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CONCACAF Champions League Set - Strength of Schedule

With Toronto FC winning the Voyageurs Cup yesterday after their victory over struggling Vancouver Whitecaps FC the CONCACAF Champions League 2011-2012 competition is finally set. While it has been known for sometime that the Seattle Sounders would face San Fransisco FC of Panama for some time (season ticket holders currently able to buy seats, public on July 6th), the full slate of teams let's us play with some math and figure out which MLS side has the most difficult road out of the Group Stage.

Using the coefficients from Soccermetrics we can estimate the strength of schedule. Last year using this method it showed that Seattle had the hardest road out of the Groups of any MLS team, and was in the Group of Death. There are a few tweaks to the methodology this year in order to improve things a bit. First, for any team that has no coefficient due to lack of entry in the last five seasons their national coefficient was used a place holder as an rough representation of their qualification over other teams from their league. Second, is the inclusion of strength of schedule if favorites advance past the Preliminary Round in every circumstance, because honest the FMF teams are going to advance. For teams in the Prelims their opposition in that round and the Groups are included, because they have to win to make the Groups.

Here's the MLS teams only. Note that the Sounders have the most difficult path by average of other prelims, but not by favorites advancing. If favorites advance they have the second toughest route after the Colorado Rapids who are in the same group as Santos Laguna and the Puerto Rico Islanders. The Los Angeles Galaxy have the easiest path as Morelia of Mexico has not appeared in the tourney yet, but if Morelia is an average FMF side in this tourney it is actually Toronto FC that has the easiest path by both measures. Group B is this year's Group of Death.

 

MLS Team Str of Schedule If Favored
Seattle Sounders 96.252 100.689
FC Dallas 90.595 97.251
Toronto FC 85.702 87.464
Colorado Rapids 84.939 117.876
LA Galaxy 36.488 47.863

After the break is all data by Group.

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Group A Coeffecient Str of Schedule If Favored
Los Angeles Galaxy 15.500 36.488 47.863
Alajuelense (CRC) 9.875 42.113 53.488
Motagua 14.813 55.238 63.363
Municiapl 21.313 48.738 56.863
Morelia 16.675 43.863 47.113
Tempete 0.425 60.113 63.363
47.759 55.342
Group B
Colorado Rapids 6.900 84.939 117.876
Real Espana (HON) 17.813 74.026 106.963
Santos Laguna 63.688 74.401 89.901
Olimpia 28.813 109.276 124.776
Metapan 5.375 107.339 124.776
Puerto Rico Islanders 36.375 76.339 93.776
87.720 109.678
Group C
UNAM 65.688 26.670 35.088
Tauro (PAN) 14.813 77.545 85.963
Alianza 3.375 94.120 100.776
FC Dallas 6.900 90.595 97.251
Toronto FC 13.375 85.702 87.464
Real Esteli 0.063 99.014 100.776
78.941 84.553
Group D
Monterrey 64.688 34.907 42.688
Comunicaciones (GUA) 16.313 83.282 91.063
San Fransisco FC 10.813 102.939 107.376
Seattle Sounders 17.500 96.252 100.689
Herediano 8.875 95.158 98.501
Alpha United 0.000 104.033 107.376
86.095 91.282

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Any primer available

For what each stat means? Would love to understand this for myself, but can’t really. And googling “if favored” isn’t really what I’m looking for.

by bmvaughn on Jul 3, 2011 9:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Sorry, sometimes I forget that not everyone has read last year's same post

Str of Schedule uses the average of the Prelim opponents as in a two-leg series upsets can happen, then totals those teams assured of being in the Groups

If Favored uses the totals of the favored Prelim teams in each pairing and then adds that to those already in the Group Stage.

Both methods increase the difficulty of the Prelim teams much more than those not in Prelims, which is both intuitive and accurate.

Soccermetrics used the same system that UEFA uses for their regional competitions, but applies it to our region.

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by Dave Clark on Jul 3, 2011 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Here's just the Group Averages

Group A 47.759 55.342
Group B 87.720 109.678
Group C 78.941 84.553
Group D 86.095 91.282

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by Dave Clark on Jul 3, 2011 10:07 AM PDT reply actions  

reference to the tickets

You mentioned that season ticket holders can buy their own seats right now. Last year I remember the seats for the Champions League matches were fairly inexpensive. I logged on to get our three seats and the price was $150.00. This is more than the regular price of our tickets. Any word on the ticketing strategy for this game. I am wondering if I should wait until they go on sale to the public and then the seats might be much cheaper. As for the groups. At least our guys have already experienced Monterey.

by Camnehem on Jul 3, 2011 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Look at it a bit more closely

I think the deadline for reserving your Prelim tickets was Thursday. Right now the invoices are for all 3 group stage matches, once we make it. So I think $150.00 should reflect the price for 9 tickets.

by agtk on Jul 3, 2011 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

A possible alternative

Last year as a STH I ignored the early purchase option & bought tickets on a walk-up basis. Never was a problem; bought the lowest priced tickets and sat wherever I wanted. I can’t guarantee that’ll happen again (attendance being impossible to forecast), but I’ll be doing it again, at least during the Group Stage.

by wmknickers on Jul 3, 2011 3:16 PM PDT reply actions  

CONCACAF Champions League -- Group Stage Qualification

So, random question I thought someone on this board might be able to answer. I know that the following 8 teams are directly placed into the Group Stage:

(1) U.S. Team — MLS Cup Champion
(2) U.S. Team — MLS Supporters’ Shield Champion
(3) Mexican Team — Apertura Champion
(4) Mexican Team — Clausura Champion
(5) Costa Rican Team — ?
(6) El Salvadorian Team — ?
(7) Guatemalan Team — ?
(8) Honduran Team — ?

Does anyone know how each team from Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras are chosen to enter directly into the group stage? Is it by regular season record?

by 3NU on Jul 7, 2011 9:58 AM PDT reply actions  

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