Women's World Cup TV Ratings Explode - Mean Nothing For Club Game
No, the United States Women didn't win the World Cup in Germany over the weekend, but they did win the battle of compelling television. With marketable names, extensive ESPN coverage and America's love of great sports stories they managed to pull in an 8.6 overnight rating. Frankly that is amazing.
The MLB All-Star Game had a 6.9
The Open for golf had a 2.6
The last World Series for baseball had an 8.4 average
Hooray soccer?
Yes and no. Soccer, specifically World Cup soccer for both genders is very popular in the United States for some time. We are a nation of nationalists. People will watch snowboarding every four years if an American is involved. They do the same for the 100m sprints. They'll even watch the America's Cup sailing events. All of those are quite like soccer in the USA.
For television people are not watching their local clubs, in fact they aren't really watching the best either as the UEFA Champions League Final drew less than a 2.0 rating even though it featured the best team on the planet.
Please, everyone, stop looking for a magic pill, or a true sign. Soccer in America continues to grow. But there will not be a single moment that changes everything. WPS is still on shaky ground, despite so many of the world's best playing here. Will this World Cup help? Probably. Will it solve the problems haunting the league? Almost certainly not.
Sunday was an amazing day for our sport. It will be a long time before we find out if it had any lasting impact for any version of the club game.
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I think generally speaking you’re right, but it’s pretty rare to get a match with that much drama. I’ve talked to a lot of people who watched and said to me “are exciting games like this common?” How many converts will that make? Who knows. I just remember that I went through a similar thing about 17 years ago,
The USA Men had drama
remember the goal against Algeria?
MLS TV ratings – flat.
How often do you see an awesome Olympic event and then start paying attention to the sport for the other 3 years?
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True
But it also wasn’t a final. And while I get the reason for mentioning it, I don’t think the Olympic comparison is a good one unless we’re willing to say that soccer is as interesting as curling or track and field. I don’t think that’s even remotely true, then again I’m a soccer fan. :)
I’d also say that Olympic basketball is at least in part the reason for the game’s success in Europe where it’s very popular. Perhaps 2nd most popular in some regions.
Indeed.
The other thing to remember about the Olympics is that they edit and human-interest the crap out of those events. The World Cup is presented much more straightforwardly as sport, and with only one sport in the spotlight.
And the ‘four years’ thing isn’t 100% true, either, if Men’s soccer gets a big rating in 2010 and then Women’s does in 2011. And if the Women make the late rounds of the Olympics, chances are people will watch that in 2012.
And for what it’s worth a surprising number of people watched the Gold Cup Final (just under 1M on FSC and 8M on Univision).
'Gentlemen' he said,
'I don't need your organization,
I've shined your shoes,
moved your mountains and marked your cards,
but Eden is burning.
Either get ready for elimination,
or else your heart must have the courage,
for the changing of the guards.'
Also another National Event
Not a club event.
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As a counterpoint, how many of us started following soccer after one world cup or another?
No, soccer isn’t going to become as popular as football because we were in a world cup final. But a few people will watch it and enjoy the game on its own merits, not just because national pride is at stake. These people are more likely to watch on TV or check out their local clubs.
That was my experience with the 2010 WC, anyway. I imagine that’s the story for a lot of people around 2002, as well. Why can’t it be true of the 2011 WWC?
There was no bump in TV ratings nor gate from the 2010 World Cup
This is a long haul, it is going to take years
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I like your point
I started seriously following soccer after the 2009 Confederations Cup and haven’t looked back since, now being a fan of all things soccer.
The big national events are the type that help the average sports fan learn and appreciate the subtleties of the game that big fans will see in a 0-0 draw.
by I need more Esteban on Jul 18, 2011 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions
I did think it was a bit of a shame that...
…both Ian Darke and Julie Foudy rarely mentioned the clubs they women played for while the match was going on. Every time I watch an Arsenal match, Darke or Tyler or whoever’s commentating always refers to RvP as "the former Feyenoord man.
Similarly, during the Men’s WC, you couldn’t get through any match without Harkes talking about how amazing Essien (despite not playing in the WC) had been for Chelsea, etc. etc. It seemed like a great opportunity for people to be introduced to Sky Blue and the MagicJack and all the rest.
Not that it would have made a huge difference in tv ratings...
…but it can’t hurt to get those names on peoples’ radars
A bit off base
Between the semifinal and final, Darke & Foudy had mentioned just about each USWNT player’s WPS team at least once. I know because I was wondering myself ;)
by ABTsportsline on Jul 18, 2011 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess I meant more with the foreign players
Doesn’t Marta (god herself, apparenly) play in the WPS? I couldn’t tell you what team, and I watched almost every match, albeit not super intently. Same with the Canadian players.
They would on occasion
They talked about Marta and the WPS quite a bit when the US played Brazil, and even did a mini-feature on how Hope Solo and her respect each other when they play in WPS but they are not friends.
I get your point though – they didn’t do a whole lot to promote WPS.
by ABTsportsline on Jul 18, 2011 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions
though it makes sense--in regards to business--that they didn't...
…because the games were on espn and WPS is on FSC. no free advertising.
Well if you want to know what team Marta is on...
it’s the same as Alex Morgan which is the Western New York Flash :D
but I understand your point. I wonder how many teams will fold this offseason >.<
by majora999 on Jul 18, 2011 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Agree with your premise, Dave
It’s not just the nationalism that makes me watch, if I’ll be honest. It’s the stage as well. Put those two together and I’m watching.
Women’s soccer is thrilling at this level, but watching WPS play makes me want to gouge my eyes out.
These things take generations
Think about how many people are still going to their first MLS games – and how many more still have to. It takes years of people building relationships with a team and passing it down to children before any sport gets the type of TV attention of the sports we tend to compare to.
Right now, it’s just nice to hear a growing number of people defending MLS instead of people who have never watched a game claiming it’s subpar and, therefore, not worth watching.
I agree with this wholeheartedly
I’m a fan of the Mariners and the Seahawks because my father was. I’m a fan of the Sounders because I love soccer-football, I love Seattle, and this is our team.
Will there ever be a monumental shift of the casual sports fan to follow and support their local MLS team within the next few years? Depends what happens with the NFL and NBA, but I think we really won’t see it until this next generation of fans, where our children will be fans of the Sounders because we were.
by Jackington on Jul 18, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Hate to be nitpicky
But I think you meant the MLB All-Star game had a 6.9 rating. If not, my oversight.
It's like I'm programmed to type MLS all the time
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by Dave Clark on Jul 18, 2011 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No worries
I just like Selig and his blunders to be disparaged at every possible opportunity. The MLB All-Star game is a joke.
On this note,
The Sounders Women are playing in the W-League semi finals at the end of this month.
Thanks for the reminder.
My daughter asked if there was a sounders women team this weekend while watching the world cup game with her. I said yes but knew nothing more. I promised to take her to a game and need to figure out when now.
Unfortunately, I agree that it will have little impact...
…for two reasons:
1) First, as you noted, a lot of the interest came from a purely nationalistic slant. People love to shout “U.S.A.! U.S.A.!” for any event in which Our Boys (or Girls) have a chance of beating the world…and especially so in sports where other countries are typically considered superior. Remember the fanatical interest in the 1972 Fischer-Spassky chess championship? Did that have any real impact on American interest in chess once we’d taken the title from the Commies? Likewise, if you get any U.S. team having a chance to win in a sport where we’re not supposed to do well — hockey, curling, probably even tiddly-winks — national interest will soar, only to flame out once Our Country has either lifted the trophy or gone down ignominiously to defeat.
2) Second, much of the coverage of both this and last year’s World Cups had a decidedly backhand tone when it came to soccer here. As in 1995 and 1999, the successes of the WNT were treated as more of a demonstration of “Grrl Power” than of the pleasures of The Beautiful Game. When you get a steady diet of stories with headlines like “For U.S. Soccer, It’s A Woman’s World,” the main point of the story is going to be that “our women are successful while our men are not,” which will do nothing to get people out to watch MLS and other men’s leagues, which still make up the large majority of professional soccer in this country — in fact, it may do just the opposite. Similarly, during last year’s tournament in South Africa, much of the coverage had a subtext (as stated outright by an announcer on KJR) of “look, ignore the MLS — it sucks! — but our World Cup team is really worth watching.” Once again, something that promotes watching a certain event, but that does so in a dismissive manner toward U.S. soccer as a whole. That may do wonders to gin up viewership for a specific televised match or tournament, but little or nothing to build interest in homegrown soccer here.
One of the metaphors I use quite often is that of college football
Boise doesn’t have the best college football program in the nation, but the supported it, and it became damn good. Fresno at times. TCU. Marshall.
If you support the local version of the game it can become great.
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by Dave Clark on Jul 18, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So....whats the goal?
Everyone talks about getting soccer big in America. We have MLS on fairly solid footing, soccer specific stadiums popping up, smash hit markets in Seattle, Philly and Portland being added to the league, some of the world’s finest clubs regularly touring here, and the UEFA Champions League Final shown on network tv.
Is it the NFL? No, but MLS is still young and becoming established. Soccer has developed a following, a growing following at that. At what point do we stop saying “are we there yet?” about soccer and start saying “look at what we’ve done.”
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WPS match tonight allegedly sold north of 30k tickets
a record for a WPS match, apparently. Good for them. Ride that WWC wave!

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