The Ramifications of a 7-0 Friendly Loss
The Sounders were on the bad end of a painful 7-0 result against Manchester United on Wednesday. Sigi called it his "most embarrassing loss, personally." The starting side did well enough, limiting the score to 1-0 at half, but as we all know, the reserves came in for the second half and got to face Wayne Rooney and Park Ji-Sung. We know what happened from there. At the end, the teams were sporting and traded jerseys, with Taylor Graham somehow picking up Rooney's, possibly as compensation for the easy hat trick. This we all know. Now, the morning after, we've had a night to mull it over and discuss what happens next.
Does this affect the Sounders confidence and impact their current run of form?
People think that the team may be shaken by this friendly loss. To be honest, it's not something that any of us can be sure about until we see the next few games. Personally, I don't believe it will. If anything, I think after seeing everything plus the kitchen sink against MUFC, they'd find the next few games a little simpler. The defense is obviously the concern, but I would expect a Riley/Parke/Ianni/Gonzalez back four in Panama (unless Hurtado is up to play, then Parke/Hurtado). And that group didn't do too poorly last night. Again, can't tell for sure, but judging by the backbone this team has shown against adversity so far this year, I'll choose to believe in them. I think Sigi will address it and make everyone focus in on what went wrong and do some good practice work after this "embarrassing loss."
I think what this loss really affects is the ego and confidence of the fans. Our team got blasted, and a lot of us are taking it hard. Fandom is an emotional thing. There is a connection; that's why you follow the team and revel in their victories. You also wallow in their losses, and for a particularly bad one like this, you hurt. The Sounders were riding high. It felt great. People were confident they could take on all comers. I felt like we had a good chance to put up a good showing last night. Not a win, but perhaps a 2-2 draw or 3-2 loss. I'm willing to wager that a lot of fans felt the same way. So to see 7-0 is a blow to your fandom. It's like your pride taking a long, Wile E. Coyote fall off a cliff. Sure. But that's different than a blow to the team. They're pros. The result didn't count. They should bounce back. If for some reason they don't bounce back, then that's a bigger problem that is only exposed by this loss, not caused by it. I think they've got the backbone. They took a licking, and they should keep on ticking.
Does this tarnish the Sounders brand or MLS as a league?
I'd say for some, maybe. But I also don't think that those people's minds would have changed anyway. KC beat Manchester United last year, and that probably surprised some people, but it's still pre-season for the Premier League, so they can explain it away easily enough. The MLS isn't a top league, and everybody knows that. They obviously don't have the depth of the top leagues. But I think those that were watching closely should have been impressed with what the Sounders did in the first 45 minutes. They looked dangerous. They attacked. They went in down 1-0 versus one of the best teams in the world. Yes, it fell apart from there, but the style of play from the Sounders probably wasn't what people that haven't watched MLS lately remember. It was much more attractive. Even the keeper for MUFC, Andres Lindegaard, said so: "They like to play football, not like kick and rush which I would have expected when I came to the States."
The bigger narrative that may emerge from this is the continuing emergence of the MLS fanbase. It was 67k for a friendly, but with a majority supporting the home team. A couple United players were impressed by the home support, with Ryan Giggs even saying the rumors were correct that Sounders FC had the best fans in the States. Along with the good work being done by our Cascadia enemies and the increasing attendance overall in MLS, it does show that more and more people are seeing something they like. There likely will never be a tipping point where the USA suddenly becomes crazy about soccer over all other sports, but the growth of the league has been impressive and shows signs of continuing. It takes years. It's long-term. But the trend is in the right direction.
So, what are you trying to say with this meandering wall of text extracted from your jumbled thoughts?
I really wanted the Sounders to do well against Manchester United. I didn't expect a win, but I was hoping for a goal or two. It sucks that it didn't happen, and it sucks that the result was as lopsided as it was. As a fan, I don't like it. It felt bad. But it shouldn't change how the Sounders are playing. I still feel like we're going to beat the rest of the league into submission. I feel like we can have a good shot the Supporters Shield. I feel like (clap, clap, clap clap clap) we're going to win the U.S. Open Cup. I feel like we're going to get past the group stages of the CONCACAF Champions League this year. I feel like an MLS Cup run is very possible. I bet the team feels the same. I hope you do, too.
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My hope
is this serves as a wake-up we didnt necessarily need. I’ve been on teams that have gotten complacent when they’re winning, expecting to win simply because thats what has been happening. We’re a very good team, but we can’t coast and I hope this reminds all of them of that.
Nos audietis in somniis
Nos audietis in altum
by Seattle Coug on Jul 21, 2011 12:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes, I think that is something I wanted to say and forgot, so thank you.
A wake-up call in a friendly that has no bearing on standings is preferable to a wake-up call in the form of a loss in the U.S. Open Cup or a knockout of the prelim. round of the Champions League.
by Greg Pirkl Lives on Jul 21, 2011 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
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Those are the ramifications for losing a friendly. Nil. Zip. Zilch. Nada.
Nobody got hurt = we win.
Great that we have a deep midfield
It’s poor because its persistent injuries that caused him to lose his starting spot and continuously interrupts his return to good form.
Well done
You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.
Because it's annoying me that this post has seven comments and seven recs.
The Next Generation of the KC
by s0merand0mdude on Jul 22, 2011 12:00 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
"It felt bad."
That’s it. I’m not sure it’s necessary to complicate it further than that. A bunch of people spent $50-$120 bucks a ticket and went home feeling bad. Is that something they might want to do again next year? That’s not a very good business decision from the FO’s perspective and it’s not an improvement in the experience of being a Sounders fan from the team perspective.
Oddly, this might be the only market in MLS where ia 7-0 loss would have significant ramifications, because it might be the only market where Manchester United fans (who I assume went home happy) were outnumbered by fans of the home team.
Nos Audietis
We Seattleites
are also really good at navel-gazing.
You will hear us on Brougham, you will hear us on Occidental, you will hear us on King. We are all around you, there is no escape.
by 108Ultra on Jul 22, 2011 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Ooh, look at that!
Nevermind, lint
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Sounder At Heart
by Dave Clark on Jul 22, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This game is simply exhibit A in the MLS sucks attack.
I watched SportsCenter on Saturday night. They showed highlights of Man U vs. Chicago Fire and the Union v. Real Madrid games. Note that when I say highlights I mean they showed the Man U and Real Madrid goals and neither of the goals scored by MLS teams.
Then they showed a graphic detailing how poorly MLS teams have fared in the World Football Challenge, showing wins vs. losses and goals for and against.
Then the announcer said, (paraphrasing) “and that graphic doesn’t even include last week’s 7 nothing trouncing of the Seattle Sounders by Manchester United.”
And that’s all people take away from the game. MLS sucks and Sounders got killed. No one cares that it was our reserves. No one cares that we played well in the first half. It was yet another example European superiority. And this was the national mainstream sports media’s take on the game.
Did anything change when KC beat United last year?
No?
Ok, so it doesn’t really matter how Seattle did.
I am not a Supporter | I am not a Fan | I am a Sounder
Sounder At Heart
I just don't get
how/why ESPN continually bashes a sport they should be trying to promote.


















