Women's World Cup Final: United States v Japan - Open Thread
Hope Solo of course gets the most attention in these parts of the ladies on the United States Women's World Cup squad. Some of that is due to her growing up in our state and playing for the Huskies, it is also because she's quite good. The other most recognizable name for Sounders fans that have only casually watched the games is Alex Morgan. One could refer to her as Servando Carrasco's girlfriend, but maybe that needs to be flipped around as she is making a great name for herself.
The USWNT is on a quest for their third World Cup title and Japan their first. Japan got to the Final by most notably beating Germany. For the USA their path is most notable for the win over Brazil with the last match against France being more expected.
TV Coverage is on ESPN, and it is being legally streamed on ESPN3.com
Game starts at 11:45 Pacific. Coverage has already begun.
This is your open thread to watch the US Women do what no other nation has done before, win a third World Cup.
Here's the US lineup; Solo; Krieger, Rampone, Buehler, LePeilbet; O'Reilly, Boxx, Lloyd, Rapinoe; Wambach, Cheney
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Strong amount of pre-game coverage on ESPN
For all the complaints about their MLS coverage, they are doing better at covering soccer as a whole.
BTW – Montero’s header was a top 10 play yesterday
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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 10:44 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
ya their coverage started before it was supposed to even
it was supposed to be sportscenter and they were doing pregame stuff. pretty cool
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
This game is going to be so awesome! =D
by Jessica Shultz on Jul 17, 2011 11:00 AM PDT reply actions
SB Nation's Stream just updated with key players/tactics
For USA – Solo, Boxx, Wambach
For Japan – Sawa, Miyama, Sameshima
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in other news, lets go NE
id like to get ahead of phila (they have a few games in hand and could catch up)
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or a 0-0 draw
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Already ahead of Philly
and I don’t care about that game at all compared to this one
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me either, but just saying
yes we are ahead, but they have games in hand (4, and we are up 10 points on them)
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Yes but Philly is performing at their talent level
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In those four matches, they'd have to win three and tie one just to match us.
Not exactly an easy task.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions
i know, i just like to know we are officially ahead of teams, maybe im wierd
i hate that no one is even on games this year, its so spread out
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Like us, ifmtheir offense ever clicks they'll be pretty dangerous.
I think it might improve when Ruiz finally leaves. Addition by subtraction and all that.
Very true.
I’d say that they’re kind of a dark horse right now. It’ll be interesting to see how trades, the transfer window, and the summer/fall in general shakes out.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Is that the Illusive Man doing the voice over?
sorry, nerd moment.
It was mostly a rhetorical question ;)
It’s funny seeing Martin Sheen still holding up his respectable figure after all the Charlie furor… and that voice over made me impatient for mass effect 3 to show up.
Just wanted to clear it up
for any who weren’t sure who it was :)
And oh man, I know I will love me some ME3. They can take their time though, only one chance to get it right.
Whoever decided pageantry was a necessary precursor to major sporting events
Is history’s greatest criminal
by ClosetCoug on Jul 17, 2011 11:37 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
As an aside
If Brazilian Women can wear five stars over their crest due to their men’s success should the US Men wear two (maybe three after today) over theirs due to the Women?
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I think it's ridiculous that Brazil does such a thing
I don’t know why it bugs me as much as it does, but man does a bug me a lot
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 17, 2011 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions
Pia can dance if she wants to
If she leads this team so fine
She can dance, she can dance
The team can Pia da-ance
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Happy to see Rapinoe get the start
…for all the talk about utility as a late sub.
That's a hell of a way to start the match
strong run, good use of physical superiority.
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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 11:47 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I don't think Pia drew that up that way
generally crosses are supposed to stay in touch
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Theme of terrible giveaways in the midfield has continued into this match
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 11:49 AM PDT reply actions
I kinda wonder at the decision to put Cheney up front...
her work in the center midfield being what settled possession against France.
I love the runs that the American women make into the box
sure they aren’t getting the crosses yet, but without them they never will
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I wish I was as good as anything
As Ian Darke is at his job
a few too many replays there
show the game when there is a game
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DAMN!
Should’ve scored again there. Is this the ’10 Sounders?
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 11:57 AM PDT reply actions
US better put a few of those close one in
Sometimes not scoring comes back to bite in the end
Pace is slowing down
should be to Japan’s advantage
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Maybe it isn't slowing down
another attacking wave of white
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Heather O'Reilly has an interesting dribble face.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 12:10 PM PDT reply actions
i was going to say the same thing
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I love love love the overhead camera
I wish we had that for MLS games
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I hate seeing the sideboards advertise a product we can't get here
especially one that I kind of want
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I'm intrigued by Hyundai's i## line
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well, none are sold in the US at this time
I do like the Veloster.
Maybe, if things work out, it will be my next
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aaaaaaaaaa
come on, we need just one to go in! there has been so many chances just a few inches away!
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So Hope Solo is really quite good at that distribution thing
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think we can sign her as our backup?
i think shes better then boss…
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
In all seriousness
what are regs? Is there a FIFA prohibition on mixed gender leagues (or things like CONCACAF Champions League/Team World Cup being men’s only, which would have the same end effect)? Or could MLS include women if it so chose?
Interesting insight on Japan's development system
And why they’re so technically good. I never really thought lack of space would play a role, but it makes a lot of sense. Very different from the US where space is abundant and young players probably play too many competitive games at the expense of technical skills.
Can we talk about how this has been a perfectly officiated match?
by ClosetCoug on Jul 17, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm impressed with the sideline refs
They’ve made some very good non-calls that probably would have been flagged (wrongly) as off-sides in an MLS game.
there also hasnt been many controversial things happen
but ya its been really good thus far
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
but that was a good call
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Also I've never seen a ref smile as much as this one
She looks like she’s having a good old time
by Gihyou on Jul 17, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
so
in the us overall, japs and pearl harbor are trending (id like to add that not in seattle is that the case) on twitter, very sad
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yes they are
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions
A large part of the reason those terms are trending
is because people are using them when they criticize the use of them
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Whoops, 'Japs' is trending world wide, for what it's worth.
by SgtSasquatch on Jul 17, 2011 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, Twitter's stupid with trending topics anyway, as soon as one hits the list it just perpetuates itself so people will grab others attention.
As much as I love Twitter, sometimes it can just be one big circle-jerk.
by SgtSasquatch on Jul 17, 2011 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
When will we see Morgan?
For some reason i feel like she’d have put a few of thsoe away.
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You may be right
Especially with Cheney out now.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but I didn't want the injury
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And regardless of how this ends
can we please get that women a Golden Scarf next time she’s in town?
Not over Hope Solo
who has a stronger connection to the region
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She's also already been a Golden Scarf recipient, hasn't she?
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 17, 2011 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Akers has but I think that's the only USWNT player
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Nope alse French
but no Solo yet
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i love the continual attacking pressure
it has been a strong performance that deserves a result
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that save was class
great ball in and header
still we wait
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one miss doesn't mean they suck
this has been a well-called match
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Oh I agree
It was meant to be tongue-in-cheek
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions
What is that tooting horn?
I’ve noticed it a lot during international games. That little horn tooting sequence… about six beats? What is that and what instrument or horn does it? It goes off every 3-4 minutes.
the ball just sticks to Rapinoe's feet
even under heavy pressure she maintains possession so well
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That noise you hear?
Servando
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I love the shot of the 12 year old WSU cougar fan taking his shirt off.
So random.
Now with more lemon bars!
by Fear on Jul 17, 2011 1:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Oh god
that poor kid in the stands is hilarious!
yessss!!!!!
its the best
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
Haha Arlo
I think Miss Morgan has earned herself a golden scarf on her next visit to Seattle to visit a certain rookie midfielder.. #USWNT
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 1:14 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I guess it makes for better tv
#SmallBenefits
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well i'm hoping
US can score before it goes in extra time.
How do you feel about exciting victories?
by magistermilitum on Jul 17, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Jaqua would find a way to screw it up
Or Evans.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
you mean
the classic point blank shot that goes OVER the net?
or maybe Extra Time is special?
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Same old, same old.
We’re used to this.
by magistermilitum on Jul 17, 2011 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions
surface seems to have some issues
lots of slipping
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i think hes referring to how they cancelled the game in van yesterday because of the pitch
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
yep, sepp requested it be closed for the ceremonies
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions
i may be alone in this
but i would rather announcers not say anything if they dont have anything to talk about in the game (i really dont care if BO’s kids play soccer…maybe its just me)
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i love the deep throw
use it
win it
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wheres the WSU kid at?
take your shirt off again!
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Chris Hansen is keeping his eye on you
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
hey, he took his shirt off, thats not my doing
i just want him to celebrate like the players do, thas all
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions
holy wow
nice stuff there
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she is so good with her head
my goodness, we need to sign her too
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im fine with that
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
And two subs to help kill time
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but wisely, dont put people who cant take pks in, and dont take your pk takers out
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Whoa!
Anybody else thinking that the big man up front the Sounders need might a woman named Wambach? Killer blow.
too little, too late
i needed that goal in normal time, lost a few quid on this :(
you shouldnt have gone to the casinoe, but if you did, put your money on rapinoe
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course, Pain Machine:
Carrasco’s a natural #SpiritAnimal. But it’s going to be awkward when he’s still wearing the cape and mask when he’s in the 18.
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 1:57 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Alex Morgan is so lazy
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by Dave Clark on Jul 17, 2011 1:58 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
ive trained myself to ignore her and only listen to ian darke
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions
"19th Nervous Breakdown"
Can be another track on Pia’s new album, along with “59th St. Bridge Song” and some other 6Ts pop hits. “I’m A Believer”, anyone?
Pardon me Tobin, but you can't dribble straight through the oppossition
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Well....
Great game?
I think we’re going to PKs.
by magistermilitum on Jul 17, 2011 2:06 PM PDT reply actions
as a neutral, this has been exciting
unlike brazil on the other channel….rubbish
well i know it was
but i mean its late in the game
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions
its gonna go to pks like straight after the kick
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Denying of a goal-scoring opportunity is always a straight red
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
thanks bud, I know the rules
I am just saying that the card is pretty much pointless
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Unless the person that received the red is one of the normal PK takers
by wyte_lightning on Jul 17, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
true
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
i thought that was a corner
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:12 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
oh ok
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions
A certain Prince song is going to get a ton of play on radio tomorrow with a win
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boxx had her first one saved last time too
(she was a mile off the line, but she was for all of them too)
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Carly took lessons from the Sounders
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That's what having the best keeper in the world does
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No one to blame but ourselves
but if anyone else was to win, Japan needed it.
Yeah.
If anybody were to win it I’m glad its Japan.
by magistermilitum on Jul 17, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
agreed
really glad it wasnt brazil after the way they played the US
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by kelliott1527 on Jul 17, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Agreed that Japan needed this win more than anyone else
The US played probably best game in this World Cup and lost it, but that’s how it goes in soccer sometimes. If you do not score on so many opportunities, the other team will find the way to punish you. Maybe, it is good for globalization of the game too that someone else win it (outside Germany and US). I think it is really great thing that this game was much more interesting than Brazil – Paraguay that was played at the same time.
well, shit
great story, tho
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Losing to Japan doesn't feel as bad as a typical loss
If it even helps that nation a tiny bit
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I would. I wrote it early that USA not putting the ball in the back of the net early when they absolutely dominated play in every way
would come back to bite them came true. That USA had the lead with four minutes left in the match and gave up a goal is not excusable. That they missed their first three PK’s is terrible.
They have only themselves to blame for this loss. They did choke in my opinion.
But, congratulations to Japan.
If I could ban any word or concept from sports it would be choking.
Japan beat the #1, #2 and #5 team in the knockout stage and played a hell of a game today. Missed chances aren’t ‘choking’, they’re missed chances. Penalty shootouts are always a crapshoot.
by Aaron Campeau on Jul 17, 2011 3:30 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Brazil missed them ALL!
And only one was blocked — two way over the bar, one well wide. Worst penalty display I’ve ever seen in my life. Almost looked fixed.
Now both Brazil and Argentina are OUT, and Paraguay, Uruguay, Peru, and one of Chile or Venezuela are left — VENEZUELA? That’s like Faroe Islands winning the Euros or something.
chile ftw
well faroes is probably a bit extreme, given that they’re a team of plumbers and teachers etc and venezuela are actually professionals, but i get what you mean
Venezuela is a decent team
They almost made it to the last world cup (they were two points behind Uruguay who qualified for additional play-off against Costa Rica). Yes, if they win Copa, it will be surprise, but more like Greece winning EURO 2004.
It's fun going through all these comments at once
8hrs after the game, and reading how the emotions went UP and then DOOOOOOWN. Oh well. Good game. Olympics next year?

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