Zero Arrests, Just Two Ejections From Cascadia Cup Match

Hopefully, league officials look at the first three Cascadia Cup matches and see what they're looking for. According to this report in the Oregonian, there were no arrests and just two people ejected from the game on Sunday. As a comparison, the article points out that nine people were ejected from the 2009 Civil War football game between Oregon and Oregon State. Assuming the various supporters groups can hold it together for matches against the Vancouver Whitecaps, this seems to point in the direction of more tickets being allocated for away supporters.

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I literally just read this and was coming over to post it

Good work to all fans on both sides for behaving like adults!

by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 11, 2011 7:58 AM PDT reply actions

So long as we let Vancouver win

they should be okay! :)

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Regular season, not pre-season.

by lysander on Jul 11, 2011 8:00 AM PDT reply actions

More away allocation?

I was happy with buying from the secondary market so I could sit in non-obstructed seats. Was a bit miffed when their security tried to re-seat us in the supporters section, so we held the line and told them we wanted what we paid for. Simple as that, they let us through.

More away allocation could lead to more drunk buses… not sure if that’s what I want. Would love for some portion of tickets to somehow be set aside for non-SGs (even though I too am an SG member). Just my two cents.. I’ll stop kicking the horse.

by bmvaughn on Jul 11, 2011 8:06 AM PDT reply actions

Ways to handle that...

No reason that more tickets couldn’t be allocated for away support and sold to other STHs.

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jul 11, 2011 8:10 AM PDT up reply actions

As a non SG affiliated fan

I would support additional tickets in the visitors section on a first come, first serve basis to STHs. If SG members get a hold of them first, then so be it. But I don’t think they should get to control anymore tickets than they already do.

by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 11, 2011 8:34 AM PDT up reply actions

I was on one of these "drunk busses"

and yeah, I had a couple beers on the way down, but frankly I was so busy before, during, and after the match I was basically stone sober, and it didn’t sacrifice my enjoyment of what was truly one of the most epic victories I have ever witnessed one bit. As a SG member I think you should know better than to play the “they’re all drunk” card. I also think you should probably acknowledge that it is the hard work and tireless dedication of VOLUNTEER SG organizers who even make this kind of away travel possible. The reason the SG’s get the allocation is because they are who puts on the show, so to speak… not the F.O. or the STH’s – not even the Alliance (and I DO NOT mean to knock the Alliance here).

And the reason that security wanted to put you into the supporters section was actually for your own well-being and enjoyment, as much as you probably reject that idea… there were plenty of people who had non-supporter section seats who were GLAD to be movd in with us!

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jul 11, 2011 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Are you really denying that ECS encourages drinking

“We came to drink, we came to sing”

Pics/tweets of kegstands at 9AM?

Those buses are sold as pre-game rolling bars where you can and should get hammered.

I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
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by Dave Clark on Jul 11, 2011 9:17 AM PDT up reply actions

im a sounder, im seldom sober

supporting sounders drinking beer
full of laughter and full of beer

a lot of our songs have to do with drinking…

A sky of blue, a sea of green...(or claret)

by kelliott1527 on Jul 11, 2011 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions

explain to me where I said there was no drinking

did I not say that I drank on the way down?!

I write a comment defending the volunteers who organize these trips and what you seize upon is the drinking aspect.

this is EXACTLY what I’m talking about
double eye roll

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jul 11, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions

You tried to move the conversation from the "drunk buses"

to something else. bmvaughn is right. they are drunk buses.

you are also right, as I am intimately aware, that the level of organization and dedication by the Supporter Groups is immense.

I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart

by Dave Clark on Jul 11, 2011 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

well maybe that's because I see "drunk busses" is a dismissive quip

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jul 11, 2011 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions

Wait, YOU'RE taking offense at a dismissive quip?

Well, isn’t that ironic? :)

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jul 11, 2011 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions

touche'

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jul 11, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions

Was not meant to be dismissive

I’ve taken them before, I enjoy them. I didn’t want to do that this time. I don’t think having more intoxicated fans (away or home) is a good recipe.

by bmvaughn on Jul 11, 2011 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions

"Brougham Bitter" is a great advertisement for a non-drinking group

Kidding aside, it IS delicious….. But let’s not pretend they’re not fond of the sauce. :)

by ABTsportsline on Jul 11, 2011 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions

Enough with the fear mongoring

This isn’t Europe or South America.

by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 11, 2011 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions

who is fear mongering?

and Europe and South America?! give me a break…. go to a tackle-football rivalry game where supporters are mixed sometime
another double eye roll

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jul 11, 2011 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions

I have been to no less than 15 away tackle football games, rivalry games inluded

Never once have I been touched.

“For your own safety” is complete fear mongering. This idea that you are inherently in danger is the very definition of fear mongering.

But please, keep telling us how dangerous it is.

by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 11, 2011 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

what planet are you from

stating facts is not fear mongering. Did you read the article linked. Gee, how do those 12 disorderly conduct arrests happen? And how is it that there were none at the derby match Saturday?! Would LOVE to hear you theories.

or you could continue to make trite accusations…

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jul 11, 2011 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions

Your opinion of my safety where I am sitting is not a "fact"

“And the reason that security wanted to put you into the supporters section was actually for your own well-being and enjoyment”

by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 11, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions

that is a true statement

whether you choose to acept it or not

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jul 11, 2011 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions

Based on what, exactly?

This idea that fans will default to violence simply because the game being attended is a soccer game is insulting and offensive to adults.

How you cannot understand this is beyond me.

by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 11, 2011 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions

Doesn't matter

’tis a true statement

by Graham MacAree on Jul 11, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions

they happen to people that get far more drunk than I.

I am feel 100% safe going into any supporter section wearing any colors.

Scoreboards, not billboards.
Regular season, not pre-season.

by lysander on Jul 11, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions

Well in their defense we are constantly drunk

by Robert on Jul 11, 2011 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions

speak for yourself

being drunk is counter-productive to the job I have to do on match day. yeah, I drink, its called moderation. And you know what, I encountered a couple of ECS who needed to learn that yesterday…

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jul 11, 2011 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions

I agree that all visiting supporters should be in the same section- SG or not

I also think that SG should have priority over the tickets, but they should not be allocated all these tickets. For your comment about working hard all day and SG putting show, I would just say it is something that you want to do and you should not expect some benefits from it. Do not get me wrong, I think SG are doing great job here, but there is always a danger when SG start thinking they are bigger than club, better than other fans. Practically, they think the games are played because of them, and without them, there would not be games. I saw this happening too much in Europe and South America, so it would be great if we do not have the same problem here.

by seattle 13 on Jul 11, 2011 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs

Don't think all the fans should have to sit in the same section though

by ABTsportsline on Jul 11, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

In every other major sport in this country, fans are almost always mixed throughout the crowd. If NFL and NBA fan bases can “handle” mixing, why can’t MLS?

by ABTsportsline on Jul 11, 2011 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions

they can't

arrests at NFL games are common.

you heard about Dodgers fans attacking Giants fans earlier this year, right?

I have a hard time understanding why people think opposing fans mix well. They don’t

...and you will hear us scream

by malcontentjake on Jul 11, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions

The problems with NFL crowds go way beyond team affiliation

I have seen more fights between Seahawks fans than I have with them and away fans.

And the incident in LA, while extremely unfortunate, is a rare case.

by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 11, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions

because

hundreds thousands of fans have no problems every year.

Scoreboards, not billboards.
Regular season, not pre-season.

by lysander on Jul 11, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions 3 recs

Your citing drunkards being asshats, though

Not every mixing and integration ends in a fight.

Those that see these types of problems usually (read: not always) invite the behavior based on their own.

by ABTsportsline on Jul 11, 2011 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions

You're

by ABTsportsline on Jul 11, 2011 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions

I think that's just my preference

I tihink soccer is much more similar to the college sports atmpsphere wise, so I do not see mixed crowd at Alabama – Auburn. For both of Vanocuver and Timbers here, I was close to random Timbers and Vancouver fans, and I hated every second when they celebrated their goals. There were no incidents, but you know how easy is to start. It is just enough if someone trows some beer or water.

by seattle 13 on Jul 11, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions

MLS has more to lose

They’re less well-established than the other leagues, have a more family-friendly image that they’re trying to protect while still ecouraging supporters’ culture, and the perception of soccer hooliganism, justly or unjustly, means that the same incidents will reflect more poorly on MLS than they would on, say, the NFL.

by Tohoya on Jul 11, 2011 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions

I agree

In my case, my brother lives in Portland and is a timbers fan and I live up here and am of course a Sounder fan. It would be stupid if we couldn’t sit together during the game. Fortunately, I don’t think they would make a rule like that unless lots of bad incidents happen. So, I’m glad yesterday went off well. Good job on all sides by all the fans. I didn’t really know what to expect.

Yesterday, my brother had tixs in T Army section for both of us. I wanted to see how bad or not bad it would have been. The usher was on our side (specifically mentioning the owner), but he still said we couldn’t do it (because I was wearing a Keller jersey). Usher called his boss, she came over. My brother was angry about them not letting me in, I didn’t care. Boss woman came back 10 minutes later & gave us new tixs in 2nd row right in front of Sounder section. I was happy to be with my people, but I think it also would’ve been fun to be more mixed in with T fans too.

I would hope we don’t get so crazy like some places where I hear there is netting around the visitors group.

by Kdub747 on Jul 11, 2011 8:52 PM PDT up reply actions

I have the same thing

brother in portland that is a Timbers fan. I got to watch the game with him. I was about the only Sounder fan in the section. Had a great time. Reading Timbers blogs though it sounds like most the TA wants all away fans in a cage. Apparently they think they can not control themselves.

Scoreboards, not billboards.
Regular season, not pre-season.

by lysander on Jul 11, 2011 9:33 PM PDT up reply actions

They are trying way too hard

This is exactly the kind of non sense I was referring to above.

by B-Lot tailgater on Jul 12, 2011 7:44 AM PDT up reply actions

Timbers supporter here…

Yeah, I think it’s getting a little out of hand when folks are wanting away supporters ONLY in their section. I do believe a Timber fan does NOT belong in the ECS section, nor does a Sounder fan belong in the TA section.

I wish Stubhub and scalpers did not exist. I wish STH would NOT sell to the visitors. I wish the stadium was PACKED with the home team, and all the visitors had access to was the away supporter section, and tickets with friends and family that owned the ticket, and chose to bring their away friend or family…

As for non TA\ECS sections, visiting supporters should be allowed. I do believe a little humility is in order, and I personally do not think wearing your colors is respectful in someone elses house. That is just my opinion…

by SMP PDX on Jul 12, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions

I'll take my check now...

…for generating so much controversy (and ad revenue!)

For this match, my buddies and I had 3 criteria by which we wanted to plan our trip:
1) Go down on Saturday so we could enjoy Portland
2) Don’t drink to excess on Sunday so we could enjoy the match
3) Have good seats so we could enjoy the match

The way in which away seats were officially allocated to SGs, and the way that SGs were required by the league to handle their distribution/sale (with coordinated busing) knocked #1 and #3 down.

So sure, we could have purchased SG tickets, sat in a less than desirable section (than our preferred mid-pitch, 2nd level), and gone down/back on Sunday and still enjoyed ourselves. We just wanted a little more…

So to sum up… if more away allocation happens, I’d prefer it to be:
1) In a slightly better location to view the match
2) Available via more than just SGs so we’re not tied into the busing and thus someone else’s schedule – to be fair, I didn’t look into GFC/NES tickets, perhaps that was possible

I don’t see #1 happening, so I’m hoping at least #2 does.

In the end, we still got 3 points… and if none of this happens, I’ll still be happy to go back next year and sit where I can!

by bmvaughn on Jul 11, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Agree in intent with #2

I don’t think it has to be a SG vs non-SG distribution thing, but having an option to purchase an away ticket only (no bus) is what I was missing. Make me show up to the gate when the buses get there so we can go in as a group? Fine. Make me leave the stadium with all the other away fans? Fine. I get both of those as security precautions. And I prefer a hard segregation line between home/away fans as well.

But I refuse to take down-and-back trips so I stayed in Seattle for this one, and will for all future away matches that require a bus purchase.

by Matthew on Jul 11, 2011 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

To get around this...

…I understand the TA had a “Seattle pick-up” location. You’d get bused-in from a park & ride to stick to the MLS rules. Would have been a nice offering, but still would prefer to make it there myself without a required bus purchase. Hands were tied in this one, though, as I understood.

by bmvaughn on Jul 11, 2011 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Hard segregation is dumb

TA are going absolutely nuts that people walked around their stadium in a sounders jersey. They act as if at any moment the entire TA is just going to pounce on the guy and rip their bowels out. Do they feel they have no control? If so they perhaps THEY should not be in the stadium.

I am have been an opposing fan in stadiums and never had a problem. Do not be a dick and people generally treat you the same.

Scoreboards, not billboards.
Regular season, not pre-season.

by lysander on Jul 11, 2011 8:16 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs