their ability to get another DP.
Those Allocation Dollars are for making the Group Stage
And then at each Knockout stage.
IIRC it was said to be 100k or so.
Seattle can’t have access to that for some time.
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also dont forget
Hanauer said that when Rosales was signed and that N’Kufo was released that he was going to be able to fit both under the cap. So that means that we had 335k cap space then. The only cap player we signed past that was Noonan and it looks like he wont be sticking around. I think we have more flexibility then it appears.
by Colin Johnson on Jun 29, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
right, but cutting Noonan doens't open 96k
it opens 48k.
And Adrian has told this site on a few occaissions that they have room for a DP and 1 player
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yes
but a DP mid season cap hit 167k+ 48k from noonan is 215k which leaves 120k of open space plus the cap space of who we trade/cut to make space for 2 players on the 20 man roster plus whatever allocation we have from trading out of the first round
by Colin Johnson on Jun 29, 2011 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions
which is basically a DP +1 player
I don’t think Neill should be that one player but if the FO thinks they need a little more veteran experience in the back I could go with it. They haven’t let us down so far with signings (N’Kufo and Ljungberg aside)
by Colin Johnson on Jun 29, 2011 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Please spell Blaise's last name properly.
by yuniform on Jun 29, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
sorry I will leave out the apostrophe
I always thought that it had one. My bad.
by Colin Johnson on Jun 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Is there
any shot at Seattle doing similarly to what they did with Rosales’ contract and do the same thing with Neill.
I doubt it
Neill has interest in the A-League so we would be competing with them and with Rosales he had to trial here to get the spot. He really wasn’t wanted anywhere else because of his “failed physical”. We had all the power in negotiations where with Neill he is in the position of power.
by Colin Johnson on Jun 29, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Neill's interest in the A-League is to be a Marquee Player
which is their version of the DP. That’s part of why I think Neill is a costly player.
You don’t turn down a million dollars to return home to sign in Seattle for 100k.
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Yea i'm starting
to wonder if Neill is using Seattle has a way to get more money form the A-league.
You might be right.
That’s what Marcos Flores’ people did with the Timbers.
True
The A-League is a step down imho and he would have to be paid more to go there even if it is his home country. I see Neill being a 175k-200k type player for his age. I can’t imagine the FO throwing away the chance to bring in a DP forward/attacking midfield to sign a 33yo defender if this rumor is true. I think we could fit him and DP under the salary cap. It would mean that we would have to address GK in the off season or make more moves to get more cap but it didn’t really appear that they were looking for a GK anyways\.
by Colin Johnson on Jun 29, 2011 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Rosales
Anyone know how long we have Rosales for? If it’s just this year then he should be re-signed before we spend money anywhere else.
I’m not opposed to changing things up in the defense. How about shipping Leo out? Any chance Colorado would take him for Nyassi?
I doubt
Seattle would be making a trade with Colorado. If Seattle were to make a trade with a team it would have to be with someone that is above #7 in the allocation order. I don’t see trading with someone below is will be that beneficial.
why exactly would you trade...
a still-capable starting left back (of which you have and need 2) for a speedy winger who has a hard time reading the field and putting in a good cross, particularly when you have other players fitting that description who never see the first team?
That
Because Leo is declining and Nyassi is a good prospect
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 29, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If seattle wants
to increase their chances at getting Marcus i don’t see making a trade with Colorado will help us there.
Seattle
also doesn’t need another winger prospect imo.
If Nyassi can play in the reserve league and develop his vision, he could be a tremendous MLS player
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 29, 2011 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions
you could say the same about Montano
or Tetteh for that matter. Even Estrada could develop well, although his optimal position probably remains withdrawn forward rather than winger.
they have good prospects at the same position....
..and they need Leo if they have serious aspirations about competing in all three of MLS, open cup and the CCL.
Colorado
is already out of the Open cup for this year.
trading rosales for nyassi would not be smart
And, no, I don’t think the Sounders would do it anyway.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 29, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
the original question
was Leo for Nyassi. There is no way that Rosales is going anywhere. His production for his cap hit make him steal of the year and most likely Newcomer of the Year.
by Colin Johnson on Jun 29, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I really don't think the sounders are going to trade for nyassi
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 29, 2011 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Nyassi ?
Just to add a little to this…. I have a picture of Sanna Nyassi at our game against New England on sunday. He may have just been here to see his brother play but the rest of his Colorado teammates were on their way to the whitehouse to meet the president (including Marshall). I thought it strange he was at our game – not sure if he is injured
by Gonna Win The League on Jun 29, 2011 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Looking forward to the "Lahm to SSFC?" rumors
At least those would be more fun :-P
by ABTsportsline on Jun 29, 2011 11:54 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't think Neill is coming to Seattle
It doesn’t add up for the Sounders or for Neill. The Sounders have some needs, but I don’t see Neill eliminating any of those needs and I don’t see the Sounders offering anything for Neill that he might especially want at this point in his career.
I would think that way as well
but a bit alarmed at how much traction this story is gaining on twitter. Mayers just confirmed that the interest is there, and Neill is reportedly in the states. Too many coincidences IMO…
by ABTsportsline on Jun 29, 2011 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Neill
being in the states may have nothing to do with Seattle for that matter.
usually when rumors start saying that player has signed
especially on a free it’s usually a good sign of the imminent announcement. Our FO has shown interest and in the past (Friberg) reports have gotten it correct. We have been linked to many players but iirc every report that has said we signed someone it turned out true.
by Colin Johnson on Jun 29, 2011 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions
and
there’s been rumors that’s been absolutely false. (prince getting a offer from Seattle at 200k a week for example) The Friberg rumor had a source from his past club confirming that there was a contract.
Neil
rumor was came form a reporter and could also be from the player himself. You know how rumors players and their agents make in order to get more money else where.
but that was an offer
this is a signing. I understand that rumors are just that, rumors. But when a report says that a player has signed, not agreed to terms, but actually put ink to paper it has more often than not turned out to be true.
by Colin Johnson on Jun 29, 2011 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions
i rather
hear it from Seattle themselves then a Turkish reporter.
I should also read
the rumor is an agreement not a signing. I must have gotten signing on twitter or made up in my brain. My bad.
by Colin Johnson on Jun 29, 2011 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
i'm
just saying don’t be taking want a reporter say as any truth to a possible incoming player signing.
and i trust
mayers. I was referring to the Turkish reports that there is an agreement between Seattle and Neill. I’m questioning the accuracy of that report.
Plus i doubt Mayer would make any comment about anything with out checking to make sure what he is going to say is accurate.
All Mayer is nothing more than there is interest from Seattle.
Not that it matters
But I can also confirm sounders interest in Neill. Doesn’t mean he’s signed … at all.
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 29, 2011 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions
One
thing i don’t get is how can someone take confirmation that team is interested in a player and a report that there is an agreement and think that means that a player announcement is coming.
The front office should be interested in Neill
They should be interesting in Drogba, Forlan, Messi, Altidore, and Prince, too.
That’s a far cry from saying that we’re going to sign any of them.
by LoiteringWithIntent on Jun 29, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
interested
not interesting.
grammar fail.
by LoiteringWithIntent on Jun 29, 2011 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I am going to go with two assumtions here.
The front office knows what it is doing as much as any in the league and if the MLS wants Neill on one of it’s marquee teams it will find a way to make it work. MLS rules are made to be broken as much as any sports league I have ever watched.
Neill isn't a marquee name though
If this was Beckham, Henry, or Ronaldinho, I could see it. But Neill?
by ABTsportsline on Jun 29, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
he
may be a Marquee name in other leagues though but not necessary MLS.
Thank you.
People speaking in absolutes about allocation money, etc. drive me nuts. The fans are in plato’s cave debating the allocation shadows on the wall while MLS/SUM sits outside doing the actual negotiations.
by Samuelson on Jun 29, 2011 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
are you saying that I with my infinite google skills, am not a reputable source for information regarding MLS roster rules?????
how dare you!
A sky of blue, a sea of green...(or claret)
by kelliott1527 on Jun 29, 2011 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I can see the arguments on both sides
As a fan of attacking football, I do want a bone crushing 23 year old striker hungry to prove himself. But as someone who has watched this team all year, I have to admit that I get the argument for bringing weathered experience to the back line. As few clean sheets as we’ve gotten this year, we haven’t exactly been blanked by too many teams either. There’s a reason why we haven’t been losing and it’s because our team is still goal dangerous and with Zaks and OBW coming back eventually, I can understand signing a veteran back if we’re building to win trophies.
by CapHillSounder on Jun 29, 2011 12:29 PM PDT reply actions
Mayers: O'Brian White appears to be participating in a full Sounders FC practice today. Continues to show great improvement.
Maybe the FO is considering NOT buying a DP striker and just waiting for White to return? I hope not…
La Vecchia Signora Forever!
I don't think it's that simple
But Zakuani will come back, eventually as well. If the goal is making sure that we develop young players well, what better example than Lucas Neill to help bring along Leo Gonzalez and presumably Michael Tetteh. If he could do for them what Henry did for Agudelo in NY, we could have a serious future as a defensive stalwart. Developing defense is the best thing if the only option on the market for striker is a 35 year old retiree. I saw, find ways to develop the young guys you have with veterans or dont buy veterans.
by CapHillSounder on Jun 29, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Gonzalez is 30 and Neill has a reputation for being a bit of a prick
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 29, 2011 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions
He does?
Where are you getting that? Is that just from the “player’s revolt” at the WC?
by CapHillSounder on Jun 29, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Because
I have been wondering why he’s bounced around so many different teams in the last few years. I thought it was his aging skill set not his attitude, but if he’s a prick, then that’s a problem. Especially with Keller leaving at the end of the year.
by CapHillSounder on Jun 29, 2011 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd wager his skill has a lot more to do with it.
Some pretty awful human beings have jobs with top-tier teams.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 29, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
If you have the skill
You can afford to be a prick. So perhaps its a combination of the two? Or one, or neither. Would be interesting to find out though.
Just general conversation with people.
Not that such a thing makes a move a non-starter, necessarily, but it’s something to consider.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 29, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Sorry.
That last line should read, “I *SAY, find ways to develop the young guys you have with veterans or dont buy veterans at all.”
by CapHillSounder on Jun 29, 2011 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Even
with white’s return. There are still issues with Jaqua. He has like a couple assists and has yet to score a goal this year. If seattle has wants to compete in all major competitions then the forwards needs be putting balls into the net.
I was
really frustrated with Jaqua yesterday. He should had finished those chances that he had.
Ya.
Ditto. Jaqua has been INCREDIBLY disappointing this year, starting with when he easily lost his starting spot to OBW, who, yes, has done well for Seattle in the games he’s played, but let’s be honest. OBW is not a Marquee forward.
by CapHillSounder on Jun 29, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of the salary cap problems....
AMIRITE?
by CapHillSounder on Jun 29, 2011 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions
He may
not be a marquee forward but i feel he is a better finisher. It didn’t take him long to get his first goal this year.
I am frustrated with Jaqua's lack of scoring also
but it is not like he was shanking easy chances over the goal. It took some pretty great saves to keep him off the scoreboard.
"The fans are excited. And the stadium, well, it ignites with explosion."
I just
don’t think we have the right pieces in order to compete in all 3 competitions.
I mean look at Noonan’s cross yesterday those are get. Get someone that can put those crosses into the net will really help this team. I just don’t think Jaqua is that person.
Are you forgetting
it was Jaqua who nodded the ball down to Fucito’s foot for the first goal? That type of play is exactly what you ask of a TF.
yea
he got assists but that’s the only thing he has done is 3 assists or so. I’m talking about his lack of scoring.
YAY for full practice
BOO for your crazy idea
by chrisperry1983 on Jun 29, 2011 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions
i would imagine soon one way or the other
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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jun 29, 2011 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
"Hmmm, how do I deflect rumours about this Prince signing..."
“I know! I’ll say that there is ‘interest’ in signing an aging central defender that doesn’t make a ton of sense to sign so everyone tries to figure out what I am thinking while I drive over to the bank to withdraw Prince’s signing bonus… Brilliant plan Adrian.”
Would also give them a bit of leverage in contract negotiations if Tagoe think we're looking for a defender more than a forward
by Philip Mueller on Jun 29, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Tagoe also probably doesn't care about that
I’m sure he has more than one suitor. If we won’t pay him, someone else will.
by ABTsportsline on Jun 30, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Does anyone know if Neill would require a DP salary?
by Boz86 on Jun 29, 2011 4:01 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I think he would
According to a website I looked at, he was rumored to be getting $100k a week at Galatasaray. I doubt someone in that position would take such a cut so I would expect that he would have to be a DP if he came.
by Gonna Win The League on Jun 29, 2011 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
which
again is why i doubt hes coming here. Why would seattle agree to a contract that will prevent them from brining in help up front.
Source?
I have q very hard time believing he was on $100k/ week at Gala. Players like Lucas Neill don’t make $5.2m/yr in Turkey.
by Aaron Campeau on Jun 29, 2011 8:44 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
he was making that at West Ham couple years ago,
I doubt that he was making more than $50K at Gala. He would be good for MLS, but also a red card liability for sure. At least, yellow card per match. Not sure if Sounders really need him. Somehow, I am not for it or against it. I would still rather see creative midfielder or winger/forward, but he will be an upgrade too.
A marginally better Tyrone Marshall for near-Beckham money?
SIGN ME UP! /sarcasm
by ABTsportsline on Jun 30, 2011 9:41 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs

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