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Women's World Cup Final: United States v Japan - Open Thread

Hope Solo of course gets the most attention in these parts of the ladies on the United States Women's World Cup squad. Some of that is due to her growing up in our state and playing for the Huskies, it is also because she's quite good. The other most recognizable name for Sounders fans that have only casually watched the games is Alex Morgan. One could refer to her as Servando Carrasco's girlfriend, but maybe that needs to be flipped around as she is making a great name for herself.

The USWNT is on a quest for their third World Cup title and Japan their first. Japan got to the Final by most notably beating Germany. For the USA their path is most notable for the win over Brazil with the last match against France being more expected.

TV Coverage is on ESPN, and it is being legally streamed on ESPN3.com

Game starts at 11:45 Pacific. Coverage has already begun.

This is your open thread to watch the US Women do what no other nation has done before, win a third World Cup.

Here's the US lineup;  Solo; Krieger, Rampone, Buehler, LePeilbet; O'Reilly, Boxx, Lloyd, Rapinoe; Wambach, Cheney

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Strong amount of pre-game coverage on ESPN

For all the complaints about their MLS coverage, they are doing better at covering soccer as a whole.

BTW – Montero’s header was a top 10 play yesterday

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 10:44 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

ya their coverage started before it was supposed to even

it was supposed to be sportscenter and they were doing pregame stuff. pretty cool

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

This game is going to be so awesome! =D

by Jessica Shultz on Jul 17, 2011 11:00 AM PDT reply actions  

SB Nation's Stream just updated with key players/tactics

For USA – Solo, Boxx, Wambach

For Japan – Sawa, Miyama, Sameshima

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 11:09 AM PDT reply actions  

in other news, lets go NE

id like to get ahead of phila (they have a few games in hand and could catch up)

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 11:25 AM PDT reply actions  

or a 0-0 draw

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

Already ahead of Philly

and I don’t care about that game at all compared to this one

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

me either, but just saying

yes we are ahead, but they have games in hand (4, and we are up 10 points on them)

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

i know, i just like to know we are officially ahead of teams, maybe im wierd

i hate that no one is even on games this year, its so spread out

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Like us, ifmtheir offense ever clicks they'll be pretty dangerous.

I think it might improve when Ruiz finally leaves. Addition by subtraction and all that.

by Dizzo on Jul 17, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very true.

I’d say that they’re kind of a dark horse right now. It’ll be interesting to see how trades, the transfer window, and the summer/fall in general shakes out.

by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

Martin Sheen aka Illusive Man aka President Bartlet

by agtk on Jul 17, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

It was mostly a rhetorical question ;)

It’s funny seeing Martin Sheen still holding up his respectable figure after all the Charlie furor… and that voice over made me impatient for mass effect 3 to show up.

by nimajneb on Jul 18, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just wanted to clear it up

for any who weren’t sure who it was :)

And oh man, I know I will love me some ME3. They can take their time though, only one chance to get it right.

by agtk on Jul 18, 2011 11:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

As an aside

If Brazilian Women can wear five stars over their crest due to their men’s success should the US Men wear two (maybe three after today) over theirs due to the Women?

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 11:37 AM PDT reply actions  

I think it's ridiculous that Brazil does such a thing

I don’t know why it bugs me as much as it does, but man does a bug me a lot

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 17, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree.

They need to earn their own stars. Imagine if the USMNT starting wearing stars because of the ladies. ;)

by Dizzo on Jul 17, 2011 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pia can dance if she wants to

If she leads this team so fine

She can dance, she can dance
The team can Pia da-ance

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Happy to see Rapinoe get the start

…for all the talk about utility as a late sub.

by nimajneb on Jul 17, 2011 11:46 AM PDT reply actions  

That's a hell of a way to start the match

strong run, good use of physical superiority.

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 11:47 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I don't think Pia drew that up that way

generally crosses are supposed to stay in touch

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

I love a good through ball

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 11:49 AM PDT reply actions  

I love the runs that the American women make into the box

sure they aren’t getting the crosses yet, but without them they never will

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 11:52 AM PDT reply actions  

a few too many replays there

show the game when there is a game

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

DAMN!

Should’ve scored again there. Is this the ’10 Sounders?

by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 11:57 AM PDT reply actions  

US better put a few of those close one in

Sometimes not scoring comes back to bite in the end

by Coug1990 on Jul 17, 2011 11:58 AM PDT reply actions  

not a good shot, but good moves

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 12:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Pace is slowing down

should be to Japan’s advantage

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe it isn't slowing down

another attacking wave of white

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love love love the overhead camera

I wish we had that for MLS games

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 12:10 PM PDT reply actions  

aaaaaaaaaa

come on, we need just one to go in! there has been so many chances just a few inches away!

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 12:14 PM PDT reply actions  

think we can sign her as our backup?

i think shes better then boss…

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

In all seriousness

what are regs? Is there a FIFA prohibition on mixed gender leagues (or things like CONCACAF Champions League/Team World Cup being men’s only, which would have the same end effect)? Or could MLS include women if it so chose?

by Patrick N on Jul 17, 2011 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Interesting insight on Japan's development system

And why they’re so technically good. I never really thought lack of space would play a role, but it makes a lot of sense. Very different from the US where space is abundant and young players probably play too many competitive games at the expense of technical skills.

by Dizzo on Jul 17, 2011 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

so

in the us overall, japs and pearl harbor are trending (id like to add that not in seattle is that the case) on twitter, very sad

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 12:27 PM PDT reply actions  

A large part of the reason those terms are trending

is because people are using them when they criticize the use of them

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

When will we see Morgan?

For some reason i feel like she’d have put a few of thsoe away.

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 12:44 PM PDT reply actions  

I guess now

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

wow

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Jul 17, 2011 12:51 PM PDT reply actions  

i love the continual attacking pressure

it has been a strong performance that deserves a result

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 1:03 PM PDT reply actions  

that save was class

great ball in and header

still we wait

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

truth

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

one miss doesn't mean they suck

this has been a well-called match

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh I agree

It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek

by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

What is that tooting horn?

I’ve noticed it a lot during international games. That little horn tooting sequence… about six beats? What is that and what instrument or horn does it? It goes off every 3-4 minutes.

by joesz on Jul 17, 2011 1:07 PM PDT reply actions  

the ball just sticks to Rapinoe's feet

even under heavy pressure she maintains possession so well

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

MORGAN!

Wow what a counter!

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Jul 17, 2011 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

goal!!!!!!

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:09 PM PDT reply actions  

That noise you hear?

Servando

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 1:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh god

that poor kid in the stands is hilarious!

by Patrick N on Jul 17, 2011 1:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Haha Arlo
I think Miss Morgan has earned herself a golden scarf on her next visit to Seattle to visit a certain rookie midfielder.. #USWNT

by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 1:14 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

NOOOOOO!

That was sloppy defense

by Derek R on Jul 17, 2011 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Ughhhhh

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Jul 17, 2011 1:21 PM PDT reply actions  

What a cluster

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 1:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Well

bleh have to leave i hope US wins it.

by gstommylee on Jul 17, 2011 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Added time

Is special time

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 1:31 PM PDT reply actions  

or maybe Extra Time is special?

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 1:36 PM PDT reply actions  

i may be alone in this

but i would rather announcers not say anything if they dont have anything to talk about in the game (i really dont care if BO’s kids play soccer…maybe its just me)

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

i love the deep throw

use it
win it

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

WAMBACH HEADER!

WHOOOOOOO!!!

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Jul 17, 2011 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

goallll!!!!!!

WAMBACH

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:51 PM PDT reply actions  

wheres the WSU kid at?

take your shirt off again!

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

hey, he took his shirt off, thats not my doing

i just want him to celebrate like the players do, thas all

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

holy wow

nice stuff there

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jul 17, 2011 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

she is so good with her head

my goodness, we need to sign her too

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Whoa!

Anybody else thinking that the big man up front the Sounders need might a woman named Wambach? Killer blow.

by Fnarf on Jul 17, 2011 1:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Of course, Pain Machine:
Carrasco’s a natural #SpiritAnimal. But it’s going to be awkward when he’s still wearing the cape and mask when he’s in the 18.

by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 1:57 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Alex Morgan is so lazy

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions   2 recs

hold it together girls

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

USA shoddy defense

Tired players make sloppy mistakes

by Fnarf on Jul 17, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions  

OMG

USA are going to give this away

by Fnarf on Jul 17, 2011 2:01 PM PDT reply actions  

"19th Nervous Breakdown"

Can be another track on Pia’s new album, along with “59th St. Bridge Song” and some other 6Ts pop hits. “I’m A Believer”, anyone?

by Fnarf on Jul 17, 2011 2:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Dear ladies,

STOP GIVING ME A SEIZURE

thanks

by joesz on Jul 17, 2011 2:04 PM PDT reply actions  

i love her, thank you rampone

also dont be hurt solo

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:05 PM PDT reply actions  

damn

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

Well....

Great game?

I think we’re going to PKs.

by magistermilitum on Jul 17, 2011 2:06 PM PDT reply actions  

We just needed to hold it together for 5 mins

Now lets turn this around and get another US goal

by Derek R on Jul 17, 2011 2:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Abby

please, please, please

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 2:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Pah

We had goalscorers right there but they were flat out on the pitch.

by Fnarf on Jul 17, 2011 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

i thought that was a corner

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:12 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Same

Everyone I’m watching it with was really confused

by Derek R on Jul 17, 2011 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

lets go girls, get it done!

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Some of these players

look like they’re going to have trouble getting the ball up to the goal.

by Fnarf on Jul 17, 2011 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Ugh

just nipped it with her foot.

by Fnarf on Jul 17, 2011 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

boxx had her first one saved last time too

(she was a mile off the line, but she was for all of them too)

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:17 PM PDT reply actions  

its over

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

Carly took lessons from the Sounders

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 2:18 PM PDT reply actions  

yes!!!!

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

oh my god, this is horrible

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

What'd I say?

Nobody’s making theirs

by Fnarf on Jul 17, 2011 2:19 PM PDT reply actions  

she almost had saved that one too

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Hope :(

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

thank you abby

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:20 PM PDT reply actions  

i hate this game sometimes

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

No one to blame but ourselves

but if anyone else was to win, Japan needed it.

by sdcoug09 on Jul 17, 2011 2:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Yeah.

If anybody were to win it I’m glad its Japan.

by magistermilitum on Jul 17, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

agreed

really glad it wasnt brazil after the way they played the US

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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed that Japan needed this win more than anyone else

The US played probably best game in this World Cup and lost it, but that’s how it goes in soccer sometimes. If you do not score on so many opportunities, the other team will find the way to punish you. Maybe, it is good for globalization of the game too that someone else win it (outside Germany and US). I think it is really great thing that this game was much more interesting than Brazil – Paraguay that was played at the same time.

by seattle 13 on Jul 17, 2011 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

well, shit

great story, tho

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by Jeremiah Oshan on Jul 17, 2011 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Losing to Japan doesn't feel as bad as a typical loss

If it even helps that nation a tiny bit

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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 2:22 PM PDT reply actions  

What the hell?

Is that the trophy? A 20’ diameter disco ball?

by Fnarf on Jul 17, 2011 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Choke

Congratulations to Japan, however.

by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

I wouldn't call it a choke

They left everything they had out there. There just wasn’t any left.

by Fnarf on Jul 17, 2011 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I would. I wrote it early that USA not putting the ball in the back of the net early when they absolutely dominated play in every way

would come back to bite them came true. That USA had the lead with four minutes left in the match and gave up a goal is not excusable. That they missed their first three PK’s is terrible.

They have only themselves to blame for this loss. They did choke in my opinion.

But, congratulations to Japan.

by Coug1990 on Jul 17, 2011 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree

The USA had sooo many chances that they very poorly failed to put away.

by Derek R on Jul 17, 2011 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I could ban any word or concept from sports it would be choking.

Japan beat the #1, #2 and #5 team in the knockout stage and played a hell of a game today. Missed chances aren’t ‘choking’, they’re missed chances. Penalty shootouts are always a crapshoot.

by Aaron Campeau on Jul 17, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

They're just as bad

First two were misses. Bad misses. And then a block. No one’s made one yet!

by Fnarf on Jul 17, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brazil missed them ALL!

And only one was blocked — two way over the bar, one well wide. Worst penalty display I’ve ever seen in my life. Almost looked fixed.

Now both Brazil and Argentina are OUT, and Paraguay, Uruguay, Peru, and one of Chile or Venezuela are left — VENEZUELA? That’s like Faroe Islands winning the Euros or something.

by Fnarf on Jul 17, 2011 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

chile ftw

well faroes is probably a bit extreme, given that they’re a team of plumbers and teachers etc and venezuela are actually professionals, but i get what you mean

by britsounder on Jul 17, 2011 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Venezuela is a decent team

They almost made it to the last world cup (they were two points behind Uruguay who qualified for additional play-off against Costa Rica). Yes, if they win Copa, it will be surprise, but more like Greece winning EURO 2004.

by seattle 13 on Jul 17, 2011 3:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's fun going through all these comments at once

8hrs after the game, and reading how the emotions went UP and then DOOOOOOWN. Oh well. Good game. Olympics next year?

by Lose-Lose on Jul 17, 2011 10:28 PM PDT reply actions  

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